Go Back   Flash Flash Revolution > Flash Flash Revolution > FFR General Talk
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-3-2012, 07:51 PM   #1
Mau5
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Age: 28
Posts: 790
Default Where do You Look at the Screen?

Every song i've been playing lately i've been paying more attention to where exactly i'm looking than the actual file, and it's messing me up... hahaha.
While you're playing, exactly what part of the screen do you look at? Does it alternate depending on the file/song?

Here's an example:

Top or bottom?

Obviously it doesn't seem like a big deal, but i've found on SM when I am playing a very fast stream, i improve the farther down i look, but everything else i look right up towards the arrows for PA or else i suck ***. So I guess I alternate more than anything.
__________________
How to start an argument online:
Step 1) Express an opinion
Step 2) Wait....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arntonach View Post
It's great to see how the internet works, it's mask of anonymity bringing out the worst in people.
Mau5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 07:57 PM   #2
who_cares973
FFR Player
 
who_cares973's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: :U
Age: 35
Posts: 15,407
Send a message via AIM to who_cares973 Send a message via MSN to who_cares973 Send a message via Yahoo to who_cares973 Send a message via Skype™ to who_cares973
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

ive asked this question before adn where you have the arrows pointing to is where most people read. i read at or above the receptors depending on the type of file or the section in the file. if its stream i stare higher, if its js i stare lower
__________________
who_cares973 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:02 PM   #3
Tidus810
slimy, yet ... satisfying
FFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
Tidus810's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Age: 31
Posts: 1,244
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I typically stare at the higher spot that you have on that pic, but when it's anything super dense I tend to look lower. It almost buys me a little time to process the patterns, maybe.
Tidus810 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:04 PM   #4
reuben_tate
Kawaii Desu Ne?
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
reuben_tate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Kawaiian Island~
Age: 30
Posts: 4,182
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I typically look at the receptors at the beginning of the file for reference so I can get a feel for the bpm and such, but then I tend to focus under the receptors afterwards. I feel like I'll look really low sometimes just for the sake of pattern recognition.
__________________
AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino

Not happening now! Don't click to join!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Spenner View Post
(^)> peck peck says the heels
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zakvvv666
awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing
reuben_tate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:16 PM   #5
Cyth The Raccoon
FFR Player
 
Cyth The Raccoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Posts: 103
Send a message via MSN to Cyth The Raccoon Send a message via Skype™ to Cyth The Raccoon
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I look at the absolute bottom. I have my speed mod and reaction time coincide, so as soon as I see the note, I go to hit it! No accidental early pressing, and not fast enough for me to get late goods. It's perfect because notes don't get clustered for me. n.n

About right here (2x speed):

__________________
Most recent AAA (#425): Night Walker
Cyth The Raccoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:23 PM   #6
Anaru
Banned
FFR Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 1,530
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I don't really look at any 1 spot but if anything my eyes are more towards the middle because I want to get a general idea of the pattern.

Then my hands move on their own. :P
Anaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:36 PM   #7
Herogashix
Descension from Heaven
FFR Music ProducerD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
Herogashix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,180
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

__________________
Herogashix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 08:37 PM   #8
sakura080789
Rapture Universe
FFR Veteran
 
sakura080789's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 34
Posts: 1,749
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by who_cares973 View Post
ive asked this question before adn where you have the arrows pointing to is where most people read. i read at or above the receptors depending on the type of file or the section in the file. if its stream i stare higher, if its js i stare lower
i do the exact thing
__________________
sakura080789 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 09:06 PM   #9
FontSize72LOL
☆~{2D <3}~☆
FFR Veteran
 
FontSize72LOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: World
Age: 33
Posts: 833
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyth The Raccoon View Post
I look at the absolute bottom. I have my speed mod and reaction time coincide, so as soon as I see the note, I go to hit it! No accidental early pressing, and not fast enough for me to get late goods. It's perfect because notes don't get clustered for me. n.n

About right here (2x speed):

Same
__________________



Get Kancho'd


FontSize72LOL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 09:11 PM   #10
Go_Oilers_Go
<<Insert Title Here>>
FFR Veteran
 
Go_Oilers_Go's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Regina, SK, Canada
Age: 34
Posts: 1,436
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I tend to usually look higher on the screen. This is probably largely due to the fact that I "grew up" on FFR screencutting.
Go_Oilers_Go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 09:15 PM   #11
AlexDest
good hot
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
AlexDest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: North Carolina
Age: 29
Posts: 5,309
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I look where the judgements are, kind of evolved that from stepmania (except the judgements are usually in middle/top).
AlexDest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 09:38 PM   #12
Ninty64
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 738
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

Erm, we're supposed to look in one spot? My eyes follow the arrows. Up and down, up and down.

