TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

sure thing





I read this as you being condescending as a way to get bug to stop thinking of you as a wolf out of shame or embarrassment. "Your read on me is so stupid a wolf would be embarrassed to give that read publicly."

The mindset behind this post feels like you're trying to intimidate a light scumread on you by insulting their intelligence.

Smfh. I'll let you read up and see that I was being genuine with that town read.
It wasn't about being stupid, it was about whether the read defensible. I do think it was a bad read, but that's because I'd be comfortable screaming I'M A WOLF I'M A WOLF I'M A WOLF in thread and definitely wouldn't worry about caps. But that isn't the point.

The point is that I don't think a wolf would take a read that they self acknowledge is indefensible and cite it as their only read. I think most wolves would look for something that they could push on, but bug instead chose to point out something that seemed like it genuinely bothered them in the moment.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

I told you it was a stretch, what irked you so much about my self-declared weak take? lol

goddamn I'm good pt.2

[ShadoWolfe]

Look, keep scum reading if you want to and twisting whatever you want to twist. All I ask is that you take the same passion you seem to have for me rn and apply it to everyone else as well, preferably well before EoD.

Also congrats on 24hrs. My record is only 14

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Smfh. I'll let you read up and see that I was being genuine with that town read.
It wasn't about being stupid, it was about whether the read defensible. I do think it was a bad read, but that's because I'd be comfortable screaming I'M A WOLF I'M A WOLF I'M A WOLF in thread and definitely wouldn't worry about caps. But that isn't the point.

The point is that I don't think a wolf would take a read that they self acknowledge is indefensible and cite it as their only read. I think most wolves would look for something that they could push on, but bug instead chose to point out something that seemed like it genuinely bothered them in the moment.

I'm reading intentionality behind posts, first and foremost

Wolves can post logically; towns can post wolfily

The explanation you give here is plausible from a point of logic, but when reading the post in question, I kept wondering "what headspace was this person in when they wrote it?"

It's not that I don't understand "the logic" behind what you said, it's that I don't think "the logic" is the primary intention to that post.

At any rate, I still have 8 pages left so I'll try to focus on higher-level observations for now

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Look, keep scum reading if you want to and twisting whatever you want to twist. All I ask is that you take the same passion you seem to have for me rn and apply it to everyone else as well, preferably well before EoD.

Also congrats on 24hrs. My record is only 14

maybe it feels this way because you're the object of discussion, but I'm not actually committed to you being a wolf, and I'm definitely not "passionate" about it either. I only commented on 2 of your posts

FFA made a similar comment earlier, but this is definitely not tunneling. The world will know when I decide to tunnel

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

I was going to keep quoting myself but I think I did that during the turbo and I don't want to reuse old wolf techniques

gotta shake it up!!

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

this doesn't address the core argument levied by star-crossed, it's more like a deflection

i.e. "I'd like to hear from this person" isn't related to "he usually fucks around d0 anyways"; if anything, it's the opposite

kinda weird interpretation of this interaction from bugbert

tell me what i'm missing, because i reread this interaction and i still don't find my response that odd.

i can definitely hear what star is saying, i was just trying to offer somewhat of an explanation for lewdy's behavior based on what i've seen from him. he usually talks a lot and says little, so i don't really understand what star's point was here. is she saying his behavior is suspicious? if so i stand by my statement. is she saying he is being unhelpful? well yeah obviously lol

i think i semi-understand where you're coming from, but i think what it boils down to is that me and star are actually looking at different things here, which is my bad for conflating the two, but that still doesn't mean my statement was "incorrect"

that being said, the longer lewdy isn't here the more he rises on my sus-o-meter 3000

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm reading intentionality behind posts, first and foremost

Wolves can post logically; towns can post wolfily

The explanation you give here is plausible from a point of logic, but when reading the post in question, I kept wondering "what headspace was this person in when they wrote it?"

It's not that I don't understand "the logic" behind what you said, it's that I don't think "the logic" is the primary intention to that post.

At any rate, I still have 8 pages left so I'll try to focus on higher-level observations for now

Nah I think you'd see the intentionality by now if you hadn't reacted emotionally.
I think you saw the part about it being bad and got upset and felt I was being mean or condescending or bullying or something and then voted me from an irate or emotional state. Now you're calm and trying to justify it logically but the vote spoke for itself

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

maybe it feels this way because you're the object of discussion, but I'm not actually committed to you being a wolf, and I'm definitely not "passionate" about it either. I only commented on 2 of your posts

FFA made a similar comment earlier, but this is definitely not tunneling. The world will know when I decide to tunnel

Say what you like fam you double voted me lmao I've only ever seen that a couple times.
Again you might be calm now but it certainly looked like you had a hard on

Anyway we'll talk when you catch up yo see if you have the same thoughts then.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Nah I think you'd see the intentionality by now if you hadn't reacted emotionally.
I think you saw the part about it being bad and got upset and felt I was being mean or condescending or bullying or something and then voted me from an irate or emotional state. Now you're calm and trying to justify it logically but the vote spoke for itself

i can say with full confidence, that is not what is going on here. backpack doesn't care about "protecting me" during twg at all, and he shouldn't. if he votes, that means he earnestly believes it's the right decision (from a wolf or a town perspective which is yet to be seen ofc)

[DaBackpack]

my boyfriend status is keeping me from thinking rationally, huh.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

my boyfriend status is keeping me from thinking rationally, huh.

get a real job

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

i can say with full confidence, that is not what is going on here. backpack doesn't care about "protecting me" during twg at all, and he shouldn't. if he votes, that means he earnestly believes it's the right decision (from a wolf or a town perspective which is yet to be seen ofc)

Noted, thank you. That's in line with what I'd expect from him but he's not acting how I'd expect from him right now

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Say what you like fam you double voted me lmao I've only ever seen that a couple times.

