TWG XIV - Michigan Meetup - Day 6 - HUMAN VICTORY

[talisman]

Ok... with this little to talk about, I'm left thinking too hard and pretty much majorly overanalyzing the situation. For example, I caught myself thinking just a minute ago about whether or not a wolf would respond to the news that their target had been guarded by acting happy and blending in with the other humans, or sitting back for a few pages until the excitement had died down before posting. Then I realized how pointless and prone to error such a line of reasoning was.

Anyways, it was mentioned in the chat that the seer and the guardian haven't contacted tass yet. Wtf? The chances that he is a wolf are slim to none. Perhaps blahblah's reticence is wearing off on people.

The votes on nforcer I can understand; a few of his first posts did seem a little off, but I'm not sure if that necessarily makes him a wolf.

Just my ideas so far.

[Tasselfoot]

Hehe.... Hun, why do you say that no one has contacted me? Have I mentioned one word to you about whether they have or haven't?

In fact, I've kept that information rather private.... don't think anyone knows whether or not anyone has contacted me regarding their role, except save if someone DID contact me, then they know... or if multiple people contacted me, then they likely know each other, etc etc...

While I'm very willing to be open about alot of things, some things are best kept private. It will keep someone alive longer if everyone is in the dark about who has contacted me.

Mystery people, mystery.

[lightdarkness]

Nforcer (2) - Chardish, Mead
Gamepro (1) - Nforcer

23 hoursish

[JenovaSephiroth]

I don't post a lot because I only post when I've found something, or if someone accuses me of something. I am online almost ALL THE TIME, but I only post when it is necessary. Do not think of me as inactive.

[blahblah18]

Tass, it was mostly spurred by a convo I had with Chardish, and there either was or wasn't a misunderstanding, but I actually saved a convo, because there's something weird about the whole thing, and I want to read it again soon.

[lightdarkness]

13 haven't voted

Don't make me get out the Phantom Stick.

[QreepyBORIS]

I am placing a safety vote on nforcer, because he is my best bet as of now.

Also worth looking into is whoever FIRST voted for him.

[whorlichan]

Qreepy--it was Chardish who first voted for nforcer. I have no suspicions on him, but with all your comments in chat about being a "just a useless human" so that you don't have to put any real effort in, I begin to worry. Plus, how would you know I'm a confirmed human? Even Tass doesn't believe me as of yet.

[Kilgamayan]

Originally Posted by lightdarkness

Don't make me get out the Phantom Stick.

We still have 20.5 hours, don't be so impatient. :p

[talisman]

Hans and I had an interesting discussion in the chat about how nforcer's attitude sort of changed after he got a vote on him. At first, he seemed kind of jumpy... calling whorli suspicious for very little reason at all and then turning around and being extra eager to help tass out with his [nforcer's] third (I think) post. Then he gets a couple votes and he's alot more subdued.

However, reading too far into a small change in behavior like that could be dangerous, so I'm not going to vote for him right now. But if push comes to shove and nothing has happened by tomorrow, I will consider it.

For now I'm going to put a meaningless vote on flux just to avoid a phantom in case something comes up and I don't get to the comp before seven. Also, I want to see him post.

[Tasselfoot]

Guys... these meaningless votes are complete bullsh-t. I posted what I found on every single person, you have talked to multiple people yourselves. You should be able to make SOME slightly educated guess as to who MIGHT be a wolf. Yes, there is very little to go on. That is why you all have to be proactive and start talking to each other. The more information that is gathered, the more we can find, maybe find an error in what someone said to 2 people.

Also, if ANY of you gets a phantom, I swear to god.... You will not make Tass a happy boy. So, yes, I'm glad some of you are voting to ensure you don't get a phantom, but at the same time, the vote is about as helpful as sticking your finger up your as$ and then smelling it.

[HansSky]

Sorry I haven't posted at all, but you guys should know by now that I usually play this game through AIM. I'll make a few posts about my findings, and a post to vote(of course), but other than that, I don't post too much. For further proof, check my post count. Alright, now check my join date. Good job.

Ok, now onto relevant stuff. One thing I found was that I won't be here by 7, but I'll be here by 6:30, at the latest. So I need to place a vote before then, simple enough.

Sorry nforcer, but I've had my eye on you since this game started. With you accusing Whorli, contradicting yourself, I really don't know what to say. This is the post that really stuck out to me:

Yeah, I'll back you up on that. All special roles, make sure you contact Tass and let him know who you are. If you don't, a wolf may very likely slip themselves (falsely, of course) into an alliance. Please, don't let that happen.

