View Full Version : If you were to nominate ten people for modship, who would they be and why?
iironiic
08-11-2011, 12:26 PM
Interesting question I've thought about and I just want to see the community's response. This is not the place to flame others for their choices and this isn't an attempt to rid unworthy mods. It's simply a question that I honestly want to know your answer.
Personally, I haven't decided yet, so I'll post once I give more thought about it.
Duplica
08-11-2011, 12:28 PM
people who are active not only within the community but with the game as well
10 patashus
Xx{Midnight}xX
08-11-2011, 12:29 PM
Good idea Wilson, will post mine in a bit.
edit: I can only think of like 9
Sky Kitten - Kind non bull shit kinda of mod.
Hammy - Does what he's supposed to be doing
Rebirth - He was a mod in the past who got perma'd for trying to get the batch working ect. I think he was a good mod before hand.
Psychoangel - Good current mod.
Halogen - Reasonable guy can be talked to about bans and the like very reasonably no matter what.
KidMerkury - Good current mod.
Jenova - Space filler. Personally Don't care tbh.
Kagome - See JS
Darkshark - He's Darkshark. He knows what up.
PS: This is assuming all the current mods at the time would be demodded were they not on this list.
MrGiggles
08-11-2011, 12:31 PM
myself because i'm not a complete idiot 8)
and maybe NFD because oh my god that would end in hilarious drama
spots 3-10 go to fictional characters like Kvothe
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 12:35 PM
GG_Guru, Andrew Mitchell, Mans0n, xBBX Takedown, Syhto, The Creeper, Phynx, Aldentron, Secks69, Dossar
phe0nixblade
08-11-2011, 12:35 PM
i'd nominate you, giggles
so heres my list
giggles
me (ya know, cause im awesome and shit)
idk some stepfile authors and shit after that i guess
MasterOfTheTaco
08-11-2011, 12:40 PM
Taco for prez
iironiic
08-11-2011, 12:43 PM
More serious answers please >.>
Good to have a laugh every now and then but I'd like to see more serious answers haha.
Also, I want to know why as well.
Yuyuko-sama
08-11-2011, 12:45 PM
people who are active not only within the community but with the game as well
10 patashus
doubling this
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 12:46 PM
1. qqwref - very intelligent, reasonable, and forgiving - I'm surprised he isn't an ADMIN.
2. i love you - One of the nicest people on this site and one of the nicest I've seen ever. He has a good sense of humor and is very tolerant.
3. samurai7694 - Basically the same as i love you.
4. icontrolyourworld - He's a moderator on SMO, and he's been very nice and fair.
5. XXXsmittyXXX - He's been around FFR for a long time and he's a chill dude. He's nice to talk to and would definitely be lenient with his actions so the bans aren't apeshit stupid rofl.
6. iironiic - Great guy. He puts a lot of consideration into his actions, and he's very nice.
7. Patashu - Forgot about this guy haha. I've seen his posts and he's very reasonable and fair. He's even a mod on ThirdStyle if I recall correctly.
8. Sky Kitten - Chat mod on DF and she's very nice - a nice attitude along with moderating experience would make her a good person for this position.
9. HammyMcSquirrel - I will agree he went way too harsh a good amount of times, but he actually *was* doing his job. He was active, but a bit hasty in banning too much. If he just slowed down a little more and gave more warnings beforehand, he'd be a great mod.
10. psychoangel691 - Already a mod but she's the one forum moderator I trust the most. She was the one who came in and dealt with the Cosplay thread and whoever was worthy of punishment - very fair and compassionate as well as active.
There's my top ten 8D
nuclearsamurai
08-11-2011, 12:48 PM
myself because i'm not a complete idiot 8)
I second this. I'll return to this post with nine other serious answers, brb thinking, also I'm posting from a dealership at the moment.
euphoriakisses
08-11-2011, 12:48 PM
6. iironiic - Great guy. He puts a lot of consideration into his actions, and he's very nice.
^ This.
DarkbearX
08-11-2011, 12:49 PM
Anyone who'd use their mod powers to do anything but moderate. Tough choices.
Duplica
08-11-2011, 12:52 PM
reasoning:
To my eyes, a moderator should not only be active within the community itself, but also whatever activity the community participates in. In FFR's case, the FFR game itself. A great moderator would be very implicated within the game and would be constantly contributing whether it be judging or stepping files, etc. This person has to be a favorite within the community. Of course it's impossible to get everyone's vote, but look at aperson. Has tons of respect.
From what I've seen in people, this would be my top 5 in no particular order and disregarding the fact that they may or may not be mods of something already:
Patashu
bmah
wc
halogen
jx
dream team right here.
