Go Back   Flash Flash Revolution > Flash Flash Revolution > FFR General Talk
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: Should we add a AA metric to FFR ?
Yes, like how the OP described it 7 31.82%
Yes, but not exactly as described 5 22.73%
No 10 45.45%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-16-2021, 11:32 AM   #1
benny58624
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
benny58624's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Age: 28
Posts: 351
Default Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx View Post
Oh nice, can you please give some examples of those scores in here ? In fact, after some discussion on the % on discord, 90% definitely IS far too low for most charts. When I get access to my laptop I will compute the average raw score % that a SDG represents on all files, and feom there we could adjust the AA % to be something lower.
The tier points page gives a nice comparison of obtained raw score and maximum possible raw score for a bunch of files. I see I've managed to get a 93885/104000 = 90.3% score on System Doctor. Not sure when I got it, but to compare: I'm mid-high D4 now, and should definitely NOT be able to get AA on a difficulty 101 file.

Other examples:
92.8% Revolutionary Etude
90.3% A Quick Death
92.7% Grist
91.0% Magical 8bit Tour
91.0% Schmollbluk
... and more.

For a 1000 notes file, a SDG equals a score of 99.51+%.

Last edited by benny58624; 08-16-2021 at 11:37 AM..
benny58624 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 11:42 AM   #2
xXOpkillerXx
Forever OP
Simfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD8 Godly KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
xXOpkillerXx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canada,Quebec
Age: 29
Posts: 4,171
Default Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by benny58624 View Post
The tier points page gives a nice comparison of obtained raw score and maximum possible raw score for a bunch of files. I see I've managed to get a 93885/104000 = 90.3% score on System Doctor. Not sure when I got it, but to compare: I'm mid-high D4 now, and should definitely NOT be able to get AA on a difficulty 101 file.

Other examples:
92.8% Revolutionary Etude
90.3% A Quick Death
92.7% Grist
91.0% Magical 8bit Tour
91.0% Schmollbluk
... and more
Great, thanks for the info ! A more accurate estimate has been made at around 97%, considering an SDG on a 1500 notes chart is 99.333%. On that same notecount, a 97% would mean 90 raw goods, and on a chart with 3000 notes it would be 180 raw goods.
xXOpkillerXx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 01:35 PM   #3
xXOpkillerXx
Forever OP
Simfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD8 Godly KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
xXOpkillerXx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canada,Quebec
Age: 29
Posts: 4,171
Default Re: Definition of a FFR AA

My bad if the raw goods counts in my examples are wrong, typing quickly on phone.

The idea remains that the % for AA should be agreed on w.r.t. the average notecount to be as representative as possible.
xXOpkillerXx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 01:43 PM   #4
Dynam0
The Dominator
D7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
Dynam0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: North Bay, ON
Age: 34
Posts: 8,987
Default Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx View Post
My bad if the raw goods counts in my examples are wrong, typing quickly on phone.

The idea remains that the % for AA should be agreed on w.r.t. the average notecount to be as representative as possible.

I can't see a better way than this...though you will still have those anomalous files that have a huge skill gap to go from AA -> SDG (System Doctor is a great example, very farmable as it is for skill rating lol) and then other files that you can improve drastically on with a small skill increase (stamina intensive and marathon files)

I don't see anything wrong with the idea though since all we're doing is counting the AA's and not assigning ratings to them based on difficulty
Dynam0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2021, 01:50 PM   #5
xXOpkillerXx
Forever OP
Simfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD8 Godly KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
xXOpkillerXx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canada,Quebec
Age: 29
Posts: 4,171
Default Re: Definition of a FFR AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynam0 View Post
I can't see a better way than this...though you will still have those anomalous files that have a huge skill gap to go from AA -> SDG (System Doctor is a great example, very farmable as it is for skill rating lol) and then other files that you can improve drastically on with a small skill increase (stamina intensive and marathon files)

I don't see anything wrong with the idea though since all we're doing is counting the AA's and not assigning ratings to them based on difficulty
Yeah the flaws of our AAA system shouldnt be applied to this since it would purely be a rough measure of "did you get a somewhat decent score". It still suffers from the same-ish chart structure I mentionned in the OP yes, but I dont think it's important given the goal of the metric.
xXOpkillerXx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution