Did You Know?...

**Go_Oilers_Go** · 08-5-2007, 07:10 PM

That Underoath is in fact a Christian band?

Verruckter · 08-5-2007, 07:57 PM

Oh, is that why it sucks? Or just because it's metalcore?

T3hDDRKid · 08-5-2007, 09:44 PM

Of course Underoath is Christian.

A better question is "How did you not know?... That Underoath is in fact a Christian band?

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If you listen to the lyrics, it's not that difficult. A phrase that particularly stands out is "Jesus, I'm ready to come home."

ddranthony92 · 08-13-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Verruckter

Oh, is that why it sucks? Or just because it's metalcore?

metalcore dosnt suck,if u think so then u most not know good metal band(or around that genre)

but underoath sucks

madmatt621 · 08-13-2007, 10:25 AM

^^*7 week bump*^^

RB_IcePh0enix · 08-13-2007, 10:52 AM

Underoath doesn't suck. I love there music and I probably still would if I wasn't Christian (some of my friends like them but they're not Christians). The Almost on the other hand...

shatteredgravity · 08-13-2007, 10:57 AM

been there, done that, and people keep trying to say differently. haha.. underoath = love.
the almost [as previously mentioned] isnt so bad either

beaner692 · 08-13-2007, 10:59 AM

Christian Metalcore ftw?

I disagree

RB_IcePh0enix · 08-13-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shatteredgravity

been there, done that, and people keep trying to say differently. haha.. underoath = love.
the almost [as previously mentioned] isnt so bad either

I actually used the ... to show I don't really like them lol. Aaron's cool and a good singer but besides Say this Sooner his/there cd doesn't have many good songs.

P.S. Underoath shows that Christians can rock hard too.

Dragula219 · 08-13-2007, 11:30 AM

Underoath isn't metalcore you $hitards. It's emocore/post-hardcore/pop-punk.

Metalcore = Unearth, Parkway Drive, As I Lay Dying, Silent Civilian, It Dies Today, etc.. A lot of Metalcore is good, very little post-hardcore is good. Yesterdays Rising is an example good post-hardcore.

So many bands are Christian these days it's ****ing ridiculous.

OrganisM · 08-13-2007, 11:49 AM

If a band is good enough nobody will care what genre is pasted on it.

jewpinthethird · 08-13-2007, 12:44 PM

Metal brings the lulz.

g4z33b0 · 08-13-2007, 01:30 PM

metalcore is a genre for fags, christians hate fags, where does that leave underoath?

jewpinthethird · 08-13-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by g4z33b0

metalcore is a genre for fags, christians hate fags, where does that leave underoath?

NOT METALCORE. I'm taking Dragula's word, since s/he has proven to know what s/he is talking about when it comes to music.

Metal = lulz
People who listen to metal = megalulz

^ Boy? Girl? You decided!

RB_IcePh0enix · 08-13-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragula219

Underoath isn't metalcore you $hitards. It's emocore/post-hardcore/pop-punk.

Metalcore = Unearth, Parkway Drive, As I Lay Dying, Silent Civilian, It Dies Today, etc.. A lot of Metalcore is good, very little post-hardcore is good. Yesterdays Rising is an example good post-hardcore.

So many bands are Christian these days it's ****ing ridiculous.

That made me laugh. But yes, they're not metalcore. They're emocore/post-hardcore/screamo. Compare Underoath to real pop-punk bands like Fall Out Boy and you'll see a huge difference, but compare real metalcore bands like Unearth and As I Lay Dying (which are actually decent band) and you'll still see a huge difference. And what's wrong with bands singing about what they believe in?

Raziel_Darkeden · 08-13-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jewpinthethird

^ Boy? Girl? You decided!

Boy. He has the beginnings of a beard. Or that's one hairy girl...

Dragula219 · 08-13-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RB_IcePh0enix

That made me laugh. But yes, they're not metalcore. They're emocore/post-hardcore/screamo. Compare Underoath to real pop-punk bands like Fall Out Boy and you'll see a huge difference, but compare real metalcore bands like Unearth and As I Lay Dying (which are actually decent band) and you'll still see a huge difference. And what's wrong with bands singing about what they believe in?

Any band who uses 3-5 major power chord strumming patterns and major intervals on scale between them in EVERY SONG is Pop-Punk in my eyes.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with Christian bands. I just think it's funny to hear bands like Norma Jean and Zao that play extremely heavy experimental hardcore music screaming about how much they love Jesus and such. I mean come on, who doesn't find that funny?

For the record: I like a lot of metalcore, and I play in a metalcore band. I think good metalcore bands are very talented instrumentally and some bands have amazing lyricists (Unearth, I Killed The Prom Queen, The Human Abstract, and laugh if you want, As I Lay Dying), and I listen to all kinds of music. An Example - "Echelons to Molotov's" by The Human Abstract:

Standing, strong and tall.
Outside hear their call.
Tear down the wall, upper echelon,
Blackest of them all.
Sold us into sorrow, you love to watch the weaker ones crawl.
Don't pity our cause, for the laws you've disowned.
Pagan prophesy has come to be.
Thrown Molotov's mark the fall of a throne.
And a dead philosophy,
We're not to be owned.
Paid slaves heed to the masters voice,
The scales offset without a choice.
Debts of the spirit.
No chance of your own conscience turning the tide.

