TWG CLXXI - The Reaper's Game - POST-GAME

[XelNya]

I think I need to work better on progressing my reads as a wolf using the game more. I'm generally ok at it as town and I think fixing that up woulda won us the game a day sooner.

I'm also still pretty ass at being under pressure, but a chunk of that is my inherant disadvantage of eods always being where i am without a pc.

Gotta learn to play around it.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

I think as a collective we made a few misplays as well. I wanna go over them later tonight

Misplay 1

-We never should have CFD'd Lar on D0.

Think about this from a wagonomics perspective. On D0 you are unlikely to hit a wolf with a random cfd because the other wolves can influence the wagon. This is not true for greens or blues. When someone is not in the thread to defend themselves during a cfd, especially an unexpected one like MML's you open the door to the possibility of accidentally lynching your blues without them being able to claim. This won't happen every time, but the possibility is there.

Your chances of cfding onto a blue are higher then cfding onto a wolf, and it makes cfding someone who isn't in the thread a bad D0 play.


Misplay 2

- Lynching sunfan

I am aware I did nothing to help this, and I am also aware the lynch had some wolves driving it.

When a player is as open as sunfan was during D1, and was making post after post from his headspace, and those posts made logical sense, generally that player is a human. I think people play too scared around players like sunfan, and they refuse to believe anything they say because "they could be a wolf".

It is extremely difficult for a wolf to make extended arguments that connect over the course of the game. Sunfan's posts did that fairly well (they could have been a bit better because they looked scatterbrained to me), but they were enough to dispel my doubt on him.

This happened again lategame when I freaked out over my xiz vote. I don't know how anyone left in the game still thought I was a wolf after that, but you need to be able to suspend your beliefs for a moment when reading posts from another player that let you into their headspace. You need to see if what they're saying makes sense and connects with their in game actions. I don't think cel did this (correct me if I'm wrong).



-Some minor misplays

Lynching blind was a misplay that was half his fault. You can't attach yourself to the wolfteam in posts and expect to not get pressured for it. Be more careful with your wording. On the converse side, maybe we shouldn't jump on obvious things like that so fast.

Letting D4 go by with virtually no posts. No discourse lets the wolves coast, and law let the wolves coast. This factored into my xiz wolfread at the end, but it was too late to do anything about it.

[Rapta]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Coach me haku

can i watch? i am curious as to how he would go about doing that

[the sun fan]

im just always scatterbrained manti
I mean I am not saying its a good thing
but its not gonna change without me having some kind of serious life changing experience or something
I'm just an awkward motherfucker, straight up

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Tforce, the invite links have expired in the OP. Can you replace them with permalinks

I mean, if you want, sure, but I was gonna ditch 'em in the next couple of days.

[DaBackpack]

I was myopically focused on xelnya so much that I was forced to hard defend rapta --- based on wagonomics I refused to believe xelnya and rapta were w/w and the effects of this helped to towns downfall

this led me to believe manti was a wolf for pushing on rapta so hard instead of reading xelnya

I slept through one of the eods making me effectively useless for that phase, and then I died

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Also, I self voted to spite you round, I'm sorry.

you got dunked on in my Phoenix Wright game

what makes you think this game could have been better???

blind will be my vote next game

[Xiz]

round stop rolling pr and ill stop killiing you ty

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by Xiz

round stop rolling pr and ill stop killiing you ty

xiz stop rolling wolf so town has a chance of winning

[Xiz]

if only my town game was good

[blindreper1179]

If it makes you feel any better sunfan, I read you town instead of being paranoid and not try to read you. I think you did well this game, but obviously "could of" done better.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by T-Force

I mean, if you want, sure, but I was gonna ditch 'em in the next couple of days.

I ask because I missed getting into wuffchat

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Xiz

round stop rolling pr and ill stop killiing you ty

But I wasn't targeted as a potential pr though

[MixMasterLar]

GG Wolves. This is probably my last game since I simply do not have the schedule to commit to TWG anymore. I'll probably still read along though.

Originally Posted by SunFan

roundbox couldn't get over me parking my vote (Which imo is a really bad reason to scumread someone!!!!! bein honest here)

You let Freezin use the shittiest logic to lynch me because you love Cel more.

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You let Freezin use the shittiest logic to lynch me because you love Cel more.

Well I am pretty damn cute

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

GG Wolves. This is probably my last game since I simply do not have the schedule to commit to TWG anymore. I'll probably still read along though.



You let Freezin use the shittiest logic to lynch me because you love Cel more.

was cel the counterwagon? idr
if so, then yeah I was fine with you dying at the time I was pretty damn sure Cel was town.

[MixMasterLar]

K, well compared to that sitting on a vote that was clearly just a shitvote and then letting it be your final vote as well because lol why not is absolutely a legit rjeason to get scumread.

Not sure why you think Roundbox is using bad logic here.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

K, well compared to that sitting on a vote that was clearly just a shitvote and then letting it be your final vote as well because lol why not is absolutely a legit rjeason to get scumread.

Not sure why you think Roundbox is using bad logic here.

because it became a real vote and I explained why!!!

[the sun fan]

not saying that I shouldn't have townread you
but I understand my headspace at a the time a bit better now

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

because it became a real vote and I explained why!!!

Yeah, because you allowed yourself to think it was a thunderdome between me, Cel and maybe one other candidate and instead of doing work you picked me and went with it.


Not trying to send the wrong message or tone: IRL stuff happens, sometimes people cant get into the game well, that's cool. But when you compare your reasons for lynching me against Roundbox lynching you it's night and day. I don't understand how anyone was not scumreading you

And yeah, I hear Manti on the whole "after he poured his thoughts out in such a way" reasoning and while that makes sense in hindsight I have to be with Round on this one.