Osama Bin Laden dead.

[virus003]

Originally Posted by ddrxero64

Also, there was no way of dragging him out alive. It was a gun fight. As said before, they wanted justice and they wanted him, dead or alive. I actually think they would have loved to get him alive, and we wouldn't even know. Why? They'd interrogate him to death or use him to get the other terrosists to come out. The death had to happen, he would've killed himself like Hitler I'm sure.

He wouldn't have killed himself, he would have just kept on hiding, like he always has. Imo the only reason I think they would've wanted him alive is for torture, he deserves it, and quit saying he doesn't, because he does.


I still think Obama is giving himself too much credit for all of this, it's not like he went there and shot Osama in the face or anything, he didn't do half the work.

[ddrxero64]

Originally Posted by virus003

and quit saying he doesn't, because he does.

Where did I say this?

Also, he would have killed himself. He was cornered with a gun. Nowhere to run. He could either:

A) Shoot his way out and hope to escape

B) Get shot in crossfire and die

C) Realize he was outnumbered without getting hit and shoot himself, because he's smarter than to give himself up torture

I'm glad he's dead, but if someone comes here saying death is wrong they'd most likely defend you too

This means that you're attacking someone for saying that death is wrong. Not because it's Osama. I highly doubt this guy is going to think you'd deserve to die if he's complaining about the killing of the world's most wanted man. He doesn't like people killing other people. Period. Just to make sure though

I'm glad he's dead

[virus003]

Uhh didn't he use his wife as sort of a human shield to protect himself like Fidel Castro did in Black ops? That makes a lot of sense considering he was shot in the eye. I was just wanted to clarify this?

[boibomb]

Originally Posted by foilman8805

this is news, but it'll be more shocking when everyone realizes 9/11 was an inside job lol

+1

[Patricoo]

Originally Posted by virus003

Uhh didn't he use his wife as sort of a human shield to protect himself like Fidel Castro did in Black ops? That makes a lot of sense considering he was shot in the eye. I was just wanted to clarify this?

It was some woman so far unidentified. (Probably a wife of someone) and someone else was using her as a human shield. Also killed was a courier who unknowingly lead CIA to the compound, his brother, and supposedly Osama's son.

NYT has a wonderful story on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/wo...agewanted=4&hp

One of Bin Laden’s wives identified his body, American officials said. A picture taken by a Seals commando and processed through facial recognition software suggested a 95 percent certainty that it was Bin Laden. Later, DNA tests comparing samples with relatives found a 99.9 percent match.....

....The Obama administration had already determined it would follow Islamic tradition of burial within 24 hours to avoid offending devout Muslims, yet concluded Bin Laden would have to be buried at sea, since no country would be willing to take the body. Moreover, they did not want to create a shrine for his followers.

So the Qaeda leader’s body was washed and placed in a white sheet in keeping with tradition. On the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson, it was placed in a weighted bag as an officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker, according to the senior Pentagon official.

The body then was placed on a prepared flat board and eased into the sea. Only a small group of people watching from one of the large elevator platforms that move aircraft up to the flight deck were witness to the end of America’s most wanted fugitive.

[Without A Contraceptive]

Originally Posted by Calcium Deposit

Enforcing a no fly-zone and preventing another dictator from ruthlessly killing his own citizens

i guess it would only start more controversy to point out the dictators america has Put into other countries in the past, but - oops.

i am glad that du can do no more evil... but for real tho celebrating anyone's death is sick. all humans deserve to be alive. celebrating death in any form just seems wrong to me

[ddrxero64]

I'm glad they stopped him. If they could have taken him alive it would have been better. They did what they could. I'm not chanting USA though, just saying it's a step in the right direction

[m0de]

[Reach]

I still think Obama is giving himself too much credit for all of this, it's not like he went there and shot Osama in the face or anything, he didn't do half the work.

True

But, by the same logic, Osama didn't fly the planes during 911. He didn't do half the work...!


Which of course brings up the underlying issue; Al-Qaeda is still there, and can continue to function largely without the existence of Bin Laden.


Also, he has to be dead. The government would never risk him being alive and making this kind of announcement. Imagine what Osama would do when he heard? Something as simple as a video announcing the fact he is still alive would cripple the credibility of our government, not to mention piss off Al-Qaeda.

[Izzy]

But all Obama did was say that the U.S was involved in an operation that killed Osama. He wasn't specifically stating that he did anything.

[Reincarnate]

What if Osama left Horcruxes?

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

What if Osama left Horcruxes?

Stop... Everything...

Get hollywood on the phone!

[welsh_girl]

So? someones already stepping into his shoes no doubt.

Nothing changed and the world is hardly safer :/

[DotKritic]

Wash. teacher shaves for first time since Sept. 11

[virus003]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

Wash. teacher shaves for first time since Sept. 11

Lmfao, "I should've given up Watermelon"

[Aldentron]

Originally Posted by Necrophage

I suppose you think we should have wasted even more tax dollars keeping him detained for the rest of his pathetic existence, where he would undoubtedly continue to run his terrorist organization from behind bars, right?

I think we should have used the tax dollars to maintain the shitty streets in my city. I think we should have used the tax dollars to promote alternate energy sources. I think we should have used the tax dollars to build a stronger healthcare program.

After thousands of people died, we spent however many tax dollars just to increase the death count by one. So yeah, a little revenge and a false sense of national security is a total waste in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Without A Contraceptive

i am glad that du can do no more evil... but for real tho celebrating anyone's death is sick. all humans deserve to be alive. celebrating death in any form just seems wrong to me

You should read Stranger in a Strange Place. Although, that celebration calls for different context.

[Artic_counter]

I didnt say he didn't deserved to be punished for what he did. There needed to be a punishement. In this case he had to be shot down since there was no way of capturing him in order to enact said punishement.

Where I have a problem is when you guys yells "U.S.A." really loud like you were a group of uncivilized retards. It's barbaric and serves no purpose. From what you guys say, he deserves to suffer like no one has ever suffered ever since the beginning of time. You call that justice. I call that desecration of human rights. It's simple to understand that if you exclude even a single person from these rights, than the whole thing collapses.

He needed to face the consequences for his acts and he did, but you guys would have been ready to burn him at the stakes or God knows what else. This is unrational and despicable.

and yes I do think it's sickening to celebrate the death of someone. For sure, we can be relieved that things will be better without someone, but to go so far as to be happy from someone death only because of pure hatred is pathetic.

Also, if we were to put aside emotions, culture and all that shit for an instant. I just want you guys to realize that the bombing in Japan during WWII caused WAY more casualties than 9/11. So I think that if everyone had the same mentality as the one you've showed Necrophage, you guys would be in deep shit right now.

[DotKritic]

Just found this: Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been On Ice For Nearly a Decade

A multitude of respected intelligence officials and heads of state have both publicly and privately asserted that Osama has been dead for years.

edit: for those who haven't seen it:

[Oni-Paranoia]

It's sad to see that this whole 9/11 crap is such a giant blur to the public. This just adds to the already large blur of lies and truth.

[Patricoo]

Originally Posted by DotKritic

Just found this: Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been On Ice For Nearly a Decade

Don't ever read anything that tell people to "wake up." Don't ever read anything as news if it has a 'comment here' box. Don't ask questions about the government, then never ask questions about the people asking questions about the government.