Cold Kitten
08-11-2011, 12:55 PM
AJ -- Who wouldn't see AJ as a good mod? He's been around awhile, very nice, and as far as I can tell, I highly doubt he'd go powercrazy.
Dossar -- One of the most well-known people on this site. I personally just think he'd make a good mod.
Shikari -- One of the nicest people I have ever met. And I don't like most people, so this is saying something. He's considerate, thinks about his actions, and wouldn't go powercrazy.
darkshark --Intelligent, not-an-idiot (yay redundancy). Would make a good mod, imo.
samurai7694 -- He's been around awhile, one of the best known people on the site, nice, considerate, thinks about what he does before he does it. Would be able to handle mod powers without over using them.
Sky Kitten -- nicest. person. ever. would make a WONDERFUL mod.
bmah -- As far as I can tell, intelligent, nice, thinks through things, been on the site awhile. could handle mod-ship.
MrGiggles -- Intelligent, nice. considerate, etc, etc.
iironiic -- One of the greatest people I've met on this site, to date. He would NEVER overuse his powers, and could handle the pressure of being a mod.
and myself (cause I can't think of anyone else.) -- I'm not an idiot? I dunno. I don't want to say too much here because ~egotistical~
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 12:59 PM
I've actually been wondering how psychoangel691 (Kayla) is a moderator while Halogen (AJ) isn't. I've heard that it's due to "anger issues", but I could be wrong.
One Winged Angel
08-11-2011, 01:00 PM
Halo should've been a mod a loooooooooooooooooong time ago
iironiic
08-11-2011, 01:06 PM
Oops I should've made it clear in the OP but:
This is under the assumption that all current mods are demodded.
If you want to change your answer, go ahead. Maybe this will make choosing easier.
Aperson, sprite, devonin. Nobody else should have any kind of priveleges around here.
Elite Ninja
08-11-2011, 01:17 PM
My current list (still thinking about it):
Sky Kitten
Psychoangel
Halogen
iironiic
Hammy
bmah
qqwref
darkshark
i love you
samurai7694
Note: not listed in any order.
bassCannon
08-11-2011, 01:18 PM
Sprite, aperson, Velo, Zag
Basically, the bare backbones of the FFR site in itself -
maybe halogen & jimerax a few others to take care of batches & permissions
leonid
08-11-2011, 01:19 PM
Synthlight
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 01:20 PM
Izzy, those are admins, not moderators.
iironiic is talking about moderators.
bassCannon
08-11-2011, 01:22 PM
Izzy, those are admins, not moderators.
iironiic is talking about moderators.
i think this is what izzy said
"Nobody else should have any kind of priveleges around here."
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 01:24 PM
So in other words you have zero profile moderators, zero chat moderators, and zero forum moderators
And then 3 admins to do all that shit at once
Superfreak04
08-11-2011, 01:25 PM
So in other words you have zero profile moderators, zero chat moderators, and zero forum moderators
And then 3 admins to do all that shit at once
If you're like me, and can multi-task, then you're able to do that with ease.
/ego
:3
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 01:25 PM
Yeah well from the current administrators that would result in a disaster - they aren't on enough to do all of that and whatever else they have to do, and if there were no forum mods, that Cosplay thread would STILL be alive. The only active admin I saw yesterday was Sprite- and he didn't come until much later.
bassCannon
08-11-2011, 01:27 PM
last time i recall i don't remember anybody else other than aperson/Sprite handing out punishments accordingly
and prochat mods? i heard those don't exist or are never on prochat
profile mods? lol please
okay maybe a few forum mods, but that's all i can think of
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 01:30 PM
What are you talking about
Kayla is a forum mod and she handed out punishments accordingly (look at the bans), and prochat mods are on prochat everytime I go on (they might not be on 24/7 but they *do* go there).
I can't tell if you're trolling or not
Now if you're talking about "punishment" in the sense of demodding someone, then yes, only the admins can do that.
I've been to a forum with only the admin as the person watching over the community, and yes, the results are indeed disastrous.
edit: I don't have a list in mind right now, but I think TC_Halogen would be a great mod. Yeah, there are a few occasions of outbursts, but no one is perfect.
Keisha_Fabo
08-11-2011, 01:34 PM
bluexoon wasn't that bad
Sprite-
08-11-2011, 01:42 PM
Yeah well from the current administrators that would result in a disaster - they aren't on enough to do all of that and whatever else they have to do, and if there were no forum mods, that Cosplay thread would STILL be alive. The only active admin I saw yesterday was Sprite- and he didn't come until much later.
Most of the administrators have jobs and unfortunately cannot be on the site all the time. I wish I could, but it's not possible. Obviously, if there were no mods, there would be disaster.