I x-vote all the time, usually to broadcast to everyone that I want them to pay attention

it was 24 hours of absence, I voted again to reaffirm that suspicion

anyway I need to focus

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

DaBackpack, I think this is the post of ShadoWolfe's that I feel like would be most difficult to make as a wolf. Do you have any thoughts on this?

reads as a null signal atm

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

It's really cool and parasites are weird. Look into it but then beware of the existential crisis that comes with knowing that some of your actions are probably caused by some parasites messing with your brain.

@bugkid

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

my boyfriend status is keeping me from thinking rationally, huh.

Hahaha sorry sorry, to be fair the vote confuses me and I can't get behind your explanation because it inherently twists my post and mindset and intention to something that's completely opposed to reality, so I thought emotion could explain it

but anyway do your thing n focus

[bugkid666]

if literally nothing else changes (unlikely), i think my vote will go to xel tonight. i was already a bit weary of his behavior but his response to me and haku "ganging up on him" (wrong) was really strange.
not that he's not usually aggressive, but... idk. somethin feels weird, his mood keeps taking dramatic shifts and usually he's pretty one-note for a while.

i think i need to stop tone reading but idk what else to do rn.

[bugkid666]

edit: this is under the guise of zenith actually making more than one post. i also think lynching inactives is good, because people who do not talk do not help town. if one more damn person says that lynching inactives is wolfy i'm gonna riot

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm bored decided to associate concerns with reads. I'll develop if there's things you guys don't understand.

I'm concerned that mellon_collie has no post that helps me read her or anyone. The only noticeable thing is the friendliness with Shadow God and that's cool and all. It's just that clock is ticking and if you flipped D0, no one would have a clue what you liked/didn't like. I'm not gonna be a bit meanie and ask for reads 10 pages in with nothing going on, but if I could have a pulse or where the vibes are at, I'd be super happy.

I'll skip being concerned about Zenith, 'cause 0 post. It's just a reminder that the slot exist.

I'm actually not concerned about Shadow God because I'm seeing the exact same posts/concerns/thought process as he does in his town games and I cannot picture him ever wolfing this at this point.

I'm concerned about FFA in relation to myself and also in relation to Star-crossed because you've been doing some hyper focus stuff that is a little early. The DBP vote is spicy tho. It looks more interesting to me than the ShadoWolfe wagon. Unfortunately, I have nothing making me lean DBP wolf specifically. I can see why DBP would vote ShadoWolfe and he could be right, but I feel more strongly about ShadoWolfe being town than where the waves are trying to push. I'm having a bad time putting myself in your shoes, but it's cool to see some takes. I think if you explained your own takes it would help me with alignment.

I'm concerned about WV because I am certainly flipping a coin over one thing. I'm town reading the guy over "investigative mentality", but I need to be careful about the "how" he does it. I think if you switch between posting short posts and making more lengthy ones to explain in depth your stance, It'd be easier to secure a town read. I do think you're primarily town, but I wasn't fan of your first post and how you had to joke about blue roles etc. I wouldn't put it past you to be the active wolf in this game, but maybe you just like bringing positive energy in the thread which is obviously very good. It's just that fun guys aren't always good guys in this game. Still town tho.

My only real concern with Star-crossed is if the entire gameplay is centered around finding one target and sticking to it rather than exploring what everyone has to say. I do think the attitude is generally pro-town, but I'm more used to see town Star-crossed playing more relax and just showering thoughts rather than being more investigative. It could just be a playstyle preference for this game at the moment.

So, I'm currently heavily interested in FFA/Star. I'm pretty sure I overlook something tho. I tend to town read how Star is posting, but it would make so much sense to me if reasons had to do with FFA W/W.

I tone read bugkid/Xel, but it's mostly sentence association with older games rather than calculating if intentions are real or not. tldr; gut town

DBP I'll just hold back a bit more and see how things goes. I'll just say null for now.

this is not a good look because it almost entirely is the opposite of my thoughts atm. (sort of?? I don't actually know what haku actually believes; this post gives no real concrete impressions). He's drawing attention to things that I don't really care about or find all that suspicious, at least.

he's also doing that wishy-washy self-contradictory thing again, for example:

So, I'm currently heavily interested in FFA/Star. I'm pretty sure I overlook something tho. I tend to town read how Star is posting, but it would make so much sense to me if reasons had to do with FFA W/W.

"I'm really interested and concerned about star, even though I think she's town."
"I'm really concerned about WV, but he's town."

???

haku what are you actually thinking now?