World of Warcraft

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by Grandiagod

See I would like melee DPS if every single fight wasn't:

MELEE STACK
MELEE OUT
MELEE RUN AROUND BECAUSE THIS BOSS NEEDS TO BE KITED AROUND THE ROOM

Yeah it's fun to do that but when I can just sit back and press my pew button and top meters I'd rather not go through the hassle.

This is true, but at the same time when I play my kitty drood, I notice that I looks like I'm doing a lot more damage. Just swinging and clawing and mauling non-stop. Much more fun than casting a spell every 2 seconds or so.

I joined a pug for FL25 (which I do every week until we can set up a guild run with people who are geared enough to do it) and some idiot decided to try leaving one tower up. Needless to say, it was too much for a pug to do. Got him down to 8 million / 105 though. There was a group running through old BC dungeons and they got BT and Hyjal done before our FL run was over. But, I got to kill Kael'Thas with them. But... it turns out the guild running the old-dungeon event was the asshole guild who got realm-first on everything and all that. And now I know why everyone calls them assholes. When I joined, I mentioned that I hadn't run BC raids before. Then we died and they're like COME ON GUYS YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY USE THE STAFF to which I said "well, that would've been something important to say in vent or explain before the fight" and they're like "BUT THIS IS KT HE'S JUST TRASH NOW" and yeah. So they yelled at me for not knowing what to do ("it's so obvious!"). Lo and behold, we kill him after someone mentions that you have to actually "use" the Legendaries, and 10 other people get the achievement for Black Temple. Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[Grandiagod]

Originally Posted by Kagome

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2512/vezaxc.jpg

For those who forget my character's name I'm the one in with the bunny ears and dress.

Got some attempts on Yogg too which was fun stuff.

Pug vezax?

[tsugomaru]

If our guild ever did photos when we killed bosses, I'd totally have my pirate hat out like that troll.

~Tsugomaru

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by Grandiagod

Pug vezax?

My guess is that he does what we have to do. Our guild isn't big enough to run 25s by ourselves, so we get two or three guilds to run with us.

[Grandiagod]

Yeah but vezax isn't really pugable.

[Squeek]

It's not a pug. Did you read my last sentence? If they're anything like us, they have been running progression with those guilds for a while now.

What would you do if you only had 10 raiders and wanted to run 25 man content without expanding your guild?

a) Pug people.
b) Run with other small guilds for a while and see if you like them.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

We've been running with the same four guilds through naxx 25 every week and now we're about ready to move into Ulduar. Most of the guilds have a 10-man group that goes to Ulduar, so we all know the fights and have been getting some new gear at least. AKA, not a pug.

[tsugomaru]

Our guild one day dreams to pug an Ulduar 25 because we have to. We're starting to learn who can and cannot play from our pugs so hopefully we can get these good players to come with us on Ulduar 25. We've already done it with Emalon 25.

~Tsugomaru

[Kagome]

Yeah it's not a pug. We're a raiding group not a raiding guild. We have a set group of people but no one has the leave their guilds. We use an in game channel as our "guild chat."

We operate like a guild with applications and stuff. Not just anyone can join in on our raids. It's actually pretty hard to get into our group. Here's the description from the site.

Welcome to the Twisting Nether Raiders!
We are a coalition of people across the server created in order to raid end game instances. We are a friendly group looking for equally friendly and talented individuals to delve into Ulduar and beyond. One of the most appealing qualities of TNR is the fact that you do not have to leave your beloved guild and friends nor do you have to have a "hardcore" play schedule to start raiding with us.

[Grandiagod]

Originally Posted by Squeek

It's not a pug. Did you read my last sentence?

Contrary to popular belief the world doesn't revolve around your answers to questions.

Though thanks for answering kagome, that's a neat idea that I haven't seen put into practice on my server

[Necamus]

I like that concept.. I have too many friends in my guild to ditch it, but they don't do any raids past OS 10 ._.

[rade0110]

Got on Tuesday. 1% chance of drop + 20% chance of winning = awesome that I won.



Fishing for an hour to get fish feast mats today.



Sometimes he gets shy.



Yeah I'm lucky, I know.

[Darth Pegolous]

dude thats awesome...

[Gano]

Woo 25 chest + helm from badges = 3 piece t8 for meee
I'm very pleased. Hopefully I can land myself one more piece soon so I can start throwing multiple Pyroblasts rofl

also rade grats you jerk

[Squeek]

Damn pugs ruined our day. I don't need to explain much more than that.

To get over our frustration we decided to just destroy Emalon since we finally won Wintergrasp. Turns out they changed the Overcharge to immediately increase the add's size. It was a joke. Not a single one even got to 5 stacks. And for the first time ever, neither of the bosses dropped useless stuff! I got pants for my heal suit, which was a pleasant surprise after such a terrible night. Then we roflstomped EOE and we're just hoping our pug for 25FL doesn't suck ass tomorrow.