Keisha_Fabo
08-11-2011, 01:42 PM
People also have to realize that modding is volunteer work for the love of the community
this is why mods need to be coul
Bluearrowll
08-11-2011, 01:54 PM
My stars go out to anyone who can put time into the site and knows how to separate bull shit from chat facilitation. Everyone in the below list in no particular order is someone who I could see doing a fine job.
-iironiic
-sky kitten
-customstuff
-tc_halogen
-psychoangel691
-leonid
-bmah
-bluearrowll
-xayphon
-i love you
-_.spitfire._
I included 11 because I inserted myself in there. I count as 0.
NekoGon
08-11-2011, 01:58 PM
leonid for president
Superfreak04
08-11-2011, 02:04 PM
leonid for president
+1
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 02:06 PM
I'm a mod over on Kongregate and I can tell you this: Doing your job will piss people off. Not doing your job will piss people off. Modding is a thankless job.
But I do it because there's nothing more satisfying than silencing morons who clog up your chat
Izzy, those are admins, not moderators.
iironiic is talking about moderators.
I understand that. I don't feel like we should need so many moderators, just some people to take care of major spam or people posting porn.
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 02:21 PM
WITH THE RIGHT COMBINATION OF ALGORITHMSSss
samurai7694
08-11-2011, 02:46 PM
Pretty much Dossar's choice, but I have my own reasons.
1. qqwref - This dude is smart, and he knows a lot about FFR, how it works, he would be a great mod.
2. i love you - Deserves to be mod, period. He's been around for a very long time and is an active member still to this day.
3. XXXsmittyXXX - He's been around FFR for a long time and he's a chill dude. He's nice to talk to and would definitely be lenient with his actions so the bans aren't apeshit stupid rofl. (copy-pasta'd from Dossar since it's pretty much what I had in mind)
4. Sky Kitten - She's a chat mod on DF and she's very nice, and keeps things in order.
5. TC_Halogen - How is he not mod? He's probably the most well-mannered and best all-around poster I know. He shows respect to others, and is active on the forums and prochat.
foilman8805
08-11-2011, 02:47 PM
foil 4 mod 2012 - change we can believe in (because i will ban everyone who sucks)
get out and vote
TC_Halogen
08-11-2011, 02:55 PM
those who were wondering: essentially - Kayla is a moderator and I'm acting as her scout (as a few people in MP did for Sprite-/Darkshark/other MP moderators) to let her know when things are happening. It works out perfectly alright because I don't have to get in anyone's faces or whatnot.
As far as the reason for me not being any sort of staff member; it's more than likely due to a poor attitude when it comes to being targeted, which I've had -huge- problems with in the past. The last major blow-up I think I've truly had was against i love you in the batch thread, when everyone was taking a stand on their thoughts of simfiling rhetoric.
Since then, I might have had one other blow-up, but I deleted it. I kinda figure now that there's really no point in arguing against other people anymore if it's going to turn nasty -- haters gon' hate and I'm not going to waste my precious keystrokes trying to validate an argument that no one will listen to.
psychoangel691
08-11-2011, 02:56 PM
AJ has had his rage fits on the forum lol. I don't know who I'd pick 'cause there's a lot of factors. 1. They can't play favorites, I think we've all seen that happen before. 2. They need to be thick skinned and do their job, I've gotten tons of hate for moderation I didn't even do and after last night forget it I have people going nuts on me. 3. They need to be able to control their own temper wen dealing with users. Just a lot of things go into it that people don't think about.
Marcus said it best people hate you when you do your job and hate you when you don't. I'm just really glad to see some users appreciate what we do, especially after being bashed all morning.
foilman8805
08-11-2011, 02:57 PM
I'm not going to waste my precious keystrokes trying to validate an argument that no one will listen to.
no one listens to your arguments on the internet because...
they read them
ba-dum pshhh
Patricoo
08-11-2011, 03:42 PM
So I've seen now three times about modding that "if you do your job, no one likes you" and have to protest the thought. I might not seem like I have a place to talk with my own jackassery. but in truth I've been staff in other places and held management positions in actual jobs and always keep good rating. (FFR is one of my secondary communities so I've kinda just let myself go more often.)
Using your authority isn't the problem, its predictability in the use of said authority. FFR, (along with many other websites and real life jobs) has problems keeping a standardized use of its punishment system. Its not unusual to find favoritism, lax punishments, overly random ones, or play a game of luck on which "officer" reads your stuff. I can't really form a perfect list here, but I'd have to say it'd need to be a list of people who can all act together as a unified unit. There are too many personalities going off at once atm. That said, I appreciate the mods wholly and glad they've surrendered time for the site, just wish they would hug it out sometimes.
