TWG Turbo IX: The Bells of St. Sebastian - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

another question

how does me being partners with fg make sense?

It doesn't. That's why I said I've never been more lost and said I had to go back and ISO everyone

[Charu]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Like literally I said I'd walk away for this exact reason. I can't see anyone else atm. I want to put you at null reread everyone on ISO with my computer, but you keep making bullshit "points" and quote walls with commentary that's indicative of a twisted perspective.

Well you sure are getting pretty flustered about the apparent "bullshit" that he's doing.

Why not take your time and make a case when you can? Like you said you were gonna do, hee hee hee

[AragakiAyase]

I'm going to go take a nap for a few hours

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

Well you sure are getting pretty flustered about the apparent "bullshit" that he's doing.

Why not take your time and make a case when you can? Like you said you were gonna do, hee hee hee

... What even is this? It really looks like you're trying to pit me against him. I never said I'd make a case on him, I said I needed to reread everyone. Why so.. Instigate-y?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

... What even is this? It really looks like you're trying to pit me against him. I never said I'd make a case on him, I said I needed to reread everyone. Why so.. Instigate-y?

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Like fucking lynch me first if you want, there's four of us so we can afford the mislynch. Just promise you'll lynch AA next and I'll gladly jump into the noose myself

Fuck

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[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I'm going to go take a nap for a few hours

BAD! WOLF! WEAK PRESENCE!

HES GONNA TAKE A NAP GUYS AAAAHHHHH

[Charu]

Because the game is solved... least I hope it is.

It's either you or YoshL, don't believe it's backpack after his display and AA is pretty much absolutely cleared.

Which is why I'm letting him do his thing with no question.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

BAD! WOLF! WEAK PRESENCE!

HES GONNA TAKE A NAP GUYS AAAAHHHHH

I know you're joking

but even if you were serious

lol

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

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Yeah how is that saying I'll build a case on you? Just promise you'll reread my posts with a clear head when you wake up and I'll do the same when I calm down

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

Because the game is solved... least I hope it is.

It's either you or YoshL, don't believe it's backpack after his display and AA is pretty much absolutely cleared.

Which is why I'm letting him do his thing with no question.

Pretty much, there's five of us so even with a mislynch we'll still at f3.
Problem is if it isn't AA

[ShadoWolfe]

Then the wolf is pretty well hidden and it'll be a tough f3

[ShadoWolfe]

K bout to head home brb in about 30-40m

[ShadoWolfe]

Home. I'ma eat and start on these ISOs. I hate that turbos basically require you to post in the morning /afternoon or be read scum. Most of my posts in longer games are written after 10pm PST because that's when I'm most free. I feel like all of my best pushes took place really late at night (like 2am), as opposed to turbo timing (like 2pm)

[inDheart]

No votes recorded

Not voting: AragakiAyase, Charu, DaBackpack, ShadoWolfe, YoshL

[AragakiAyase]

idk shado, I read your posts and they all seem plausible but I just don't buy it

part of the problem is a lot of your reasoning hinges on you being busy. and as I said, I get that real life happens, but it's always going to affect my read on players when they don't produce as much because of IRL

and for better or worse, it looks like you passed over FG as a "genuine" toneread, and now it looks bad because she flipped wolf

and as I've pointed out, you made your scumread of dfr, and basically left it there and didn't try to see where he was coming from, which reads to me like you were very ok with the lynch and not trying to think about the possibility where he was town

it still seems like you were soft defending me whenever people pushed on me in the hopes that when I flipped town you'd look better for it

the final nail is that you don't seem to be considering a lot of alternate scenarios that could be happening in the case that I'm town

like if you're town, here are some possible scenarios from your POV:

yoshl pushing a scumread on me, then being gone for a while, then coming back in to bus FG is now content to let you and me fight because he knows we're TvT

charu going for a massive bus in the hopes of looking really good and now letting a TvT fight again

DBP sitting on the sidelines after faking his waffling to once again bus

yes, pretty much all of these scenarios require bussing. but from your point of view if you're town you have to think one of us bussed

also DBP where are you?

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

gut is telling me shadow > yoshl wins us the game

in a distant third is charu????

any thoughts over gut

[AragakiAyase]

writing another post right now, but hold the fuck up

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I hope so. You'll know if you do it



This is a different tone than any I've seen DFR use, and it's right after AA called him out, then took it back and said "idk because he didn't flip out"...
DFR did you roll woof again?


Why?
Read what I just wrote and then respond. It's weird to me that you'd let him off the hook so easy



Pretty confident in DFR rn. Tone is really unlike him and his responses aren't what I expect from town DFR. I just came off a game with this feeling and wish I had pushed harder on it sooner

all caught up again

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Quoting so it doesn't get buried. ^

I'm kinda buying YoshLs claim of a baitvote. Sounds like something he'd do and the rest of his game has read like the pushy town he was in the FE game.

Most concerned about Rapta atm, followed by DFR and Gradiant (his posts so far have all been either brief reactions/responses, or shitposts earlier in the game). Gradiant's contrasting pretty majorly with what I expected to see after his towngame in CLIX.

you vote dfr, but then here you say you're most concerned about rapta? rapta didn't really post much in between these posts and you only mentioned your scumread about dfr in between here, this doesn't really add up

[AragakiAyase]

I get that he's a new player and all but I feel like you would've at least pressured him there instead of voting dfr

[AragakiAyase]

I guess another thing is that your reads have been "safe"

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

First impressions :
Charu being weird but haven't seen his scumtell yet
YoshL I thought was being wolfy for a couple of his responses but he looks town after catching up
AA null but looks towny as usual
Gradiant seems off but I can't place it
Rapta I think actually slipped, kinda don't wanna lynch him D0 but scumlean so far and RNG doesnt care if a player is new
FG posted even less than me so far so null til I see more of her
DFR reading similarly to last game so far, and his big post really brought effortwolfing to mind
DBP I don't even recall having an opinion on will have to reread.

K brb pizza

meta on charu (being weird, but no scumtell)
safe on yoshl (seemed wolfy, but now towny)
meta on AA
meta on gradiant (seems off)
slip but new player (tbf no one wants to go after the new player)
fg null (fair because she hadn't posted)
dfr meta
dbp no opinion

yes I know this is your first impression

let's see how the rest of your reads develop

you point out some examples of tone from dfr (this is a little bit better than meta): http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=452

mention slip/flakey from rapta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=457

a little more quantification of dfr read: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=482

aa meta defense: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=488

yoshl meta read and gradiant meta read: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=517

aa meta defense: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=532

rapta newness and gradiant meta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=546

townread of freezin, but more importantly, notes the interaction between dfr/me and still just chooses to sit back: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=684

a little bit of content on dfr, newness of rapta, aa meta: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=733

d0 is mostly meta, I get that it's d0 but I feel like it's very safe; doesn't really go after the content of the posts, it's even more subjective than normal

d1 is pretty meh, you basically tunnel on me after touching upon t-force, then replace t-force with dbp and leave yoshl/charu alone

also this post feels really fake:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=1104

[AragakiAyase]

ok I think I'm done wallposting