03-3-2023, 12:31 AM | #21 |
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Re: Anti-LGBTQIA+ legislation staying lowkey but with big impact
^There should be teachers that specialize in what you're talking about so all the other teachers can just relax and teach their own subject without having to worry about anything.
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03-3-2023, 03:25 PM | #23 |
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how can teachers specialize in this when states are criminalizing the discussion of it in the first place
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03-3-2023, 08:25 PM | #24 |
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by ur definition then all schools have been homophobic prior to like 2010 lol
i dont expect teachers to know everyone's pronouns on a case by case basis unless it's specifically a part of one's official documentation it's like expecting airport security to refer to you by your pronouns without said pronouns being a part of your passport that being said the drag shows and whatever being banned is dumb with no logic behind it cuz like ppl said it's stuff being done behind closed doors, who cares
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if u truly wish to make pronouns a universally accepted thing, make it a part of official documentation like ur citizenship, driver's license etc so that everyone's on the same page, obviously that's probably a near impossible task but that's what needs to be done if u wanna stop seeing all the back and forth regarding lgbtq acceptance
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Believe me, if things like legal name changes / sex changes weren't prohibitively expensive and complicated to perform, I'd love to get my own personal documentation updated. But unfortunately, some places can tend to make that rather hard to do. This is something that I personally believe should be addressed, but in the meantime- it doesn't hurt to take the time to remember the pronouns of someone you're going to see more than once. paperwork or not.
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03-4-2023, 03:49 PM | #29 |
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What's wrong with just using the kids name instead of pronouns? If the kid doesn't like their name they can just provide a nickname or something that the teacher can use instead. And if there is a situation where a pronoun must be used no matter what "they" works for everyone.
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03-4-2023, 04:02 PM | #30 |
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Also imagining how ridiculous "just use the kid's name" is in practice. "Okay class, Dan is going to present Dan's project now. Let's all give Dan our attention, and then when Dan's finished, if anybody has any questions for Dan about Dan's work, they can ask Dan." Also, the thing about using 'they' is that once you know somebody's pronouns, if they're not "they/them" you're now misgendering them. And while your average cis kid mostly doesn't really care if you say 'them' or not (but see how many average boys would be fine with 'she/her' funny how some pronouns are "fine" and some "aren't" even for cis people) but trans kids deal with enough garbage from every direction that the misgendering might be less painful when it's 'them' it's still shitty for no necessary reason. A kid at my nephew's school told everybody that his name was going to be (Not going to say the actual one, just in the bizarre case that it somehow allows people to identify the kid) but something like "Duderino" and everybody was like "Okay" and they just...called him Duderino for a while, students, teachers, parents, and it was fine. He eventually decided to go back to using his birth name, but it was a couple months of just calling him what he wanted, and nothing bad happened. What's wrong with just talking to people how they want? Last edited by sff_writer_dan; 03-4-2023 at 04:15 PM.. |
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^I didn't know nicknames are illegal too jeez wtf. fair point on the pronoun thing but there should be some loopholes... i'm just spit ballin here ya'll so don't take me too seriously lol.
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03-4-2023, 04:45 PM | #34 |
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^I get what you're sayin. Isn't it crazy how such a small number of people can just be like "yo here's some new bs laws and we expect you all to follow them" which most people will because control by fear works pretty good (sadly).
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03-4-2023, 04:51 PM | #35 |
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These are the same people proposing laws to forbid trans girls from playing girl's sports when there are literally 0-1 actual trans girls playing girls sports in the whole state. Millions of dollars of tax money going into paying the people who want to keep one or in some cases zero kids away from something that literally does not matter at all.
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they could bring back co-ed sports for high school.
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03-8-2023, 09:08 PM | #38 |
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A trans friend of mine, in addition to the cost of application for a legal name change, also had to appear in court and tell a judge exactly why she wanted to change her name, and he had the power to just go "no" if he wanted to.
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it's so sad about all the trans youth these kind of bills affect and how many more children might fall into depression and not be able to get the care they need
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Country of freedom, huh? WHERE'S THE FUCKIN FREEDOM??
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