TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

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  • choof
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2013
    • 8563

    #166
    Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

    Originally posted by Curry and Rice
    That is a product of my writing style with post bigger than a sentence, i.e. writing a post then haphazardly editing it, inserting sentences in-between places and not always bothering to make them fit in 100%. :P
    sick defense, thank you for letting me know that you did indeed patch that together
    that explains why the tone of the post was so bad

    Originally posted by Curry and Rice
    You're dodging my questions. In this situation, you must justify your actions.
    i've answered your questions so far, please respond to my posts as quickly as you can

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    • choof
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2013
      • 8563

      #167
      Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

      Originally posted by choof
      what has roundbox done to warrant a slight town read
      Originally posted by choof
      do you really think the vote was retaliation
      Originally posted by choof
      why did you not like my retaliation vote
      Originally posted by choof
      burden of proof is on you, bucko, please elaborate what it is about me that is suspect
      Originally posted by choof
      curry



      this is precisely what happened and does not warrant an "iirc"



      please elaborate on why my vote was a tipping point
      do you think my vote on round is misguided
      do you think I am bussing a partner
      do you think my pressuring of another player warrants a reactionary vote
      I want snap answers to these questions, I don't want you to research, I don't want you to calculate the best answers that would make you seem human, I want you to answer these questions as a human

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      • choof
        Banned
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Nov 2013
        • 8563

        #168
        Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

        you can paraphrase but don't quote shitty posts you made early on in the game, i'm just going to accuse you of using confirmation bias

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        • Curry and Rice
          FFR Player
          • May 2015
          • 5

          #169
          Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

          Originally posted by choof
          i've answered your questions so far, please respond to my posts as quickly as you can
          No you haven't.

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          • choof
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Nov 2013
            • 8563

            #170
            Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

            i will not respond to any posts from you until i get pure answers for all of the questions i posed to you

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            • Curry and Rice
              FFR Player
              • May 2015
              • 5

              #171
              Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

              Originally posted by choof
              you can paraphrase but don't quote shitty posts you made early on in the game, i'm just going to accuse you of using confirmation bias
              All you're doing thus far is circle dodging, and trying to make it seem like I'm in the wrong for accusing you.

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              • Curry and Rice
                FFR Player
                • May 2015
                • 5

                #172
                Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                To be clear, you have completely ignored these:
                Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                Worth noting, Choof's done about the same thing. To be fair, a lot of other people haven't said much else yet, but those two in particular seem to be doing a lot of meaningless posting.
                Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                I'll answer it anyway. I have a slight human read on Roundbox, and I do not like Choof's retaliation vote (seems to be a lazy action to take instead of actually showing Roundbox that his own vote is unqualified).
                Not only would these answer your questions, but would also address my suspicions of your actions up to this point.

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                • choof
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 8563

                  #173
                  Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                  curry, these are your posts in the game so far

                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice


                  This is meaningful, right?
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  Worth noting, Choof's done about the same thing. To be fair, a lot of other people haven't said much else yet, but those two in particular seem to be doing a lot of meaningless posting.
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  And I don't just say that because it's Choof.
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  Apologies... I will be gone for a few hours. :K


                  Choof.
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  I'll answer it anyway. I have a slight human read on Roundbox, and I do not like Choof's retaliation vote (seems to be a lazy action to take instead of actually showing Roundbox that his own vote is unqualified).

                  Might be here for another 2-5 minutes, but I'm not sure if anybody will have any other questions for me during that time.
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  IIRC, I brought up Choof before you (when Nighthawk mentioned Ben as a vote, I mentioned that I believed Choof was doing the same thing, or at least very similar, to what Nighthawk suspected him for). His vote was the tipping point to get me to vote for him (I would've felt guilty voting for him earlier but his previous actions were, in my opinion, inexcusable). You are simply another factor in this situation.


                  are you serious i just got back from seeing it
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  You have given me no reasons not to suspect you. How 'bout you do that first?
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  Solid vote. Is that your sole reasoning?? :P
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  That is a product of my writing style with post bigger than a sentence, i.e. writing a post then haphazardly editing it, inserting sentences in-between places and not always bothering to make them fit in 100%. :P
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  You're dodging my questions. In this situation, you must justify your actions.
                  out of these posts, these are the ones that contain questions directed at me

