02-23-2020, 03:11 AM | #921 |
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Re: TWG 192: Sunfan's Cool Game Game Thread
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02-23-2020, 03:13 AM | #922 |
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Oh DBP while you're here. I want to know your thought process as to why you started the Xiz train. Was it paranoia? Or was it that you felt like the whole "Finally someone believes Storn is town" was a wolf hit, as in you felt like he knew more than he should have at the time
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02-23-2020, 03:14 AM | #923 | |
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actually that's not really my problem with this post, it's the redundancy and statement of obvious shit like "assuming it's not randomized" I almost expect you to come back emptyhanded and say "well it's impossible to reason about, because it might have been randomized!". You're not gonna get town points for that "The issue being "assuming it's not randomized" Do you honestly believe the kill was randomized? How likely is that to you? FMPOV it looks like a way to pretend to reread his posts and ultimately use the "random" kill as cover. |
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02-23-2020, 03:14 AM | #924 |
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On the topic of reading Storn here, you seem to be of the understanding that he's town? Can I have thoughts on tha lt as well please?
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02-23-2020, 03:15 AM | #925 |
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I'm running out of gas and meds are kicking in... might pass out soon tbh
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02-23-2020, 03:15 AM | #926 | |
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02-23-2020, 03:18 AM | #927 | |
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there's not a lot I can conjure up right now but there's just a feeling his town posts give when he tries solving in his own way. you'll see a bunch of "weird" thoughts that don't sound like they've been filtered through other people. that's my meta on him however given yesterday's EOD he deserves serious scrutiny |
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02-23-2020, 03:20 AM | #928 |
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Yeah I noticed you voted on the grounds that the opinion of Xiz "thanking God Storn was town" felt forced. I didn't get that vibe. I felt as though Xiz finally had something to agree on and converse with you with, but it turned into a 5 vote train
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02-23-2020, 03:21 AM | #929 | |
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02-23-2020, 03:21 AM | #930 | |
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how reliable do you think any of this is? It seems really dangerous to make fast-and-loose conclusions about a nightkill in a closed setup If bolt was a simple wolf kill then I'm inclined to just assume he was a safe target that would never be doctor saved |
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02-23-2020, 03:22 AM | #931 |
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Also a snapshot reads list from.you would be helpful so we can all gauge mindsets going into today
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02-23-2020, 03:27 AM | #932 | ||
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The whole bit about going invisible is such a shitty way to try and pretend you have a point that it's insulting to Shaodw, the rest of the players, and the game itself. While we are on the subject of Storn let me check something |
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02-23-2020, 03:30 AM | #933 | |
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This is a storn-tier town post. It goes against the grain of the current thread state, isolating me as being wolfy when such a thing had not been seriously brought up prior. This is the kind of thought that does not feel filtered through wolf-chat, but rather one that he conjured as a way to expand his own perspective on the game. (In his own weird way) I can't say for sure but I think that wolf storn would consult wolf chat before making a strange accusation, and then COMMITTING to it, and given how storn has been under the spotlight so far, attracting additional unnecessary suspicion to himself with oddball theories is not something he'd want to do. Leading me to think that this is a good-faith read, since ultimately wolf storn has almost nothing to gain with a play like this. I'm not going to clear him for this alone but it is a thing that I would like other players to seriously consider. I think the way to solve him is to press him for reads, not combat with him in an adversarial fashion. If his reads and game-solving start to drop then his facade has fallen. But spending all day arguing about stupid shit that happened yesterday isn't productive at all. The same thing goes for the MML/Raeko spat. If you really suspect someone force them to act in the present, instead of wasting their time justifying past behavior. |
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02-23-2020, 03:34 AM | #934 | |
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I thought this was a shitpost at first but the post I linked above shows at least some level of sincere thoughtful reasoning In light of recent games I'm afraid of overpowering other players into agreeing with me, or making authoritative statements about my opinions, which is why I'm asking for others to evaluate the ideas I put forth so that I don't get tunnel-vision with both town and wolf reads |
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02-23-2020, 03:34 AM | #935 | |
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Man it's kind of hard to read this and think that Storn went on that "Lar has no evidence" kick without knowing that Haku was gonna try and play take-backsies. He seems really intent on being a member of #TeamHaku Inb4 "mml grasps at strays lulz" I guess. |
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02-23-2020, 03:38 AM | #937 |
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DBP we cpntinously asked Storn for reads all day and he read like 2 people and made a bunch of excuses so how long you want me to do that before I'm allow to scum read him?
Lo, Shadow has asked for reads this phase already and he hasn't attempted to answer that, just went on about invisibility or some shit. |
02-23-2020, 03:40 AM | #938 | |
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it's not that the discussions aren't valid, but they feel circular and non-productive, which is why I suggest honing in more on how they feel "today" instead of rehashing pointless arguments for example, force raeko to give current reads and drill her on that. it forces her to generate NEW thought, and if she's a wolf it will expose a gap in her defenses. The Haku discussion about the "claim" feels like the outcome would be decided by salt and frustration instead of actual scumreads |
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02-23-2020, 03:40 AM | #939 |
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Also justifying past behavior is a legit way to catch contradictions and find wolves lmao
DBP I don't know what your on about rn |
02-23-2020, 03:41 AM | #940 | |
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Speaking of wolves I'm going to be mental to assume theres a world somewhere with Raeko/Storn. One of those two feels like a hit to me |
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