TWG CXX: Villains United

[TWG Yzma]

Also Maleficent, as sure as we are about Auto based on his actions, we don't have confirmation yet

Also I think Auto put Hades on his list at some time, but he obviously didn't push that

I don't think that necessarily incriminates Gaston but he needs to show up

[TWG Charles Muntz]

Originally Posted by Yzma

You got my suspicions on Jafar, I'm against Randall because of how popular he was for a shooting choice, if that makes sense

That's what I was missing actually about Randall, he's the safest pick there which kind of tells a lot. And no I don't have your suspicions, all I have is this:

Originally Posted by Yzma

Oh that list I would choose between Randall And Jafar, those are gut feelings without looking back though

I mean, really?

Originally Posted by Jafar

I just got back.

My b Jafar I didn't catch that, it still stands though that I feel you've been on the protective side. Considering Gaston more and I might even go as far as Randall or Hopper. For now, consider both of you on the line, I just don't want to go

[TWG The Queen]

hey guys, i dont see what makes gaston or jafar a good kill but i wouldnt kill from the list of inactives at all. with inactives u either kill them all early or put them off for later and try to solve by poe, right? not really getting what a shot in the dark at one of them does instead of resolving a major lynch target, but its kinda late for me to be arguing this if a shot happens

[TWG Yzma]

You made a short list of reasons in one of your posts which I agreed with and couldn't think of anything to add, that's what I was going for

I've had time to reread things since "gut feelings"


Anyway, I'm going to reread something then make another post soon

[TWG The Queen]

from pretty early d2

Originally Posted by Xiz

Vote Count: (10 to insta)




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i mean after hades flips hero why would we kill gaston next

[TWG Hopper]

I haven't been home since Friday; sorry for taking so long. I'm just double checking some posts on here, and then I'll add my thoughts.

[TWG The Queen]

jafar on cruella moments before the hades flip

Originally Posted by TWG Jafar

Was toying with her being a hero at the beginning of the phase, and started to press, but she did correct me on some points I was wrong about in my own reasoning.

Have been neutral on her since, but If Hades is also Villa I'm going to be toying with her being a Hero again.

i dont think its easy for a hero to fake that level of uncertainty right after voting to lynch hades

[TWG The Queen]

gaston and jafar both look villa to me, i would shoot elsewhere but im not the man with the golden gun. if ur not going to shoot a top wagon charles then u should just shoot who u wanna shoot

[TWG Darla]

Originally Posted by TWG Auto

Nope, haven't posted yet because with Charles' kill imminent, I know nothing I say right now will have any value once the kill happens.

Also, according to most of the players in this game so far, every word out of my mouth so far this game has been BS.

Ugh...

[TWG The Queen]

[TWG Hopper]

So, with Hades being a hero, I'm back on Auto again. Gantu summed it up perfectly in one of his posts that Hades had continuously said that he wanted to go for Hook to clear Auto, but then when Hook was off the table, he didn't make that push onto Auto. Something holds him back here. Hades jumps onto the Auto lynch, but doesn't want to be the one to initiate it. I think he knew that people were on board for it, but he didn't want to start it because it would gain momentum.

There was also that post where Hades voted for Shere Khan, and then Auto quickly votes him as well. It looks like Auto is just following Hades' lead here. I kind of wonder if Hades told Auto during night chat that he'd try to clear him on Day 2, so Auto just followed what Hades did. It would explain them both showing "suspicions" of one another, but not actually acting on them, (trying to distance themselves.)

Basically, Auto just gets more suspicious with Hades flip, and his defeated behaviour today makes me think he's trying to gain our sympathy.

Ps, what's the current vote count?

[TWG Yzma]

Charles who are you thinking of shooting, i want to address something before you do

[TWG Jafar]

Originally Posted by TWG Charles Muntz

Randall
Jafar
Hopper
Shere
Gaston

I don't like this list.

Randall dying doesn't really give us anything. If he's a Hero, great, but we don't get anything from it.