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 03:46 PM
I should clarify what I mean by "people will hate you" for doing your job: Only retarded spammers/trolls will hate you for doing your job. Normal users will hate you if you're overly pedantic with the rules, as opposed to merely making sure the forum/chat is a fun place to hang out without having disruptions from douchenozzles.
In other words, it's a lot like that old quote by Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart, "I know it when I see it." It's not hard to determine when someone's being a disturbance.
Case in point: http://www.kongregate.com/pages/conduct
It's pretty simple: Don't be a jerk. Don't harass others. Don't do illegal shit. Don't be vulgar/abusive/annoying. Don't spam. I think the guidelines as described in http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/announcement.php?f=14&a=52 are pretty pedantic, in all honesty.
ddr_f4n
08-11-2011, 03:57 PM
I don't hate many mods in MotK, hell they're all good. Because they did their job well and treat the members just as well. Only hated staff member there is the main admin because she's a huge drama-whore, etc.
So when comparing them to here it's obvious as to what's going on.
Patricoo
08-11-2011, 04:00 PM
I should clarify what I mean by "people will hate you" for doing your job: Only retarded spammers/trolls will hate you for doing your job. Normal users will hate you if you're overly pedantic with the rules, as opposed to merely making sure the forum/chat is a fun place to hang out without having disruptions from douchenozzles.
Oh yea of course. Screw those trolls and I totally believe everyone modded here is trying to do their best. I'm just saying, there are pros and cons to being the 'rules are strict' guy or the 'rules are guideline/common sense' guy. More problems created when when each mod becomes a slightly different person on the spectrum.
psychoangel691
08-11-2011, 04:07 PM
I acted on something that was taken way out of control, I don't feel I did the wrong thing but I'm the bad guy because some people got a 3 day slap on the wrist ban for instigating the situation. Before last night I mainly gave warnings and think I had done maybe two bans.
Rebirth0
08-11-2011, 04:56 PM
aw damn I'm only on one nomination list
Guess I've been gone for too long to be remembered
00Razor00
08-11-2011, 04:56 PM
Rebirth should've had his forum powers reinstated. Just sayin'.
MrGiggles
08-11-2011, 06:00 PM
I understand that. I don't feel like we should need so many moderators, just some people to take care of major spam or people posting porn.Those three aren't active enough to cover the place 24/7 or even half that, lol.
There's no way I'm going to think of ten users.
random order
1 reincarnate
2 iironiic
3 leonid
4 dev
5 ap
6 sprite
7 halogen
8 chaz
9 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe wc though i'm really reaching here
10 lol half my list is current mods
11 kilga
ps the only modship I would ever consider is tgb mod because that place really needs a tgb user as mod
rodrone
08-11-2011, 06:05 PM
I don't get why people are nominating Hammy, he's a pleeb.
Spooler
08-11-2011, 06:28 PM
foil 4 mod 2012 - change we can believe in (because i will ban everyone who sucks)
get out and vote
i'm surprised you're not a moderator, your as interesting as they are
Coolboyrulez0
08-11-2011, 07:01 PM
most of these mod choices are great people but would be awful mods, lets be honest
Dr Tran
08-11-2011, 07:12 PM
Hey I'd be a great mod giggles :(
Kinda seems pointless to name people that are mods now
devonin
08-11-2011, 07:55 PM
Yeah well from the current administrators that would result in a disaster - they aren't on enough to do all of that and whatever else they have to do, and if there were no forum mods, that Cosplay thread would STILL be alive. The only active admin I saw yesterday was Sprite- and he didn't come until much later.
I'm on the site every day, I just happen to have put in enough of a coverage of mods to handle the day to day moderation that I don't -need- to be putting in 5 or 6 hours a day on top of my existing 10 hour a day real job.
The cosplay thread was open for one hour before it was deleted and bans were handed out. When things are up for -days- I'd start to get concerned about coverage.
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 08:17 PM
What happened in that cosplay thread? I was always too lazy to click it but now I feel like I missed out :(
i love you
08-11-2011, 08:27 PM
Kommisar randomly posts a picture of some touhou girl next to a big ass penis. Got banned for a year and then later gets permabanned for constant ban evasion. After that, certain people got upset that kommi got banned and started making threads such as "FREEKOMMI" or "FREEKIWI" and from there, the cosplay thread went nuts posting pictures of real life dicks, child porn, hentai you name it. It was just a crazy moment lmao
YoshL
08-11-2011, 08:34 PM
Well, Halogen is a new forum mod.
gratz, hehe
iironiic
08-11-2011, 08:44 PM
Congrats AJ :] I'm still making my list xD. This is a hard question hahaha
DossarLX ODI
08-11-2011, 08:52 PM
If any of you want to actually see what happened (for those that missed it), just give me a holler on AIM. Mine is reborndossar.
