TWG 205 - Zero Active Player Dilemma GAME THREAD

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Last words of advice:

You two might end up stuck in a thunderdome anyway because people will probably want to solve one of you two for info and discard what I said.

It's important to look at who is trying to do that and why.

Not just fight to the death because you can.

Noted, ill try not to turn it into a thunderdome despite how much i like them

[FreezinIce]

I honestly expect everyone who has ever played with me to wake up and declare me lock town. This is so far away from my wolf game its almost comical

[FreezinIce]

Maybe slightly delusional but that would be funny to see if nothing else

[star-crossed]

There is a lot going on that is worth digging into but it is going to be some time before I can. I do want to Storn though.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

There is a lot going on that is worth digging into but it is going to be some time before I can. I do want to Storn though.

Rude

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Also hateandhatred giving off "i dont negotiate with terrorists" vibes, but a few things about what he said i find kind of putrid so my joke vote is now a semi serious one

see now this is spicy this time! Putrid what a good word

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I didn't say that. I would be cool with the outcome. FMPoV, the only better one is lynching a wolf. I think the info gained from lynching me might be one of the better mislynches possible.

But I'm still here to play the game, so while I won't do some defensive "here's why you should vote someone else" kinda thing

whyyyyyyyyy did you have to say this I hate this so much lmao

It seems like it should be wolfy but it also might just be straight up bad like lmao you never want to get lynched as any alignment and should always fight to defend yourself! It's TWG!

Oh poor sweet innocent Raeko, I wrote this response before reading that entire exchange and just yikes

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

You two have been playing the game. That by itself makes me happy.

Same I love you guys <3 (not alignment indicative)

Except for Freezi, I think he's town

[storn42]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

whyyyyyyyyy did you have to say this I hate this so much lmao

It seems like it should be wolfy but it also might just be straight up bad like lmao you never want to get lynched as any alignment and should always fight to defend yourself! It's TWG!

Jester

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by storn42

Rude

Guys I found the wolf. The keyword "rude" has been said. Get him. \o

More seriously, gtg work. I was hoping to add more, but not much happened.


glgl

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

You may think your being helpful and a team player but this is why i always remember u dying early, you dont value staying alive as much as you should.

If your human or wolf you should be playing to your wincon and that almost always involves staying alive and helping your team correctly read you (or obfuscating if your a wolf).

Most people judge wolfiness based on a surivial vector and seeing people fold and not fight pressure or demonstrate an indifference towards dying is generally seen as wolfy.

And despite what you think just dying early and having town fixate on cleaning your wagon for a few days is not a good stratagy, especially since its so easy to lay pressure on you that it could be a clean wagon at the end of the day

Is this true? This is not really how I think about it at least. In my mind, a wolf death has more potential to swing the overall outcome because there are fewer of them. Wolves already know who need to survive and them personally is ideally one of them, especially D0 because both have power roles. I at least have yet to see a single wolf on this website say they would be a good informative mishang option. There, however, are reasons it may be harder to genuinely argue on behalf of your survival if it is based on a lie. And I understand that these types of theoretical discussion can be kind of adjacent to who is what in this game, but I am still curious if people agree more with you.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

You would have more success finding the wolf on your wagon yourself rather than expecting people to do it for you. Thats what im really not liking atm, there is absolutely no urgency in your play. You said it yourself that people need very little reason to kill d0, knowing that you should be treating this situation with a lot more seriousness.

When you say your going to wait to see if your still getting pressure later before you address it honestly sounds like a wolf kicking the can down the road due to laziness or wanting to stay utr.

I appreciate you bringing this perspective up.

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I forgot shad hoe god was in this game, and thats a badbthing.

Tbh they are also sus because hes doing that annoying thing he does as a wolf where he just agrees with everyone and doesnt rock the boat or say anything original.

I do not agree with this take, but it will be eye opening to see if he sinks or swims now that the game is starting to progress.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Is this true? This is not really how I think about it at least. In my mind, a wolf death has more potential to swing the overall outcome because there are fewer of them. Wolves already know who need to survive and them personally is ideally one of them, especially D0 because both have power roles. I at least have yet to see a single wolf on this website say they would be a good informative mishang option. There, however, are reasons it may be harder to genuinely argue on behalf of your survival if it is based on a lie. And I understand that these types of theoretical discussion can be kind of adjacent to who is what in this game, but I am still curious if people agree more with you.

its quite dumb to see someones perspective on life as good or bad. Lets be honest If someone is enjoying playing they game they'll want to live, and if they aren't they'll want to die. And someone getting a bunch of pressure put on them as town or wolf will generally not be having a good time. you can talk about the value of their life in the game as a whole for their team but lets be honest, this isn't perfect TWG and 90% of the time they're not thinking about the theoretical perfect play for their team.

[bugkid666]

i feel like hatred and freezin are most likely just t/t like haku said. i like everyone's posts today tbh

haku's comment about lewdy got me thinking, but i know he's been more self conscious about "bogging up thread" lately so i'm comfortable chalking it up to that for now.

looking forward to Force talking more. i will unfortunately also be away for eod. the last like 2/3 hours are gonna be rough for me, as i'll be babysitting. i'll do my best to at least read everything even if i'm not posting

[bugkid666]

if i'm leaning towards voting anybody at the moment it would be storn and force, i'm not gonna elaborate on that right now

[roundbox]

Vote Count
Shadow_God_10 (2) - Hakulyte, FreezinIce
bugkid666 (1) - T-Force
storn42 (1) - star-crossed
FreezinIce (1) - Hateandhatred

unvote - storn42

[Shadow_God_10]

I just got in the office. Let me go catch up

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

Is this true? This is not really how I think about it at least. In my mind, a wolf death has more potential to swing the overall outcome because there are fewer of them. Wolves already know who need to survive and them personally is ideally one of them, especially D0 because both have power roles. I at least have yet to see a single wolf on this website say they would be a good informative mishang option. There, however, are reasons it may be harder to genuinely argue on behalf of your survival if it is based on a lie. And I understand that these types of theoretical discussion can be kind of adjacent to who is what in this game, but I am still curious if people agree more with you.

I do actually believe this, its just also heavily tied to will to win as well and its very nuanced, its not as simple as i made it out to be earlier and its definitely not something i should be judging day 1. The second part of your statement is spot on, having to lie constantly induces something like survival fatigue as the game goes on and leads to some wolves not fighting back or seemingly being ok with dying.


Hatred isnt really ok with dying exactly, he was just commenting on the inevitably of it which isnt the same thing. I just twisted it slightly to mess with him and wring out more info from him.

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I forgot shad hoe god was in this game, and thats a badbthing.

Tbh they are also sus because hes doing that annoying thing he does as a wolf where he just agrees with everyone and doesnt rock the boat or say anything original.

Whoopsie.

Though I DID mention that I would probably have remarkably low activity for this game. If that's what gets me killed today then there's absolutely nothing that I can do about it.

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

I MIGHT struggle with time... I'll be around mostly at night as usual..

In short: I am indeed struggling with time.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

Whoopsie.

Though I DID mention that I would probably have remarkably low activity for this game. If that's what gets me killed today then there's absolutely nothing that I can do about it.



In short: I am indeed struggling with time.

Alright, thats easily fixable now that your here. Just give me your honest thoughts about whats happening and that should make me feel better about your slot

[FreezinIce]

You're*.

Damn it....

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Alright, thats easily fixable now that your here. Just give me your honest thoughts about whats happening and that should make me feel better about your slot

I am slowly putting together a reads list at the moment but sure

I liked the spat between you and H&H. That's the biggest thing that's happened so far all game long and it helped me read H&H a bit better as a result.