Competitive or Not - Page 2

**The_Popo** · 08-1-2011, 11:43 AM

ok now your turning this post into something now just to make it look like its competitive setting personal goals to beat is not competitive its having fun ....

**wargasm1** · 08-1-2011, 11:45 AM

competitive but only for overall rank, crazy ranks come by accident :P

Mr. Dorbs · 08-1-2011, 11:45 AM

There are varous elements of this game that allow for both competitive and casual gameplay. Trying to group "competitive or not" is just very small-minded and dosen't properly illustrate the player demographic.

**psychoangel691** · 08-1-2011, 11:49 AM

The way it was put to me was that people play only for fun meaning that they aren't going for anything they just play because the game is fun. My point is that no matter what there's typically some drive behind playing, not just playing to play. I mean I used to be a player that played just to play but that was before I knew anything about ranks and before coming into the community.

It's not small minded, it's just to show there is a driving factor for most people as to why they play. I don't think there are many in the community that literally play only for the fun of hitting keys to music.

**BethanyBangs** · 08-1-2011, 11:53 AM

Hmm to me the definition of competition on this site is like playing in tourneys. Trying to AAA, FC every song, the damn Tier Points. Multiplayer. I'll be happy if I fc all 1-9's. -w-

Mr. Dorbs · 08-1-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

The way it was put to me was that people play only for fun meaning that they aren't going for anything they just play because the game is fun. My point is that no matter what there's typically some drive behind playing, not just playing to play. I mean I used to be a player that played just to play but that was before I knew anything about ranks and before coming into the community.

It's not small minded, it's just to show there is a driving factor for most people as to why they play. I don't think there are many in the community that literally play only for the fun of hitting keys to music.

It is very small-minded, and if you can't realise that then there's really no point in trying to convince you otherwise. It's pretty cut and dry. It's not an attack against you (I'm not calling YOU small-minded) I'm just pointing out that there are so many other factors in playing than just being competitive or not and I feel like these are not taken into consideration, especially when you have a poll with only two choices.

**psychoangel691** · 08-1-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dorbs

It is very small-minded, and if you can't realise that then there's really no point in trying to convince you otherwise. It's pretty cut and dry. It's not an attack against you (I'm not calling YOU small-minded) I'm just pointing out that there are so many other factors in playing than just being competitive or not and I feel like these are not taken into consideration, especially when you have a poll with only two choices.

There doesn't need to be more than 2 choices in this situation. What I'm asking is does something drive you to play the game, AAAs, FCs, ranks, competing against other players, etc.

Or

Do you play just because you like it and don't care for any of the achievements that are in the game at all. Just play cause it's fun.

I never said that there aren't many factors in this game, but for this particular situation it's just you play for something or you just play to play. That's all I'm asking.

**Frank Munoz** · 08-1-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Dorbs

It is very small-minded, and if you can't realise that then there's really no point in trying to convince you otherwise. It's pretty cut and dry. It's not an attack against you (I'm not calling YOU small-minded) I'm just pointing out that there are so many other factors in playing than just being competitive or not and I feel like these are not taken into consideration, especially when you have a poll with only two choices.

Yes, there are many other factors in playing; but this poll is specifically on being competitive or not.

**Mans0n** · 08-1-2011, 12:00 PM

Competitive as fuc say whut

**FFRGreen** · 08-1-2011, 12:01 PM

I try to play competitive but I am always lazy to AAA songs. So I guess I play for fun.

**psychoangel691** · 08-1-2011, 12:02 PM

Here let me put it this way, would you find the game as interesting if it didn't have anything to achieve? No ranks no AAA's none of that stuff.

Or do those things enhance your enjoyment of the game and drive you to want to play it?

**xXOpkillerXx** · 08-1-2011, 12:07 PM

I can't play a game without aiming for goals. -Competitive-

Mr. Dorbs · 08-1-2011, 12:08 PM

A thread like this seems more proper to be found in FFR General Talk (A place to chat about FFR in general) rather than Chit Chat (Anything that doesn't neatly fit into one of the other categories)

**Zakvvv666** · 08-1-2011, 12:10 PM

Competitive, although what sparked this thread is a little over the top.

**xXAll-ProXx** · 08-1-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by psychoangel691

Here let me put it this way, would you find the game as interesting if it didn't have anything to achieve? No ranks no AAA's none of that stuff.

Or do those things enhance your enjoyment of the game and drive you to want to play it?

Achieving a certain score on a song, and trying to beat it does not make you entirely competitive. A lot of people who play Stepmania do not play for recognition, or achievements. They play for fun and also to beat their best score on that song, if you're calling this competitive then everyone including the inactive players, are considered "competitive" because everyone strives to beat their best score on a song. It would be just dumb to say "I don't want to beat my best score on this".

Personal achievements are completely different things, everyone has a set of personal achievements on FFR, EVEN if it's for fun. People who want beat their own best score on something aren't actually being competitive, they are just setting goals for themselves, which is IMO, non-competitive.

