Good Morning - Page 2

MalReynolds · 10-2-2009, 04:45 PM

He can't really do it on command, he does it as the job requires. It's something involuntary. I'm getting kind of close to just spilling the backstory.

**devonin** · 10-2-2009, 04:59 PM

It won't matter.

You didn't include the backstory -in- the story.

Having to explain your story after the person has already read it is like explaining a joke after nobody laughed.

The constructive version of the various posts here goes like this:

Leaving things unanswered only works if you give the reader enough information to feel like their own answer isn't just completely arbitrary. If we're left going "Hmm, I wonder what that was" we'd better have at least enough information to -try- and formulate a -reasonable- conclusion.

MalReynolds · 10-2-2009, 05:29 PM

But the point was that no reasonable conclusion was meant to be formed. At all. The back story I came up with was only to satiate the potential need, should the question ever arrive. It has no bearing on the story and was never meant to. The point of the story is about isolation and the past. His job is just a creative means to express this.

MalReynolds · 10-2-2009, 05:31 PM

Long story short: Any answer the reader comes up with is meant to be arbitrary because coming up with an answer just isn't what the story is about.

Another thread I just posted, called: So There I Was is about a guy, just fired, trying to get the attention of people on the street so that he can tell a story. You never find out what the story is, and rightly so - STIW is not about the story the guy is trying to tell. By trying to come to a satisfying conclusion, you're just going to mess your own head up, because the story is not about the story that the guy is trying to tell, nor is about the business that The Narrator works for in Good Morning.

Sol_Solis · 10-3-2009, 09:46 PM

I didn't read the whole thing. Why? Because it moves along with such uninteresting or emotionally not engaging details and ideas. I want relevance, relating with deep emotional details - things that will make it memorable. I want something intellectually deep as well non-emotional things (But not too deep) that offer enough stimulation to keep reading to know how it will unfold. This is my preference and what I think should be littered throughout every story.

Something powerful and moving! Y'know, something that I will look forward to reading as I read it.

MalReynolds · 10-3-2009, 10:18 PM

It's 3 pages long.

It's less than 2,000 words.

I really don't understand where you're coming from.

Sol_Solis · 10-3-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalReynolds

It's 3 pages long.

It's less than 2,000 words.

I really don't understand where you're coming from.

Who is this directed at? Use quotes sir and be more specific!

**dore** · 10-4-2009, 12:33 PM

it's probably directed at the only person who posted after he last posted, which happens to be the post directly above his, which happens to be you

10-2-2009, 04:45 PM	#21
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Good Morning He can't really do it on command, he does it as the job requires. It's something involuntary. I'm getting kind of close to just spilling the backstory. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

10-2-2009, 04:59 PM	#22
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Good Morning It won't matter. You didn't include the backstory -in- the story. Having to explain your story after the person has already read it is like explaining a joke after nobody laughed. The constructive version of the various posts here goes like this: Leaving things unanswered only works if you give the reader enough information to feel like their own answer isn't just completely arbitrary. If we're left going "Hmm, I wonder what that was" we'd better have at least enough information to -try- and formulate a -reasonable- conclusion. Last edited by devonin; 10-2-2009 at 05:01 PM..

10-2-2009, 05:29 PM	#23
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Good Morning But the point was that no reasonable conclusion was meant to be formed. At all. The back story I came up with was only to satiate the potential need, should the question ever arrive. It has no bearing on the story and was never meant to. The point of the story is about isolation and the past. His job is just a creative means to express this. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

10-2-2009, 05:31 PM	#24
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Good Morning Long story short: Any answer the reader comes up with is meant to be arbitrary because coming up with an answer just isn't what the story is about. Another thread I just posted, called: So There I Was is about a guy, just fired, trying to get the attention of people on the street so that he can tell a story. You never find out what the story is, and rightly so - STIW is not about the story the guy is trying to tell. By trying to come to a satisfying conclusion, you're just going to mess your own head up, because the story is not about the story that the guy is trying to tell, nor is about the business that The Narrator works for in Good Morning. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

10-3-2009, 09:46 PM	#25
Sol_Solis FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 660	Re: Good Morning I didn't read the whole thing. Why? Because it moves along with such uninteresting or emotionally not engaging details and ideas. I want relevance, relating with deep emotional details - things that will make it memorable. I want something intellectually deep as well non-emotional things (But not too deep) that offer enough stimulation to keep reading to know how it will unfold. This is my preference and what I think should be littered throughout every story. Something powerful and moving! Y'know, something that I will look forward to reading as I read it. Last edited by Sol_Solis; 10-3-2009 at 09:50 PM..

10-3-2009, 10:18 PM	#26
MalReynolds CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: A Denny's Bathroom. Age: 36 Posts: 6,571	Re: Good Morning It's 3 pages long. It's less than 2,000 words. I really don't understand where you're coming from. __________________ "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline." "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!

10-4-2009, 12:33 PM	#28
dore caveman pornstar Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ridin on a unicorn Age: 33 Posts: 6,317	Re: Good Morning it's probably directed at the only person who posted after he last posted, which happens to be the post directly above his, which happens to be you __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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