All I'm saying is metalcore gets a bad name from all the ****ty metalcore bands out there.

OrganisM · 08-13-2007, 06:33 PM

Uhh, those lyrics sound very, very beaten to death. Practically all of metal and its sub-genres have such terrible lyrics, and so much of it is poorly recorded and muddy.

You want some good metal? Listen to Turmion Katilot.

RB_IcePh0enix · 08-13-2007, 06:41 PM

I might seem like a total noob asking this, but what is the difference of metalcore and death metal? I used to think As I Lay Dying and Unearth were deathmetal bands but I guess not.

Dragula219 · 08-13-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OrganisM

Uhh, those lyrics sound very, very beaten to death. Practically all of metal and its sub-genres have such terrible lyrics, and so much of it is poorly recorded and muddy.

You want some good metal? Listen to Turmion Katilot.

What would be your example of good lyrics then? I think that song is one of the best rebellion songs there is. I don't really know what you mean by beaten to death. If you mean other artist write lyrics about the same thing, well that's obvious and doesn't make lyrics any worse. If you believe that, than just about every song ever written is "terrible" lyrics.

If you're saying some one writes with the exact same style as Mike Garrigan then...... Rofl. You might as well not post after this, because that is laughable and extremely foolish. Especially if you're only judging based on one song.

I do like Turmion Katilot, but they're not metalcore, and they're not that good IMO. You're probably just the kind of person the loves bands like Amon Amarth and/or Scandinavian metal, although I don't know this for a fact. I generally don't like that kind of music that much.

08-5-2007, 07:10 PM	#1
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08-5-2007, 07:57 PM	#2
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08-5-2007, 09:44 PM	#3
T3hDDRKid FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 754	Re: Did You Know?... Of course Underoath is Christian. A better question is "How did you not know?... That Underoath is in fact a Christian band? " If you listen to the lyrics, it's not that difficult. A phrase that particularly stands out is "Jesus, I'm ready to come home."

08-13-2007, 10:25 AM	#5
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08-13-2007, 10:52 AM	#6
RB_IcePh0enix FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 709	Re: Did You Know?... Underoath doesn't suck. I love there music and I probably still would if I wasn't Christian (some of my friends like them but they're not Christians). The Almost on the other hand...

08-13-2007, 10:57 AM	#7
shatteredgravity FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: lost, but not hopeless Age: 32 Posts: 95	Re: Did You Know?... been there, done that, and people keep trying to say differently. haha.. underoath = love. the almost [as previously mentioned] isnt so bad either

08-13-2007, 10:59 AM	#8
beaner692 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California Age: 34 Posts: 1,071	Re: Did You Know?... Christian Metalcore ftw? I disagree __________________ wewt10k aim: IMB3AU http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=vertex+beta I play Vertex BETA :O

08-13-2007, 11:30 AM	#10
Dragula219 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Much sexier than Hayden Panettiere Age: 34 Posts: 629	Re: Did You Know?... Underoath isn't metalcore you $hitards. It's emocore/post-hardcore/pop-punk. Metalcore = Unearth, Parkway Drive, As I Lay Dying, Silent Civilian, It Dies Today, etc.. A lot of Metalcore is good, very little post-hardcore is good. Yesterdays Rising is an example good post-hardcore. So many bands are Christian these days it's ***ing ridiculous. __________________ Violent Skank is Violent! Last edited by Dragula219; 08-13-2007 at 11:39 AM..*

08-13-2007, 11:49 AM	#11
OrganisM FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nesoi, Olympus System Posts: 2,644	Re: Did You Know?... If a band is good enough nobody will care what genre is pasted on it. __________________ . Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]: "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee, because the venom gets into the blood stream which spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body... changing your genetic structure into a bee's. Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way." Originally Posted by MrRubix[link]: "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?" Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]: "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually." Last edited by OrganisM; 08-13-2007 at 11:49 AM.. Reason: can't say that for christian bands. :S

08-13-2007, 12:44 PM	#12
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08-13-2007, 01:30 PM	#13
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08-13-2007, 06:33 PM	#18
OrganisM FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nesoi, Olympus System Posts: 2,644	Re: Did You Know?... Uhh, those lyrics sound very, very beaten to death. Practically all of metal and its sub-genres have such terrible lyrics, and so much of it is poorly recorded and muddy. You want some good metal? Listen to Turmion Katilot. __________________ . Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]: "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee, because the venom gets into the blood stream which spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body... changing your genetic structure into a bee's. Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way." Originally Posted by MrRubix[link]: "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?" Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]: "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

08-13-2007, 06:41 PM	#19
RB_IcePh0enix FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 709	Re: Did You Know?... I might seem like a total noob asking this, but what is the difference of metalcore and death metal? I used to think As I Lay Dying and Unearth were deathmetal bands but I guess not.

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