                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  You have given me no reasons not to suspect you. How 'bout you do that first?
                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  Solid vote. Is that your sole reasoning?? :P
                  so when you say

                  Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                  You're dodging my questions.
                  I say that you have no questions

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                  • choof
                    Banned
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 8563

                    #174
                    Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                    Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                    To be clear, you have completely ignored these:



                    Not only would these answer your questions, but would also address my suspicions of your actions up to this point.
                    thank you for doing what i explicitly asked you not to do, i'm fine with keeping a vote on you and seeing you die today

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                    • choof
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                      • Nov 2013
                      • 8563

                      #175
                      Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                      curry what are your reads

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                      • roundbox
                        fhqwhgads
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2086

                        #176
                        Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                        Originally posted by Charles Claythorne
                        hmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMM

                        okay roundbox can you give me some SICK, DANK READS then

                        Also, do you think based on the few games you've played with Curry and Rice so far, he's the type to pocket like that?
                        I'll do what I can. I usually put out a reads list ~36 hours into phase, but usually I don't have 3 voters. HERE'S MY STUFF:

                        1. roundbox - me, town

                        2. sunfan - Null, slight scum taste (or is that salt?):
                        Sunfan scumreading me d1 is not alignment indicative. Him pushing a scumread leaves a bad taste in my mouth, even if this is a little OMGUS. He stated that he still had a negative feeling about me after he posted "the game has officially started", so he's definitely committed to his vote on me at the moment. I think his point on jrodd's "forced read" on ben is decent.

                        3. nighthawk - Null
                        I don't think choof's push on his reads list is entirely founded as he is new to the community, OOTC, etc. Reminds me a little bit of when I started playing TWG here again. However, Nighthawk stated that he did his research for this game and I'm interested to see how that manifests with people he hasn't had much play with.
                        My game experience with him showed me that his wolf play is good, so I wonder if the fish-out-of-water experience would show if he rolled wolf this game. So far I haven't seen anything crazy, but he has been playing safe in looking at Mashi and C&R since they're from LLF. The only major exception to this is ben and his suspicions on him.

                        4. choof - strongest town:
                        Reasons stated in previous post.

                        5. kawamii - maybe town:
                        Her major contributions to the game are agreements with Nighthawk's points, as seen here:
                        Originally posted by Nighthawk252
                        But actually that's a serious vote for Benguin. We're not going to get anywhere close to a good lynch without something resembling accusations, and Ben hasn't done that yet.
                        Originally posted by Nighthawk252
                        6. charles "mashi" claythrorne: Wolf. I feel like Mashi has a tendency to go inactive as a wolf and he's not posting now. The closest he's gotten to gameplay is saying that Kawamii tends to clear herself as town.
                        Originally posted by Kawamii
                        Benguin

                        i think mashi is good
                        I'm not sure if it's alignment indicative, but I just noticed this. I don't think it means anything. She has plenty of experience playing with Mashi so this is probably a fair read from her. I don't think she would backpack this early and obviously from what I've seen from her.

                        6. mashi - hmmmmmmMMMMM:
                        I find it interesting that you pushed me up to 3 votes this early in the phase. You bamboozled me a little bit in the C9++ game, so I want to make a read on you myself to see if it's right. Should I keep this read a secret??

                        nah
                        Your vote on me is due to my "joke" post about C&R pocketing me. The post was serious solely because I forgot that he made a mention of choof earlier in the thread and it looked strange that he was immediately jumping to my choof vote. When I said that I hadn't seen a C&R wolf game, your response was:

                        Originally posted by Charles Claythorne
                        Ohhh right. I've played games with Curry and Rice on LLF a few times (he's Golden Silver there) and I think in general, as a Wolf he tries to defend Wolf Partners more than he defends Humans. That is, I don't think he's the type to try to pocket deeply as a Wolf.
                        Were you finding me scum because my post didn't align with your current read on him? If so, I'm not a huge fan of that. People read others in different ways. You could see how I read C&R (and yes I know he's Golden Silver) later. I did some work for you!!
                        I don't think you would put me at 3 votes as a wolf this early into the phase. It seems like a crazy gambit, but you are quite frivolous!!
                        get null'd with a side of hul and town (sun)

                        7. benguin - Needs to post more.