I'm Villa

Hopper has read villa to me, clayton did too.

Shere has the same problem ad Randall

Gaston is an okay shot I guess, but it still feels like a shot in the dark, because connections to him are weak.


The Queen is right, we should process of elimination the players out of this "inactive" pool (I have ~65 posts and I'm inactive)?


I would shoot Auto.
I'm starting to think about shooting Maleficent.

[TWG Jafar]

Also going to Taco bell real fast.

[TWG Yzma]

so much of this clusterfuck of information revolves around Auto, it's seriously getting in the way

can we not do the inactives thing and get Auto?

[TWG Jafar]

Personal Opinions at this exact moment before I leave for taco bell. Will be back in 30 mins.


Red = Really think town
Orange = leaning town
Gold = unsure
green=thinking hero

1) TWG Auto
2) TWG Captain Hook
3) TWG Hopper
5) TWG Darla
6) TWG Gantu
7) TWG Gaston
9) TWG Jafar
10) TWG Maleficent
12) TWG Randall Boggs
13) TWG Charlez Muntz
15) TWG Shere Khan
16) TWG Sid Phillips
17) TWG Syndrome
18) TWG The Queen
19) TWG Ursula
20) TWG Yzma

[TWG Charles Muntz]

Originally Posted by TWG Yzma

Charles who are you thinking of shooting, i want to address something before you do

Jafar doesn't really all defend himself rather than explaining his absence doesn't merit his place on the list but he's kind of right there. If anything my reasoning behind it is more subjective than anything. I'll be going Gaston because he's a recent point of convergence being the most controversial.
The Queen, if anything all this fuss comes down to it's "why vigis usually play by themselves".

[TWG The Queen]

more like usually play with themselves #MasturbationJokes

[TWG Hopper]

I'm really on the fence about shooting an inactive player. I understand that on one hand, they aren't contributing and it's better to remove someone who hasn't participated over someone who is active, but I feel it's a bit... unfair almost? Since a few of those listed were either away, (myself included,) or haven't checked back much and likely won't show up to defend themselves. I mean, if we're worried about activity levels on some players, maybe they should be replaced instead, (assuming Xiz can find anyone else.)
Randall hasn't been here since day 1 I think. Shere Khan popped in like, once or twice. Jafar was away. I was away. Gaston I really have no idea with.

I guess if I had to pick someone on that list, I'd say Shere Khan because of how he asked to not be bothered by anyone and said he planned to remain UTR.

[TWG Yzma]

I've had this post copied for a while in case you'd say that
Read this first and see what you think

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If it's going to come down to a Gaston kill, I want to say this since he can't defend himself

At first, I didn't want to target Gaston because he was the one who suggested yesterday that we turn our attention towards the more vocal members of our group. At the time, I thought he was a cop. I thought he was subtly trying to steer us in the right direction with Hades (or someone else?). Even on Day 0, he's been prodding the inactives to speak so he could get leads. If he's a cop, he hasn't been wanting to get attention on himself by not posting and not acting as a threat. But he's been there gathering info to drive us in the right direction.

Originally Posted by TWG Gaston

tldr; one of the wolves is probably one of you who is keeping in the discussion heavily.

Notice his use of the expression "one of you"

However. After looking back over all of his posts.
A cop would have done a much better job, like calling out someone specifically in that same post. ("What do you think, Hades?") And after that post, he made a bunch of prodding posts towards Auto. Yes, Auto is suspicious, but he contradicts himself entirely in the same round. Does not try to follow his own instructions.

Originally Posted by TWG Gaston

Oh, wow.

If he was specifically talking about Hades, then this shouldn't have been a surprise. There's the chance that he would have been talking about another vocal hero, but why keep voting for Auto instead of actually being useful and continuing your previous line of reasoning?
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So there you have it, I disagree with a Gaston lynch because I think it's possible he's a blue and would like to hear from him about that first. In the end, I'm not sure about his alignment.
I think an Auto kill would be much safer use of the gun and avoid the inactives strategy.

that's all, follow your heart