(or I guess for your upscrollolers, it's down and up down and up)

Edit: If I'm daydreaming or not paying attention I stare at one spot

Last edited by Ninty64; 02-3-2012 at 09:41 PM..
Ninty64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 10:01 PM   #13
DossarLX ODI
Batch Manager
Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator
Game ManagerSimfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
DossarLX ODI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Age: 29
Posts: 14,861
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?



And quite incidentally, this is also the reason why I use 1.75 on FFR.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi19hi19 View Post
oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file
DossarLX ODI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 10:04 PM   #14
Anaru
Banned
FFR Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Berkeley, California
Posts: 1,530
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

damn roy got some sick reaction times then lol
looking that far above..
Anaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 10:32 PM   #15
reuben_tate
Kawaii Desu Ne?
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
reuben_tate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Kawaiian Island~
Age: 30
Posts: 4,182
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyth The Raccoon View Post
I look at the absolute bottom. I have my speed mod and reaction time coincide, so as soon as I see the note, I go to hit it! No accidental early pressing, and not fast enough for me to get late goods. It's perfect because notes don't get clustered for me. n.n

About right here (2x speed):

Quote:
Originally Posted by FontSize72LOL View Post
Same
How the hell can you guys look that down low? @_@

Anyways, I tend to look at around the area where it says "perfect", "good", etc. I tend to look over there a lot so I can quickly re-adjust if my accuracy starts going haywire on say something like a one-handed trill.
__________________
AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino

Not happening now! Don't click to join!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Spenner View Post
(^)> peck peck says the heels
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zakvvv666
awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing
reuben_tate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-3-2012, 11:36 PM   #16
DossarLX ODI
Batch Manager
Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator
Game ManagerSimfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
DossarLX ODI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Age: 29
Posts: 14,861
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I mean when a denser part comes I look down a little lower but it's still pretty high. To me it's better to read a slower speed and process what's going on at the time.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi19hi19 View Post
oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file
DossarLX ODI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-4-2012, 01:38 AM   #17
Jerry DB
FFR, lift, repeat
FFR Veteran
 
Jerry DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: oregon
Age: 32
Posts: 2,071
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I read about where roy reads haha. I think it's a habit I got from screencutting 1x back in the day. I had to look right at the receptor because you had to be precise
Jerry DB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-4-2012, 02:24 AM   #18
BethanyBangs
~
FFR Veteran
 
BethanyBangs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sacramento
Age: 29
Posts: 730
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

I look at the top.
BethanyBangs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-4-2012, 02:29 AM   #19
bmah
shots FIRED
Global Moderator, User Support, Judge
Global ModeratorFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
bmah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 35
Posts: 8,448
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

As I've said to some players, it's important to take advantage of reading the arrows at different places relative to the distance from the receptors. Playing casually, I'll look at where I'm normally comfortable at without thinking. However, when there's a song or section of a song in which I want to maintain accuracy, I'll stare closer to the receptors, like around where Dossar reads it. This helps ensure that I'm hitting the arrows as they come up towards the receptor, regardless of how well these arrows correlate to the music. Some examples of areas that I may do this includes a tricky to hit pattern or patterns that are susceptible to splitting (e.g. [13][24][13][24]).

By looking closer towards the receptor, your mind is really "screencutting" the game for you. If you played Stepmania with xmods, screencutting or looking close to the receptors would greatly help accuracy in songs with slow scrolling. This is no different than screencutting in other rhythm games. Players of the beatmania community used to screencut via a towel hanging from the top of their screens, which forces them to look closer at the note receptors (now the series have screencutting options/sudden modes).

So to answer the OP's question, I look at the screen in various places, but generally three quarters to the receptors (fairly close). Look even closer if you want to help ensure PA.
bmah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-4-2012, 02:57 AM   #20
supermousie
FFR Player
 
supermousie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: no
Age: 13
Posts: 1,074
Send a message via Skype™ to supermousie
Default Re: Where do You Look at the Screen?

When I'm playing a file that doesn't really require too much concentration, I usually look at the middle of the screen, or a little lower.
I tend to follow the arrows when I'm playing something difficult.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by aperson View Post
yolo
supermousie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution