Combo Scoring Discussion

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

FFR has always used combo scoring and it will always continue to do that. There are other games which use raw scoring systems. Go play those.

Saying this is like telling you if you don't like this thread you can always just go read a different one

so go read a different one

FFR may have always used it but that doesn't mean it can't be changed, I think you're missing that point.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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[Izzy]

bump

This needs to be ffr priority #1.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Well, the raw scoring system is already planned for the new TP system which has been coompleted for months, but never worked into the site. Implementing the new TP system should be priority #1. It also offers the opportunity for newer players to earn TP sooner in their FFR experience, which may be motivation to stick to it.

We want raw TP! When do we want it? This year!

[Izzy]

I'm down for anything as long as it is related to raw scoring.

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

Well, the raw scoring system is already planned for the new TP system which has been coompleted for months, but never worked into the site. Implementing the new TP system should be priority #1. It also offers the opportunity for newer players to earn TP sooner in their FFR experience, which may be motivation to stick to it.

We want raw TP! When do we want it? This year!

Oh yeah, as if average ranks weren't silly enough when it comes to combo scoring. A point system, specifically designed to show you how skilled you are as a player on a wide variety of harder songs, is based on combo scoring.

Can't wait to see the new TP's implemented, especially if they are going to be raw score (although FFR would have to save your best raw score for this to even be feasible). I guess that raw score recording is going to be worked into the engine anyway, might as well go all the way with it and make leader boards raw scoring as well!

[Dynam0]

Raw scoring plz

[Izzy]

bump

[popsicle_3000]

Id be interested to get some admin input into the status of ffr scoring.
is there debates going on within admin? or have they decided on way or another? What kind of hurdles are there to implement raw scoring, etc...
Anything you can tell us?

[bmah]

I've already mentioned this but a key problem in changing score recording to raw score-based has to do with the limited memory the server has available (~80 GB only iirc). I presume recording all scores in this new way will eat up a lot of memory. I don't think most staff members are against the idea of raw scoring, but it's also not my place to tell Synth to upgrade the server size.

[Izzy]

Why such a stupidly small harddrive? I'll mail you a terabyte.

Edit: Actually I have 2 identical 250gb drives that I could give away. Assuming you would want some kind of raid setup.

Start up some kind of fundraising and I'll definitely donate if it helps upgrade the server in order to make some progress towards this.

[TheSaxRunner05]

Has synth even logged in during the last year? (@bmah). Last time I looked at his page, he'd been away for more than a year.

[kmay]

bmah? why would it take up more than saving combo scores? i dont understand.... delete the combo scores and save raw

[bmah]

Originally Posted by TheSaxRunner05

Has synth even logged in during the last year? (@bmah). Last time I looked at his page, he'd been away for more than a year.

Synth is sporadically on Skype and occasionally deals with server stuff, but he's usually a rare sight.

Originally Posted by kmay

bmah? why would it take up more than saving combo scores? i dont understand.... delete the combo scores and save raw

That is a question you'd have to ask Velo or someone who would know the mechanics of the site. I wouldn't know how easy it is (or even if it is preferable) to delete all current scores that are recorded through the current scoring system.

[Dynam0]

Everyone flood Velo's inbox, let's get shit done

[popsicle_3000]

Originally Posted by bmah

I've already mentioned this but a key problem in changing score recording to raw score-based has to do with the limited memory the server has available (~80 GB only iirc). I presume recording all scores in this new way will eat up a lot of memory. I don't think most staff members are against the idea of raw scoring, but it's also not my place to tell Synth to upgrade the server size.

Ah ok, this is interesting.
by memory, you mean hdd space?

Any ideas how much memory we'd be needing to make the switch? I'm sure people (and some have already mentioned this) would have stuff they'd be able to send off to synth or ?sprite (i forget who actually has the server) if physical hardware is limiting this change.

[bmah]

Yes, the HDD has a capacity of about 80 GB. How much memory is required for the switch? Once again, I'll reiterate that I don't know the technical details that characterize this site.

So I think it's clear what people want. The next step would be to convince the higher-ups to get the appropriate HDD space necessary to make the change. I've also never mentioned the amount of work required to make the change either...that I don't know, but you have to take that into consideration as well with a group of staff that are entirely volunteers.

[popsicle_3000]

thx for the info

[Izzy]

bump

This is too big of an issue to just let fade away

[foxfire667]

Originally Posted by Izzy

This is too big of an issue to just let fade away

I would really like some acknowledgement that raw scoring will be replaced with combo scoring in the future. Obviously this could be a much more complex process than I imagine, but I'm not asking for this to be done immediately. Just some sort of loose mention that it will be worked on and implemented when there is ample time to do so.