06-26-2012, 06:14 PM | #41 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
idk know about that
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
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06-26-2012, 06:17 PM | #43 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
I only use 3.95 cause of stepmania glass this is probably my only reason. I used SM5 for a good period of time because it supported HD which was great, only problem was my timing seemed to suffer a significant drop which i wasn't too happy with. So i just want back to 3.95
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
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06-26-2012, 06:27 PM | #46 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
^ Listen to this man.
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06-26-2012, 06:32 PM | #47 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
This.
I'd rather look in the editor and see just one bpm playing through the whole file or portions of the file. Not all the +/- ~.01 interval shit.
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
wow I didn't realize there was so much h8 for ddreamage. I've never noticed that stuff. if I ever step a totally tempo-wavery song I'm definitely gonna use it. tried syncing by hand/ear multiples times, but I'm completely incapable.
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06-26-2012, 09:06 PM | #50 |
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06-26-2012, 09:11 PM | #51 |
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06-26-2012, 09:14 PM | #52 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
I have many crashes. In fact. I haven't been able to play a single song because of it.
Imma just leave it there for a while longer until I feel like making it work or smth.
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06-27-2012, 03:04 AM | #53 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
I'm actually just mad at ddream i'm not being completely serious
but in some cases the fact that people are meticulously taking apart every single sound and beat from the song causes the person to lose track of what the song is actually offering in terms of accents and it just turns out being a technical dump. you're no longer playing the song, you're playing the notes. if you're syncing a song that doesn't have static bpm, that's fine to use it to sync. if you're using a static bpm, there's really no point and seeing a bpm change every 4th note is really dumb and actually causes each note to drift slightly which is ever so frustrating.
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06-27-2012, 04:59 AM | #54 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
I'm just going to throw this in here
but you guys do know that 3.95 is known as the most unstable version of stepmania ever made, like you guys only use like 10% of the actual program so you dont really see it, but a load of shit related to smo, theming, noteskins and the list goes on and on is bugged in 3.95, like I got every single version of stepmania and I like to try out shit now and then in those versions, the most unstable version I have ever played with is 3.95 and thats really not a joke.
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06-27-2012, 09:07 AM | #55 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
My comp just can't handle SM5. Which is both sad and retarded.
Although 3.95 has a bunch of bugs n shit, as long as you're not actually exploring every nook and cranny of the program, it's fine. I don't see any reason to switch. Whatever works for the person.
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06-27-2012, 09:55 AM | #56 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
If someone is just starting out DDream or stepping, then the 192nd meticulous sync/snap becomes an issue. Perhaps some tryouts with the SM editor beforehand prior to using DDream might help
However, once you understand the basics in a song structure and stepping, DDream is a real ddream to use. To me its more intuitive, quicker to use and sync, even for static bpm songs; being able to pause/start any part of the song on the fly. (personally, I step just by visual/own judgement in ddream for an hour or two, then playtest in sm afterwards) As long as you don't sync every single note to 192nds, it can be a very handy program. Its just really messy when abused, I agree ps to each their own ofcourse. Though I can see why people who step in sm editor have a "better sense" of what works and what doesn't pps I'm personally biased to ddream because of the ease of using subbeats to colour notes rofl |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
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re: some of the general issues: Themes: I maintain a list of SM5 themes at http://sm.ajworld.net/themes/; it might be possible you'll find something you like in there, but if you're expecting a bunch of old 3.9/3.95 theme ports, you'll end up disappointed. Editor: Surprise! Any developer not named "Wolfman2000" hates the current state of the editor. The plan is for the original sm-ssc devs to make an external editor (currently named noscope) that surpasses the internal editor. (You'd have to ask shakesoda for more details, though.) sm-ssc: it's done; it's no longer being maintained. this is coming from the person who invented the fork. if you still use it, I'm not responsible if things start to not work. .ssc format: I initially proposed this as .msd5 (msd, dwi1, dwi2, sm, this), but it was renamed to .ssc. The format was meant to be a stopgap, but nothing else has come up. It's not the best format for the job; it was made to be easy to reuse the NotesLoader/WriterSM code. Still not sure what the future holds for this. Alright, on to the posts: Quote:
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If you have been editing Preferences.ini to do this, then we have a problem and it should be reported on the bugtracker.
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06-27-2012, 11:27 AM | #58 |
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
when I use any theme other than 3.9/3.95 my MA dies
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It isn't the fault of the players if they have reasons for sticking to old versions. The problem lies in what is available in the new versions, maybe there is something lacking and that hasn't been worked on while the older version never had problem with that ? Or maybe a new version wasn't ultimately needed ? Or maybe the player just never necessitated a brand new version and it'd have been probably better if these guys just made an update, adding new functionalities and all. There are old versions that are fully functionals and people stick to it because the interface is full of benchmarks for them, and never failed them ; the problem of new stepmania versions is how they change the interface and the benchmarks while NOBODY ever wished for that (new theme mechanics are a good example), it's almost as they redid things from scratch. I think necessitating a minimal number of changes and focusing and what has to change would be a good way to incitate people to move onto the next version. You need more than good intentions and generosity to have proper feedbacks. If what you worked on doesn't fulfill some necessities, you can't blame the players for that. The community as a whole shall owe these guys something, but the individual players composing the group just owe nothing to nobody. As for me, I stick to 3.9 because it fulfills everything I need for stepmania, I don't have the need to play online, and, above all, the theme I use wouldn't be compatible with the new versions. If there is a working theme converter, then I would probably change. But it looks like there are other things that change, as for the editor. And I don't really want to switch my benchmarks, because I know how it would dissatisfy me to make new simfiles.
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Re: Why are people hanging on to 3.9/3.95?
This
and last time I downloaded sm5, I opened it and it crashed my computer right away (i tried 3 times before saying screw it) before that my biggest problem was that sm5 loads songs 9x slower than sm 3.95/3.9, I already barely play sm now because of how long it takes to load my songs.
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