Coolboyrulez0
08-11-2011, 09:05 PM
If any of you want to actually see what happened (for those that missed it), just give me a holler on AIM. Mine is reborndossar.
Thanks for the fun, Dossar :')
Sad I missed it.
Also, obligatory Kree Frommi, and Nree Finja.
customstuff
08-11-2011, 09:07 PM
-customstuff
Holy crap what? <333
Unexpected.
My list is also very similar to his, except I wouldn't have put myself in there xD
i love you
08-11-2011, 09:14 PM
Big congrats to Halogen for promotion. You should have been one a while ago though.
TC_Halogen
08-11-2011, 09:14 PM
Thanks Byron.
Thanks for the fun, Dossar :')
Sad I missed it.
Also, obligatory Kree Frommi, and Nree Finja.
/ban 52560000 minutes
wait this isn't chat, oops
Spooler
08-11-2011, 09:21 PM
clearly you can't handle the responsibility and should not be a mod
TC_Halogen
08-11-2011, 09:59 PM
clearly you can't handle the responsibility and should not be a mod
nope, i'm horrible :(
mellonxcollie
08-11-2011, 10:07 PM
AFROBEAN
Duplica
08-11-2011, 10:10 PM
Halogen more than deserves it. He's been the most active person within the game for a while. Congrats.
Tarrik
08-11-2011, 10:22 PM
I'd nominate Dossar, He always helps me out whenever i need to know something, or can't work something out. He's Good guy, chill, and friendly to talk to.
Edit - Not to mention he's also hosted 2 Tourneys recently, and plans on doing a 3rd soon. Giving out to the community 8)
BethanyBangs
08-11-2011, 10:59 PM
Let me nominate iironiic, samurai7694, dossar, shikari. All of them are great guys, Wilson of course is great at the game and a caring person. Luis has been around for a while now, he's also a nice person and is already a stepfile judge. Dossar, one of the famous people here, he knows what's up. c: Raphael is very chill and listens very well. I can't think of 10 why 10! Should've said like 4 or 5 lmao.
robertsona
08-11-2011, 10:59 PM
i promise to lower ffr's debt ceiling if i am elected ffr Big Man 2012
Thatskier
08-11-2011, 11:16 PM
Me because I am not a bureaucrat.
Also, I am not Asian.
korny
08-11-2011, 11:22 PM
If not having even a modicum of swagger is a prerequisite then I'd say most all these choices are sufficient.
rushyrulz
08-11-2011, 11:33 PM
in no particular order:
-Rubixcarnate
-Reach
-iironiic
-psychoangel
-Patashu
-nois-or-e (night shift)
-devonin (for the mod portion of this exam)
-qqwref
-dossar
-i love you
MrGiggles
08-11-2011, 11:36 PM
i promise to lower ffr's debt ceiling if i am elected ffr Big Man 2012you will destroy the economy you fool all my credits will become worthless
Cold Kitten
08-11-2011, 11:43 PM
all my credits will become worthless
because they're not already.
Sephiroth28
08-11-2011, 11:44 PM
you will destroy the economy you fool all my credits will become worthless
because they're not already.
This. :D
Reincarnate
08-11-2011, 11:50 PM
I have -8,388,586 credits how will I feed my kids
ddr_f4n
08-11-2011, 11:55 PM
Sorry I'm on a mortgage to pay off all the secret songs I have.
MrGiggles
08-11-2011, 11:59 PM
i defaulted on my payments and they took all my songs, even secret zombie room
i have nothing left but the love of the lord jesus
Nyokou
08-12-2011, 12:38 AM
No one.
Syhto
08-12-2011, 12:54 AM
ooOOo iirooniiiic i think youuu should be a mod, cause like youre so nice and i love your threads he he lol !!
00Razor00
08-12-2011, 01:08 AM
Tbh, Rubix would make a great mod if he doesn't let the power get to his head, hahaha.
hi19hi19
08-12-2011, 01:28 AM
-Anuj
-dAnceguy117
-Banditcom
-Hyrogashi
-Omegix
-macgravel
-SMGod
-Afrobean
-Moogy
-JurseyRider734
Pro list.
A surprising number of these people actually still occasionally visit FFR lol. Hyrogashi apparently logged in last week? 0_o
DossarLX ODI
08-12-2011, 02:24 AM
Haha hi19 those guys are ancient
hi19hi19
08-12-2011, 03:05 AM
Tibs, TheRapingDragon and iPatch for mod too, they and many others didn't fit on my list :P
It's funny, you go through old threads and you're like why do I remember all these people. Tokzic, remember him, djshox yep him too, T0rajir0u pretty good stepper asian guy who wishes he was swedish... memories man!!!