Yeah, sure. Tass asked someone to back him up. But talisman had a good word with how that post came off: eager. To me, it seemed like there was a chance for human points, and you jumped on that oppurtunity. That last part about wolves falsely slipping themselves in an alliance...meh, I don't think they would take that risk. HOWEVER, many people have already placed a vote on you already, and I'm not about to do the same. If any more people tag on, and you're human, there's bound to be a wolf or two in the bunch. So I'm going to hold off for now, and vote later. That will likely be last minute, or for me, 6:30.

[nforcer06164]

All of you that voted for me or are thinking of voting for me... are you really that dense? Did you even read my last post? I was NEVER suspicious of Tass. I was pointing out possibilities, and in this case, I didn't even agree with it. I was merely throwing it out in the open. Blah is actually firm in believing Tass has a good chance of being a wolf. If thinking Tass is a wolf (which I don't) is a crime, then why am I getting all the votes AND suspicion? Even Whorli, the first person I deemed as circumstantially suspicious, doesn't have a problem with what I said.

You guys are going to lynch me first day for the SECOND time in a row over ignorance. You all need to go back and read what I said, and rethink your suspicions, because the last thing you need right now is to lynch a human because you're not paying close enough attention to what is being said.

[alainbryden]

My vote today goes out to whorlichan.

- For saying obvious things that have the soul purpose of driving the idea that she is on the human side.

Originally Posted by Whorlichan

And I sincerely do not recommend wasting a seeing on him anyways. Go guardian, whoever you are.

In the unlikely event that Tass wasn't seen on night one, it is highly unnecessary for him to now be seen night two, this is evident. Whorlichan is giving support for an idea where none is needed. I view this as an attempt to appear more human where this is needed. (It turns out just because she said this, people questioned the concept of not needing to see Tass, but they are just retarded.)

- For voting Qreepy solely because he openly expressed that he felt useless in the game as Tass was so in charge.

Originally Posted by Whorlichan

I have no suspicions on him, but...

but nothing. You do not vote a person for whom you have no suspicion. Perhaps there is a case where you feel you need to get someone's attention, but never by simply voting for them, especially if you consciously decide that you have no suspicions.

-For being complacent.
You have made elaborate attempts to stay on everyone's good side. You have said several things, agreed with people, stated opinion, and taken it back instantly at the slightest evidence of disagreement from fellow humans. Your ideas have carried little if any conviction because of your strive to not rub anyone the wrong way. Well this is precisely what triggers my suspicions.

Case and point.

[whorlichan]

alain: that quote on no suspicions refers to Chardish, who was the first to vote for nforcer. Re-read both Qreepy's and my post please.

And when did I take anything back? Can I have some evidence please?

[Kilgamayan]

I'm going to vote for blah because he was serious in suggesting that Tass tried an alain.

Knowing Tass, he would never risk his own life like that this early in the game not knowing who the guardian is, much less who they were guarding. And apparently they didn't contact him beforehand because if they did they would likely have spoken up by now since Tass claimed they didn't, and what reason does he have to lie about something like that if he's human? It wouldn't help the wolves any in identifying the guardian.

blah also seems a possible candidate for (a) taking charge of a wolf group and (b) having enough balls to try to kill Tass Night 1 with the guardian threat looming over him. I don't like this reason as much since the same applies to alain, as well as a few others (even myself depending on who else gets drawn).

I apologize for how lacking these reasons are, but with less than 4 pages of posts and having talked to nearly no one on AIM I don't have much to work with. =\

[Kilgamayan]

Kilga's guide to satisfying his own curiosity:

nforcer: 3 (chardish, mead, Qreepy)
Gamepro: 1 (nforcer)
Qreepy: 1 (whorli)
Flux: 1 (talisman)
whorli: 1 (alain)
blah: 1 (Kilga)

Still to vote: blah, Gamepro, Guido, Hans, Jenova, Kefit, Tass

Still to post: Flux (I'll get on his ass immediately)

[Rebirth0]

We have 3 hours left, and I'm leaving soon so I don't have much time to find something to go with.

Gamepro17616 to avoid phantom, I might get a chance to change the vote.

[whorlichan]

I thought self-voting was not allowed?

[lightdarkness]

Originally Posted by whorlichan

I thought self-voting was not allowed?

Tass said it was a TWC rule. Several TWC members said they didn't remember voting on it. Regardless, I don't care. However, if you do it excessivly, then i'll yell at you.