TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I brought it up earlier, and yes Tokzic hasn't mentioned receiving a message saying he was painted or not (we went under the assumption he was from my confirmation and his role claim). I did not get "painted" for tracking a wolf, I got "painted" from a wolf period.

I wanted Tokzic to say whether or not he did receive a message about possibly being "painted" because it would prove if RB's seering is true or false.

If Tokzic says he didn't get a message, he confirms himself as a wolf and town will more than likely win by lynching Blind and Tokzic.

On the subject of Zenith v Blind, here is what town would receive by lynching one of us:

By lynching Blind, we receive a total of 5 phases where we could mislynch to narrow down who is the last wolf (But remember that would only happen if Tokzic isn't a wolf).

By lynching Zenith, we lose a phase. This is under the assumption that the night kill happens and another town dies, thus being 4 town 2 wolves with only one phase to solve it in.

By lynching me, we lose a phase, and you're one step closer to winning. I'm not a Fucking wolf.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

By lynching me, we gain several phases, and town is one step closer to winning. I'm a Fucking wolf.

Fixed.

[roundbox]

Floor Affinity Votes

White (1) - blind
Black (5) - Tokzic, Zenith, DaBackpack, ben, Charu

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Fixed.

You are literally more annoying than Xel.

[blindreper1179]

Also, it's still going to be white in case of a tie right?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

You are literally more annoying than Xel.

It's these kinds of posts that do not help you in any manner.

[blindreper1179]

I don't give two fucks.

[blindreper1179]

You being an unbearable cunt doesn't help you either.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I wanted Tokzic to say whether or not he did receive a message about possibly being "painted" because it would prove if RB's seering is true or false.

If Tokzic says he didn't get a message, he confirms himself as a wolf and town will more than likely win by lynching Blind and Tokzic.

ok the more i read this, the less sense it makes

You're saying that there's a wolf who "paints" people to mess with Seerings and that you got a notification saying you were painted. Okay. I get that.

But why in the fuck would I keep that information secret? After getting Seered red, why would that not be the first thing out of my mouth, instead of, you know, fucking outing my role?

And why do you think claiming I got that message would clear me, and failing to do so confirms me red? If I were in your shoes I would think quite the opposite. If a guy who got Seered red suddenly said three days later "OH BY THE WAY I DID GET A MESSAGE SAYING I GOT PAINTED MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS IT LOL!" I would find them suspicious as fuck, I wouldn't fucking clear them.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Ok, I remember that I did want curry to die, but I wasn't doing to lynch him.

blind wants choof dead > choof gets wolfed
blind wants curry dead > curry gets wolfed

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

ok the more i read this, the less sense it makes

You're saying that there's a wolf who "paints" people to mess with Seerings and that you got a notification saying you were painted. Okay. I get that.

But why in the fuck would I keep that information secret? After getting Seered red, why would that not be the first thing out of my mouth, instead of, you know, fucking outing my role?

And why do you think claiming I got that message would clear me, and failing to do so confirms me red? If I were in your shoes I would think quite the opposite. If a guy who got Seered red suddenly said three days later "OH BY THE WAY I DID GET A MESSAGE SAYING I GOT PAINTED MAYBE THAT EXPLAINS IT LOL!" I would find them suspicious as fuck, I wouldn't fucking clear them.

You don't get it.

I didn't keep the information secret (Yes, I hid it until I outed myself and my role), and if you can see I wasn't the one who got seered, you did. I announced that I got a message saying I was "Painted" because it confirms the tampering with seer results being in a wolf-aligned role.

I outed both myself and my knowledge about said wolf role together, so you're partially wrong there.

If you got the message about being "Painted" it would confirm that RB's seering result on you was false (He claimed you are Red), which would clear you as not a wolf. Since you heavily imply you did not receive such message, it would mean RB's seering result on you was true, and that means your Guardian claim is false and you are a wolf.

[Tokzic]

ok i was hoping that looking on this game with fresh eyes would make this decision easier

nope still fucking hard

really wish some of our inactives would share their reads so i could connect all the dots and have any conviction about anything whatsoever

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

If you got the message about being "Painted" it would confirm that RB's seering result on you was false (He claimed you are Red), which would clear you as not a wolf. Since you heavily imply you did not receive such message, it would mean RB's seering result on you was true, and that means your Guardian claim is false and you are a wolf.

or

Originally Posted by Tokzic

One of the Things That Is Going On

- Red Blaster is red and faking Seering results.
- Red Blaster is third party and faking Seering results.
- Red Blaster's claim was real but there is a red role that tampers with Seering results.
- Red Blaster's claim was real but he is not sane.
- Red Blaster's claim was real but he was lying about his Seering.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

blind wants choof dead > choof gets wolfed
blind wants curry dead > curry gets wolfed

Yup. You got it. Even I wouldn't make myself that obvious if I was a wolf. I'm not gonna sit there all Fucking day phase just to be like "oh, they wouldn't listen, so I'll just wolf them instead."

Also, if you look, I didn't try, not once, to lynch curry. I doubted everything about him but still went at zenith. And now zenith is on me. Hmmmmmm......

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

zenith

This was after conversing with curry explaining why I didn't believe him.

[DaBackpack]

I think we're on the same side, but I want to hammer out some details

1.) You tracked TPS by accident. What did this response say? (roughly obviously) Ignoring the painting business.

2.) If you're asserting that your tracking was tampered with, how do you know that TPS didn't do something else in the night? Are you SURE that "painting" means "tampering"? Could it mean something else?

[DaBackpack]

I don't understand how you can simultaneously have confidence in your result AND say that YOUR result was tampered with

[DaBackpack]

If you were a seer, sure. You could get a green result, get a painting message, then be assured that he was red.

But was does this mean in the context of a tracker?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I think we're on the same side, but I want to hammer out some details

1.) You tracked TPS by accident. What did this response say? (roughly obviously) Ignoring the painting business.

2.) If you're asserting that your tracking was tampered with, how do you know that TPS didn't do something else in the night? Are you SURE that "painting" means "tampering"? Could it mean something else?

1) Just like if I had picked TPS myself, I received a tracking report from him telling me that his target that night was Jrodd.

2) I'm asserting that IF a seer had chosen me to get a result from the first night, it would be a false one due to the "Painting". I'm insinuating that the "Painting" ability coincides with a role I know from another Mafia Site. With that said, Yes, I am SURE that being painted = faulty result.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

If you were a seer, sure. You could get a green result, get a painting message, then be assured that he was red.

But was does this mean in the context of a tracker?

If someone was painted and I got a tracking result on them, I'm nearly positive I would receive nothing at all instead of a report of who they targeted that night; to distinguish between seer and tracking tampered results.