Eh Nima tho, bitch didn't even AAAA quasar x1.3, weak imo not mod quality
Arch0wl
08-12-2011, 04:38 AM
If I were to mod two people right now (assuming they're not mods already, I don't know who the current staff are) they would be:
1st choice: bmah
2nd choice: Rebirth
Reasoning
Moderation serves two functions:
1. Rule enforcement (kind of important -- see below)
2. Community organizing (very important)
I've been a moderator of more sites than I can remember, an admin of several and I intensely follow politics so I have at least a better-than-average idea of how power influences action.
Rule enforcement is important but only for maybe three rules at most. You should take the Aztec model for rules -- in Aztec by Gary Jennings, the protagonist mentions that his society only had a handful of rules, but if you broke those you were eviscerated. Forums should follow the same code. The goal should be to make the site as Regular Person-friendly as possible. That is, if you were to post any discussion thread here to your facebook news feed, those people wouldn't be disgusted.
This intention can spiral into catastrophe when moderators get too involved in their role; it often becomes enforcement for the sake of enforcement and internal drama spawns as a result of it. The moderators dish out spiteful bans and Rule Lawyer. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_lawyer) The environment becomes authoritarian to the point that the more rebellious posters feel the need to create splinter websites and take a part of the community with them.
(Unfortunately I think my time as an admin of FFR contributed severely to advancing this mentality on FFR and I don't think I had the wisdom to understand what I was doing at the time. Chardish/Tasselfoot continued this and might have even made the rule situation worse, but with them gone FFR's rule system has improved somewhat.)
Community organizing is far more important than rule enforcement. If you cannot organize community projects, you should not be a moderator in my opinion, because it's wasted power otherwise. The "moderator" badge serves as a kind of gavel and allows you to make everyone shut up, which is necessary when certain projects cause a lot of bickering. It allows you to lock and delete and sticky threads, which is especially important when you need to get everyone's attention focused to the threads that will provoke everyone to act.
Someone like bmah is very good at organizing events. He reminded me twice over KBO, a website he knew I visited more than FFR, that the New Artist song batch was about to open and about to close. I have a hard time being that diligent about assignments for a class and here he is putting forth an impressive amount of effort entirely on his volunteer time. Giving him moderator power is useful because he will use it to benefit this community and not just assume the role of Forum Police.
Rebirth for similar reasons. However, he's #2 on my list because he recently rebooted Red Fraction and that's a big commitment.
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BONUS POST
Here are some people you do NOT want as moderators:
- the forum princes/princesses. Either of two things will happen: you'll find your staff turned against you under that person's lead, -or- that person will lose their subversive sexiness that came with being independent of any obligation. You immediately become more boring once you're in a mod role. Popular posters are better as community forces.
- the forum douche. People are douchebags because they want to believe they're the shit, but they need other people to acknowledge that they are. You do not want someone with this kind of insecurity having mod power. I'm 22 now, but when I was 15 and a chat mod I would have fights every other day with some guy in the chat and end up deleting his account. I probably deleted hundreds of accounts this way and turned a lot of people off from the game. Don't mod 15-year-old me, for the love of god.
- the token genius. It's tempting to believe that they're going to rub their smart juices all over the community and turn it into a sparkling utopia of tits and margaritas but smartness doesn't make someone a better moderator -- personality traits do. More than likely they'll just end up getting angry at people visibly dumber than they are.
- the pro player. Yes, they're active, but these kinds of people tend to have followings that make them splinter website material. Moreover, pro players have a panache to their skill that immediately becomes lame when they're mods. It's boring when the people who run the game are also the best at the game.
MrGiggles
08-12-2011, 11:23 AM
-JurseyRider734
dude I love jurs but she would probably be an awfully abusive mod and as far as I can tell she kinda disappeared
robertsona
08-12-2011, 11:31 AM
oh my god arch0wl why did you post all that
PlayTrumpet
08-12-2011, 12:09 PM
It's often really true. I've seen a lot of great people turn out to be not so great mods and then their posting went down - in other communities I've been part of.
Reincarnate
08-12-2011, 12:47 PM
Tbh, Rubix would make a great mod if he doesn't let the power get to his head, hahaha.
I'm actually only an OK mod. On Kong, I'm too lazy to log in all the time and keep tabs on the room. The best mods are the ones who are actually around enough to enforce rules, and they have to care enough and be reasonable.
In terms of style though, I think it's a reasonable one. If someone is douching it up and serving as an obvious disruption to the general peace of things, I'll give them a warning. If they keep mouthing off, I'll usually silence them for an hour. If they come back and keep it up, I nail them for a day. If someone's posting porn or something, though, I usually nuke them for a week.
