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Old 09-11-2008, 06:12 AM   #1
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Default To everyone concerned about a manmade black hole

I know there's been a lot of concern about the proton accelerator and the one in ten billionth chance of it creating a black hole, and everyone is worried about whether or not we'll live to see the end of this year.

However, there is a site that keeps updates about how the accelerator is doing, as well as how close we are to the end of the world (if possible).

For more information, click here to keep updated. And if you're truly worried about it, such as myself, you can make it your home page and get updated every time you open a web browser.

There's also a live webcam feed as well, where you can see the reactor itself and see the experiments at work (thank you y0ttabyte)
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:14 AM   #2
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Wow this is amazing, I'll check back every few days or so.
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:17 AM   #3
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i dont want to die ;_;

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then mr hawkings steps in
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4715761.ece
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:35 AM   #4
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Very informative. I love the layout, makes it easy to navigate.
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:40 AM   #5
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http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Live webcams at the LHC, so you can keep track if anything goes awry or not :P
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:38 AM   #6
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Lol, I love that site.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:49 AM   #7
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thank you for making my life a little less stressful
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:52 AM   #8
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post for watch later
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:19 AM   #9
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lol u said "proton accelerator"
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:25 AM   #10
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:37 PM   #11
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:45 PM   #12
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The black hole is coming!?
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:50 PM   #13
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If they somehow made a black hole that started to devour everything, I would go there and get a front row seat.
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Old 09-11-2008, 06:55 PM   #14
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I devour everything.
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Old 09-11-2008, 07:56 PM   #15
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Oh dear! Gordon, get away from the-
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:03 PM   #16
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If they somehow made a black hole that started to devour everything, I would go there and get a front row seat.
Then you better be prepared to wait many many years, by the time it gets large enough to consume you, your time may already be up.

Everyone has a gravitational pull because everyone has mass. You have a gravitational pull, your friends have a gravitational pull, your car has a gravitational pull - you get the idea. The thing is, as you may have already noticed, these things don't have an extremely strong pull on you and you don't have an extremely strong pull on them. A blackhole is just all that mass pushed together into an extremely small point. It doesn't become more or less massive when it becomes a blackhole. Now imagine two small atoms being smashed to form a blackhole, even then, its mass is still the mass of the two atoms combined and its gravitational pull will be extremely small. It will take hundreds, if not millions of years before it can actually consume you.

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Old 09-12-2008, 03:57 AM   #17
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Then you better be prepared to wait many many years, by the time it gets large enough to consume you, your time may already be up.

Everyone has a gravitational pull because everyone has mass. You have a gravitational pull, your friends have a gravitational pull, your car has a gravitational pull - you get the idea. The thing is, as you may have already noticed, these things don't have an extremely strong pull on you and you don't have an extremely strong pull on them. A blackhole is just all that mass pushed together into an extremely small point. It doesn't become more or less massive when it becomes a blackhole. Now imagine two small atoms being smashed to form a blackhole, even then, its mass is still the mass of the two atoms combined and its gravitational pull will be extremely small. It will take hundreds, if not millions of years before it can actually consume you.

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Actually, that's not right.

A black hole of that kind basically "evaporates" right away. I'm pretty sure that the only way they would know it had even been there is by measuring the theoretical Hawking radiation.

And I'm not sure how it would "evaporate" or where that mass would go, but I read somewhere or saw it on a video that they said the same math that said it COULD make a black hole also said that the black hole coming from it would disappear right away too and wouldn't be dangerous at all.
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Old 09-12-2008, 04:36 AM   #18
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The black hole is coming!?
This post was funny merely because of the quizzical look on Cookie Monster's face. I imagined him saying it, and therefore lol'd as a result.

Good times were had.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:27 AM   #19
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(im not 100% sure of this idea just so everything is clear)
If a blackhole the size of 2 protons were to be made, there would be very very very little chance that it would have enough time to absorb any other matter since both protons are suspended in a magnetic field and therefore wouldn't collide with any other matter. So what everyone should really be worried about is the the ridiculously small chance that at the very moment the particles collide, the magnetic fields accelerating the particles collapses, for some reason or another, and the black hole falls into the accelerator wall within the time it would take for the black hole to evaporate.

Another possibility for the destruction of earth (and a much more frightening one I think) is that the collision will create a negatively charged strangelet. A strangelet is a subatomic particle consisting of one up, down, and strange quark. If a negative strangelet were to be created, it would have enough time to interact with the subatomic particles in the surrounding area and exponentially convert all the matter on earth into a GIANT LUMP OF STRANGE MATTER. You would see, in the last few moments of your existence, everything around you turn into a soup of sub atomic particles. Neat idea eh?
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Actually, that's not right.

A black hole of that kind basically "evaporates" right away. I'm pretty sure that the only way they would know it had even been there is by measuring the theoretical Hawking radiation.

And I'm not sure how it would "evaporate" or where that mass would go, but I read somewhere or saw it on a video that they said the same math that said it COULD make a black hole also said that the black hole coming from it would disappear right away too and wouldn't be dangerous at all.
Black holes gradually leak away their energy. The reason they disappear instantly is because they contain almost no energy to leak away to begin with. They're microscopic and harmless - the equivalent energy would not light up a light bulb, and thus it would dissipate immediately.

The reason arguing this as a threat is *retarded* is because IF it were true (that the LHC could indeed create black holes, which I do not think it can), there are black holes everywhere on earth right now. Why? Ultra High-Energy Cosmic Rays that GREATLY exceed the energy associated with the LHC enter our atmosphere constantly, smashing into oxygen, nitrogen etc creating interesting collisions.

Clearly, since the earth has been around for 4.5 billion years and it hasn't gone anywhere, this is inconsequential and people need to chill the **** out.
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