                        8. curryandrice -
                        Mashi, I did some searching and I found this.
                        Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                        That is fairly normal for me, although, I assure you, if I am dead set on an accusation, I will pursue it relentlessly. I am not at that stage yet. Now, a few examples!
                        I think self-stated meta is a very interesting thing to examine. In his post, he highlights instances where stated he was unsure of reads on players, finally arriving at the point that if he has any reasonable suspicions he will pursue them. I think his choof vote and the fact he had suspicions on him before choof's interaction with me seems to align with this. Given that he hasn't stated "oh I do (x) (y) and (z) when I'm (alignment)" in this current game and it matches what he's doing this game (if you consider his vote on choof relentless pursuit in any stage). I think he's kinda towny.

                        also he never clarified what he meant about that one post about choof now that I'm on that topic

                        9. jrodd -
                        He dropped all of his standard buzzwords (entrance meta, lock clear, dream team) and posted a some very early reads. Sunfan's point that these were forced and bad is good, but looking back jrodd pointed out that these reads were forced, as seen here:

                        Originally posted by j-rodd123
                        it's called, thinking about the 1 page of posts while at the gym,and how to force an early read
                        Originally posted by thesunfan
                        I agree that jrodd's read on ben is very forced. (ie its bad)
                        So are you agreeing with jrodd that his read is forced after he first stated it? hm
                        I know this is my jrodd section but whatever
                        jrodd is null I want to see more posts from him but I haven't seen anything alarmingly good or bad so far
                        also for anyone not in the know: THE DREAM TEAM MEANS NOTHING UNLESS BOTH OF THEM ARE IN THE F3 AND ONE OF THEM IS A WOLF


                        ok done
                        Originally posted by the sun fan
                        I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                        • Curry and Rice
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2015
                          • 5

                          #177
                          Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                          This is the only question not fully answered by what I have said previous. Thus, I will discuss it.
                          Originally posted by choof
                          what has roundbox done to warrant a slight town read
                          I got a good impression of his posts on pages 4-6, especially these.
                          Originally posted by roundbox
                          these two posts seem more game oriented than ben's posting history
                          albeit the second quote about slank cover is kind of in the middle for me. he's referring to ben talking about eating C&R for dinner, which might be worth noting because he's the first person to bring up C&R and it seemed a little random. I'm not reading too much into it though
                          Originally posted by roundbox
                          Slank cover (if I understand it correctly) refers to a wolf or suspicious person giving an excuse as to why they aren't posting/doing something, usually related to real-life circumstances.
                          Originally posted by roundbox
                          choof

                          Do you have any new thoughts
                          I know you dislike shitposting so it's halfway strange to me you're not raring to go like you usually do when the shitposts have been dying down (aka right now)
                          Originally posted by choof
                          I say that you have no questions
                          Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                          Worth noting, Choof's done about the same thing. To be fair, a lot of other people haven't said much else yet, but those two in particular seem to be doing a lot of meaningless posting.
                          Originally posted by Curry and Rice
                          I'll answer it anyway. I have a slight human read on Roundbox, and I do not like Choof's retaliation vote (seems to be a lazy action to take instead of actually showing Roundbox that his own vote is unqualified).
                          !???!?!!!?

                          You are currently trying to dismiss information on technicality and/or pure laziness. You have not explained your own actions, which I consider very questionable, and expect me to respond based on this lack of response from you.

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                          • roundbox
                            fhqwhgads
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2086

                            #178
                            Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                            Originally posted by roundbox
                            what does this mean
                            did you answer this C&R I haven't read your thing with choof since I was finishing my reads

                            also unvote for the time being
                            Originally posted by the sun fan
                            I'd be too tiny to be a bouncer



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                            • Charles Claythorne
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 138

                              #179
                              Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                              Unvote for now because I'm about to play League with Kawamii (or watch Love Live, hulll) and roundbox at least put a lot of effort into his reads and they don't look too shabby.

                              If you're a Wolf though, don't think that your essay posts have any effect on me!!!

                              ---

                              lol i meant to post this like 30 minutes ago whoops

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                              • Curry and Rice
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2015
                                • 5

                                #180
                                Re: TWG CXXXVII - Crisis in Kitchen Stadium! Bobby Flay's Revenge - GAME THREAD

                                Originally posted by roundbox
                                did you answer this C&R I haven't read your thing with choof since I was finishing my reads
                                That was a slight joke, meaning that I wasn't just going after Choof because he's Choof, but rather because I didn't like the way he had been posting up until that point.

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