Ok I lied I will go into it.

I wrote up a macro for FL pugs, since we don't have a dedicated raid group for it yet. It says to the entire raid:

Group 1: Siege Engine DRIVERS
Group 2: Siege Engine PASSENGERS
Group 3: Demolisher DRIVERS
Group 4: Demolisher PASSENGERS
Group 5: Motorcycle DRIVERS

People still managed to get in their wrong vehicles. We constantly told them in vent and in raid chat where they were supposed to be, and they just could not figure out what was wrong. Several people (about a dozen) died from trying to swap vehicles before we engaged FL due to choppers attacking the raid at inopportune times. When we finally got to engage the boss, we find out some idiot talked to the hard-mode NPC and activated hard mode. We gave up on the raid.

[Grandiagod]

Originally Posted by Squeek

Damn pugs ruined our day. I don't need to explain much more than that.

To get over our frustration we decided to just destroy Emalon since we finally won Wintergrasp. Turns out they changed the Overcharge to immediately increase the add's size. It was a joke. Not a single one even got to 5 stacks. And for the first time ever, neither of the bosses dropped useless stuff! I got pants for my heal suit, which was a pleasant surprise after such a terrible night. Then we roflstomped EOE and we're just hoping our pug for 25FL doesn't suck ass tomorrow.

Ok I lied I will go into it.

I wrote up a macro for FL pugs, since we don't have a dedicated raid group for it yet. It says to the entire raid:

Group 1: Siege Engine DRIVERS
Group 2: Siege Engine PASSENGERS
Group 3: Demolisher DRIVERS
Group 4: Demolisher PASSENGERS
Group 5: Motorcycle DRIVERS

People still managed to get in their wrong vehicles. We constantly told them in vent and in raid chat where they were supposed to be, and they just could not figure out what was wrong. Several people (about a dozen) died from trying to swap vehicles before we engaged FL due to choppers attacking the raid at inopportune times. When we finally got to engage the boss, we find out some idiot talked to the hard-mode NPC and activated hard mode. We gave up on the raid.

FL hardmode is leaving towers up brah. Not talkin' to NPCs

[Squeek]

Hi Grandia. Welcome to Ulduar.

Flame Leviathan's Hard Mode is activated by speaking to the Lore Keeper of Norgannon in the staging area. Doing so activates all four orbital defense weapons, named for the Keepers of Ulduar. You can then turn off individual systems by destroying their corresponding tower. Talking to Brann and starting the event without speaking to the Lore Keeper will keep all defense systems inactive and disable the hard mode.

derp

[Grandiagod]

I just heal. Don't look at me, I don't have to know anything about anything to do my job

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[Squeek]

PS they're nerfing JC.

I literally just leveled JC because I heard how awesome it was, and now it's getting nerfed. Goddamn.

For those who don't know, they're removing the Prismatic quality of the Dragon's Eyes. They didn't say what colors they'd make them, if anything, but it's pretty obvious they'll just be the color of the regular gem with the same stats. AKA, worthless. The whole point of JC wasn't the better gems, it was the ability to use good gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. Now we're back to using terrible gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. I honestly don't understand the point of requiring all DPS classes to have two blue gems for their crit meta when NONE OF THEM USE BLUE GEMS.

[Gano]

Finished off dumb Loremaster today, had 9 quests left in Blade's Edge and Netherstorm that I was just putting off for a long time, so yay for that. Bumped my achievement points to 6095, which puts me like 100 behind that one guy. I'm coming for you guy.

[edit] Hehe Squeek I like how your best in slot elemental helm is the resto teir helm

[devonin]

Originally Posted by Squeek

PS they're nerfing JC.

I literally just leveled JC because I heard how awesome it was, and now it's getting nerfed. Goddamn.

For those who don't know, they're removing the Prismatic quality of the Dragon's Eyes. They didn't say what colors they'd make them, if anything, but it's pretty obvious they'll just be the color of the regular gem with the same stats. AKA, worthless. The whole point of JC wasn't the better gems, it was the ability to use good gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. Now we're back to using terrible gems in terrible sockets to meet the meta. I honestly don't understand the point of requiring all DPS classes to have two blue gems for their crit meta when NONE OF THEM USE BLUE GEMS.

Spirit, Stamina, MP5 and Spell Penetration. Not EVERY DPS finds them -worthless- just not exactly amazing. At worst though, they only have to burn 1 blue slot (Since they can make each of two blue gems be purple/green/prismatic instead of straight blue)

As for "the purpose of JC" you and I have a very strong disagreement as to the purpose of the profession. Number 1: The trinkets are fantastic, Number 2: The better gems are fantastic. Obviously certain professions are going to lend themselves to certain classes in their extra powers, and basic powers, and maybe it's just become the case that JC isn't for every DPS now.

Also: DPS metas that do not require blue sockets:

+21 crit, +2% mana
+42 AP, +run speed
+25 SP, +2% intellect