TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

idk shado, I read your posts and they all seem plausible but I just don't buy it

part of the problem is a lot of your reasoning hinges on you being busy. and as I said, I get that real life happens, but it's always going to affect my read on players when they don't produce as much because of IRL

That's fine, I understand that my being busy will inevitably affect my posting. Since posts are ultimately the measure we use in reading people, it's only logical that having less time to commit to the game would influence how a person is read.
That's why I'm prioritizing TWG in my free time today.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

and for better or worse, it looks like you passed over FG as a "genuine" toneread, and now it looks bad because she flipped wolf

and as I've pointed out, you made your scumread of dfr, and basically left it there and didn't try to see where he was coming from, which reads to me like you were very ok with the lynch and not trying to think about the possibility where he was town

it still seems like you were soft defending me whenever people pushed on me in the hopes that when I flipped town you'd look better for it

I'm aware of all of that as well, especially considering I was basically the only person reading FG town. I've just resolved to not stress about any of that shit affecting how I'm read, do what I can to solve the game today, and let the chips fall where they may. I feel like we're in a good spot to win this game, even if I'm mislynched today, and almost feel like my slot would be a hindrance in f3 if we were to mislynch anyone else. I'm like slowly coming to terms with how my lynch could be good even as a miss, and basically just wanting to get post-mortem revenge on the bastard that caused me this grief in the first place.

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

the final nail is that you don't seem to be considering a lot of alternate scenarios that could be happening in the case that I'm town

like if you're town, here are some possible scenarios from your POV:

yoshl pushing a scumread on me, then being gone for a while, then coming back in to bus FG is now content to let you and me fight because he knows we're TvT

charu going for a massive bus in the hopes of looking really good and now letting a TvT fight again

DBP sitting on the sidelines after faking his waffling to once again bus

Trust me, I've considered all of those scenarios and more, including the one (not assuming you're town) where you pulled a massive bus on FG yesterday in a successful effort to be read town. Those possibilities are why I reset my reads, and why I'm spending hours combing through ISOs.

[AragakiAyase]

I feel like charu/yoshl/dbp are just watching me and shado fight and it's making me have second thoughts

[Charu]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I feel like charu/yoshl/dbp are just watching me and shado fight and it's making me have second thoughts

Yep, also just got home and I'm on the shitter

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

writing another post right now, but hold the fuck up





you vote dfr, but then here you say you're most concerned about rapta? rapta didn't really post much in between these posts and you only mentioned your scumread about dfr in between here, this doesn't really add up

I thought I had DFR nailed there. Like, I was super convinced he was wolf after the last game I played with him. I don't know how else to say it. Clearly it was a shitty read now that he's flipped, but I would've bet good money on him being a wolf that day, that's why he got my vote.

I was most concerned with Rapta because I was worried he'd be let off the hook as a new player, while DFR and Gradiant had no such excuse.

Either way, I was wrong on all three of those and FG, so it's already been proven that my reads this game have been shit. Hence the reset, despite my ego itching to tell me that the one I'm not wrong on is you.

Either way, we'll see. I should have this post up soon.

[AragakiAyase]

honestly shado's responses aren't bad

but my view of his performance this game is

it seems almost too easy that the only person not intending to vote fg is the last wolf, but...

dbp talk to me, what do you think right now

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I feel like charu/yoshl/dbp are just watching me and shado fight and it's making me have second thoughts

I mean as long as Charu isn't a wolf then we win

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I mean as long as Charu isn't a wolf then we win

and while I doubt that's the case, I guess it's still worth scrutiny

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

honestly shado's responses aren't bad

but my view of his performance this game is

it seems almost too easy that the only person not intending to vote fg is the last wolf, but...

dbp talk to me, what do you think right now

to be totally fair I think YoshL coming in at the last second and then totally complying with a FG lynch looks really bad on him

[AragakiAyase]

dbp do you think I could be partners with FG

[DaBackpack]

It's really poor strategy for wolf Shadow to singlehandedly oppose a FG lynch when even FG isn't there to defend herself

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

dbp do you think I could be partners with FG

no

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

to be totally fair I think YoshL coming in at the last second and then totally complying with a FG lynch looks really bad on him

dunno, I just think that with shado coming and voting me, yoshl as partners with fg could easily have hoped for fg to kitb with you not yet voting

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

btw fg can kitb it here just fyi

This is one reason why I don't think AA can be wolfing with FG here

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by YoshL

what.

this also doesn't feel like a partner like reaction

[DaBackpack]

If AA and FG are partners, I think FG would never self-defend herself here, so AA would never need to worry about a KitB

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

If AA and FG are partners, I think FG would never self-defend herself here, so AA would never need to worry about a KitB

errrr wait isn't this exactly what happened

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

errrr wait isn't this exactly what happened

self-defend as in vote back on me? cause she defended herself a little, but not really

[DaBackpack]

I think my head will explode if AA and FG are actually partners and I don't think that's worth considering today

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

self-defend as in vote back on me? cause she defended herself a little, but not really

she was totally absent for the last 15 minutes of phase

tinfoil mode, she totally could have been tanking the lynch so you would be able to live on, and she didn't actually want to divert attention off of her once it was exactly between you and her

[DaBackpack]

that's actually pretty terrifying