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On the other hand, being competitive is someone who strives to beat someone ELSE'S best score on a song. Or someone who plays a song that they don't like, just to AAA/FC it.

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Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

I can't play a game without aiming for goals. -Competitive-

No one can! I don't believe setting goals for yourself is considered competitive, otherwise, everyone IS playing competitive. Who the hell plays FFR just to smash some keys and not even go for a certain score!

Anyone who's FC'd 99% of the songs on FFR is competitive, because there is bound to be at least 1 song they hated, I hate about 20 FMO's, check my ranks on them. I haven't even tried FC'ing them. However, if I tried to AAA bloodmeat (I hate this song), I would be considered competitive.

**One Winged Angel** · 08-1-2011, 12:17 PM

Always been competitive, sometimes I might take it a bit too far (a few guys from vidchat know what I passed up the day I was trying to nail FN, lmao), but that massive feeling of accomplishment once you finally murk that one song that you know you can smash but just couldn't until right then...it's pretty legit

~kitty~ · 08-1-2011, 12:19 PM

I used to be competitive, but now I'm not. I literally play the files I enjoy, regardless of my ability to play them. However, sometimes I try getting better so I can more smoothly play some other songs. This is why I don't play as much anymore, though. My vote will be non-competitive, but I certainly was competitive before.

**psychoangel691** · 08-1-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xXAll-ProXx

Who the hell plays FFR just to smash some keys and not even go for a certain score!

That's my point right there though. People are usually playing for SOMETHING. It's not just "oh hey clicking these keys is fun I'm just gonna do it cause it's fun"

The word competitive can be looked at in a lot of ways really. Essentially when trying to beat a score you have gotten before you're competing with yourself. Either way I could change the word but it still the same answer I'm seeking.

Either you play for something or just play for the fun of it and don't care about any achievement.

**PlayTrumpet** · 08-1-2011, 12:24 PM

Used to be, but not anymore. Mostly because I can't really play anymore since all of the engines lag for me, including standalone. I blame my computer.

**One Winged Angel** · 08-1-2011, 12:25 PM

Although I love the idea of having ~*~FFR riVaLs~*~ since competition with others is a huge self-motivator (almost everyone has a tendency to want to be the best), most people that clicked 'competitive' probably defined it as competition with themselves

Also god damn let's get the userbase up and bring back clans

View Poll Results: Competitive or Not
Competitive	59	68.60%
Non Competitive	27	31.40%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

08-1-2011, 11:43 AM	#21
The_Popo FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 187	Re: Competitive or Not ok now your turning this post into something now just to make it look like its competitive setting personal goals to beat is not competitive its having fun ....

08-1-2011, 11:45 AM	#22
wargasm1 Cowbelling FFR Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 96 Posts: 1,289	Re: Competitive or Not competitive but only for overall rank, crazy ranks come by accident :P

08-1-2011, 11:45 AM	#23
Mr. Dorbs FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15	Re: Competitive or Not There are varous elements of this game that allow for both competitive and casual gameplay. Trying to group "competitive or not" is just very small-minded and dosen't properly illustrate the player demographic.

08-1-2011, 11:53 AM	#25
BethanyBangs ~ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sacramento Age: 29 Posts: 730	Re: Competitive or Not Hmm to me the definition of competition on this site is like playing in tourneys. Trying to AAA, FC every song, the damn Tier Points. Multiplayer. I'll be happy if I fc all 1-9's. -w-

08-1-2011, 12:00 PM	#29
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Competitive or Not Competitive as fuc say whut __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

08-1-2011, 12:01 PM	#30
FFRGreen Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: California Age: 30 Posts: 1,151	Re: Competitive or Not I try to play competitive but I am always lazy to AAA songs. So I guess I play for fun.

08-1-2011, 12:07 PM	#32
xXOpkillerXx ✘ Forever OP✘ Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada,Quebec Age: 29 Posts: 4,171	Re: Competitive or Not I can't play a game without aiming for goals. -Competitive-

08-1-2011, 12:08 PM	#33
Mr. Dorbs FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15	Re: Competitive or Not A thread like this seems more proper to be found in FFR General Talk (A place to chat about FFR in general) rather than Chit Chat (Anything that doesn't neatly fit into one of the other categories)

08-1-2011, 12:19 PM	#37
~kitty~ FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 988	Re: Competitive or Not I used to be competitive, but now I'm not. I literally play the files I enjoy, regardless of my ability to play them. However, sometimes I try getting better so I can more smoothly play some other songs. This is why I don't play as much anymore, though. My vote will be non-competitive, but I certainly was competitive before.

08-1-2011, 12:24 PM	#39
PlayTrumpet Lamingtons. Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 590	Re: Competitive or Not Used to be, but not anymore. Mostly because I can't really play anymore since all of the engines lag for me, including standalone. I blame my computer. __________________ HIGH-FIVING A MILLION ANGELS! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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