I'm pretty much like Samuel L Jackson here from 0:16 to 0:33
HA-DMoHW1uo
Kagome
08-12-2011, 02:20 PM
I always thought TheRapingDragon would be a great moderator. Too bad he fell off the face of the earth.
igotrhythm
08-12-2011, 02:39 PM
TRD used to run the FFR Awards, didn't he? Man, he was so great at coming up with quips for the winners.
I kind of want Nforcer back for many of the reasons Arch mentioned. The sheer amount of cojones and charisma it takes to get the posters in TGB to agree to anything, much less the annual Dumbass of the Year contest with stringent rules for the nomination and voting processes, means he's definitely got the right stuff.
yo man im awesome
08-12-2011, 03:12 PM
Hmmm...
(In no particular order)
1. iironiic - One of the nicest people I talk to, knows what he's doing, he really deserves it.
2. bmah - Why isn't he a mod?
3. rebirth0 - See Bmah ^^
4. Hammy - True, sometimes Hammy goes a little bit over, but he is an incredible mod
5. qqwref - See Bmah ^^
6. arch0wl - Self Explanatory
7. Halogen - Just got promoted, is doing a great job like we expected. :)
8. DarkShark - He's darkshark. What else is there to say?
9. KidMerkury - Another great mod as of now.
10. Jenova - See KidMerkury ^^
Arch0wl
08-12-2011, 03:34 PM
oh my god arch0wl why did you post all that
I started with "bmah and Rebirth" and felt bad leaving those two names there without any supporting reasons, so I elaborated and ended up typing far more than I had intended. After I noticed how big the post was I decided to **** everything and post it anyway to not waste that time investment.
Bluearrowll
08-12-2011, 03:54 PM
Tbh I enjoy the arch0wl posts, so I don't mind the lengthiness.
DJRiDDeR
08-12-2011, 04:20 PM
It's very simple.
DJRiDDeR
Nyokou
08-12-2011, 05:23 PM
I liked stretchy and Guido as mods tbh.
LJRoX
08-12-2011, 06:12 PM
coolrun
dAnceguy117
08-12-2011, 07:33 PM
Hyrogashi apparently logged in last week? 0_o
what
i love you
08-12-2011, 07:38 PM
I actually saw him on when Dossar made that revolutionary elude AAA thread. I thought I was not the only person who noticed rofl
bassCannon
08-12-2011, 08:39 PM
yeah everytime someone AAA's revolutionary etude i have the ffR servers send me a text msg 8-)
Andrew Mitchell
08-12-2011, 08:48 PM
Europe
1 Xayphon 1.1676
2 bob bob 65.6516
3 retching oesophagus 104.9911
4 Myattboy 142.1797
5 sempus 142.9019
6 _.Spitfire._ 143.2968
7 biohazard_123 154.0375
8 steve92 188.0011
9 SKG_Scintill 193.2990
10 Unreal143 195.3523
Garquillex
08-12-2011, 09:31 PM
I'd nominate myself if I could actually play without lag and thus be active again.
I wouldn't nominate anyone else without an interview since you have to dig for mod qualities, as some are not overt.
rushyrulz
08-12-2011, 10:39 PM
I liked stretchy and Guido as mods tbh.
Stretchy and Guido were ban happy.
Also hi19, I saw Hyrogashi in MP a few days ago !.!
While we're making a list of old people:
Dynam0
BahamutX
bill clinton
female
robertsona
08-12-2011, 10:44 PM
izlude
bassCannon
08-13-2011, 12:22 AM
hi19 for mod 8-)
welsh_girl
08-13-2011, 03:38 AM
I always thought TheRapingDragon would be a great moderator. Too bad he fell off the face of the earth.
I think he'd of abused them with constant power trips.
Calcium Deposit
08-13-2011, 03:43 AM
I would nominate
Nyokou
08-13-2011, 04:29 AM
Stretchy and Guido were ban happy.
Also hi19, I saw Hyrogashi in MP a few days ago !.!
While we're making a list of old people:
Dynam0
BahamutX
bill clinton
female
I know Guido was.
ew bill clinton? That guy is/was a douche
All_That_Chaz
08-13-2011, 11:32 AM
1) Stretchy
2) Guido
3) Squeek
4) Fish
5) Spec
6) Omega
7) Jewpin
8) Hammy
9) Rebirth if he wouldn't repeat mistakes
10) Reach
oh yeah, but I wouldn't demod everyone. I miss the old staff crew =(
rushyrulz
08-13-2011, 12:01 PM
Edubardus
Rebirth0
08-13-2011, 12:02 PM
Eh Nima tho, bitch didn't even AAAA quasar x1.3, weak imo not mod quality
Nima = SMGod. In case you didn't know
female got permabanned for posting some kind of porn excessively, during a trolling session back in like 2007
prongsie
08-13-2011, 12:03 PM
spitfiyah because he's active, friendly, and he seems like he'd be able to take on the responsibility just fine.
Arch0wl
08-13-2011, 01:00 PM
I liked stretchy and Guido as mods tbh.
They both were vanguards of the authoritarian modding style common during their time on the site, and they used their mod status more for popularity than for community improvement. They later became propagators of the cliquey forum politics that eventually led to FFYa. I don't dislike them as people -- they were good posters -- but I don't think they were good mods.
All_That_Chaz
08-13-2011, 01:28 PM
They both were vanguards of the authoritarian modding style common during their time on the site, and they used their mod status more for popularity than for community improvement. They later became propagators of the cliquey forum politics that eventually led to FFYa. I don't dislike them as people -- they were good posters -- but I don't think they were good mods.
Wow that's not even remotely accurate. They didn't care what people thought of them on FFR and were against the idea of ffya (beyond simply removing those people from the general population, anyway). Maybe they were like that before but certainly not since I met them in 2007.
Except the authoritarian bit. They did actually enforce rules. That much is true.
Arch0wl
08-13-2011, 01:34 PM
Why are you telling me about their indifference to the opinions of the others? My post doesn't imply anything with respect to their feelings toward those opinions. I also don't know why you quoted the entire post and not just the part you were responding to -- does their indifference somehow make them less authoritarian moderators?
edit: oh, all right. Saw your edit.
lumphoboextreme
08-13-2011, 01:44 PM
izlude
This.
All_That_Chaz
08-13-2011, 02:24 PM
My post doesn't imply anything with respect to their feelings toward those opinions.
You said they used their status for popularity.
Arch0wl
08-13-2011, 03:24 PM
Yeah. They gave me the impression that they regarded moderation as more of a club than a means of improving the website, and they could still have done that even if they were indifferent to the way they were received.
You said they used their status for popularity.
I can see that. That seems to describe them pretty well and that's probably why I didn't think fondly of them.
MrMagic5239
08-13-2011, 03:57 PM
Of all the people everyone missed
I nominate blazze
bassCannon
08-13-2011, 05:28 PM
Of all the people everyone missed
I nominate blazze
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/SbqQ2scWIoI/AAAAAAAAcP0/NHNOiAbjmYU/s400/futurama_fry_looking_squint.jpg
DustyFart
08-13-2011, 05:29 PM
I'd pick me
Andrew Mitchell
08-13-2011, 05:30 PM
my sole function as a mod would would be to keep that pretentious arcowl in check
(say goodbye to pop psychology and womens studies)
me.
i'd ban the **** outta all y'all
+i used to be tgb panel sooooooo experience (sup mccain)
EDIT: Guido+stretchy are chill as hell stfu
foilman8805
08-13-2011, 09:25 PM
I can see that. That seems to describe them pretty well and that's probably why I didn't think fondly of them.
are we talking about the same stretchy and guido because what the ****, they aren't like that at all
All_That_Chaz
08-13-2011, 10:11 PM
Yeah I really don't know how you guys could reach that conclusion about stretchy and guido, unless you're just bitter about getting banned at some point or something.
Reincarnate
08-13-2011, 10:15 PM
stretchy and guido seemed fine to me, never had any issues with them
MrMagic5239
08-13-2011, 10:18 PM
I made a thread a couple years back about your favorite quotes from TV commercials and stretchy deleted the thread because it was "nonsense".
That topic was a rather fine post and had no need to be deleted.
Quigly
08-13-2011, 11:06 PM
grandigod and anticrombie
guys am i doing it right
ddrking133
08-14-2011, 02:37 AM
i should be a mod because i actually know how to run a community with my e-penis
Arch0wl
08-14-2011, 03:04 AM
Yeah I really don't know how you guys could reach that conclusion about stretchy and guido, unless you're just bitter about getting banned at some point or something.
Be aware that people could say the opposite -- that they don't know how you couldn't reach that conclusion unless you had an overwhelmingly positive view of them.
I can't remember threads in particular, but when I browsed FFR Chat a few years back I saw those two locking a few threads with poor reasons for doing so. This isn't like, say, devonin, where he can make a pretty good case for every thread he locks. It just felt like they had fallen into this kind of comfort zone where they knew the "don't argue with staff" rule (seriously, this should not be a rule) would render any verdict of theirs unchallenged.
My memory could be influenced by these few seemingly unfair instances though, and I wasn't very active when they were, so they could have been totally fine outside of these few selective memories and I'm just not remembering it.
hi19hi19
08-14-2011, 05:38 AM
In all honesty though, I think FFR is in a pretty decent place for mods right now. You don't need a ton of moderators for a forum without many active participants...
Oh and...
Nima = SMGod. In case you didn't know
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