Failure

[-Skooter-]

-This is what the National Guard has much proven itself to be.

Both useless, and a failure.

Before you begin to flame, expressing to me "How I hate the military" I will forewarn you now, that you are incorrect, seeing as I plan to join the military (Navy) within the next year.

To stay on point, I'm obviously reffering to Katrina, and the governments failure to appear, or put forth any major effort in disaster relief, until a week and a half later, in which it's practically too late.

Look at it this way:

New Orleans is built on a flood plane, this is where the entire city rests. Given, this is not the first time this has happened, this is by far the worst. I can honestly stand here and say, that more people are going to, or already have died in this hurricane, than in 9/11. How exactly can such a huge fucking deal, be ignored?


I can say, that for such a large and major disaster America and it's government seem to be taking it lightly, seeing as the major issue in any other state isn't the large amounts of deaths that are occuring or the number of lost homes, and children who are being raped, no, none of that seems to be the most relevant, because what other states are MOST concerned about.. (drum roll).. GAS PRICES.

Now tell me, exactly what are the reasons that the National Guard is just now getting there? What is the reason that Bush is JUST NOW making the effort to enforce military action, prevent theives, save people and start the relief process? I'll tell you why... because he's an idiot. He's the president, and now that thousands of people have died, due to his lack of control, and orginization, all he can do is say "sorry".

Now, to sum up the rest of my anger... One of the major details of New Orleans, is that most of it's residents are DIRT POOR. Over 75 % of them do not own motor vehicles, yet we're arresting people who couldn't evacuate the city in time. HEY DUMBASS, it would've been nice if the government would've provided some emergency transportation to help old, handicap, and poor people leave. It probably would've saved a great deal of lives, and kept a lot of families together.

Keep in mind, that I respect the men and women of the National Guard, and Military that are out there doing what they were sent to do. It's not their fault in the least. However, I do believe, that if America, and it's government would pull it's ass together a lot more could've been done about this then there has been.

I'm thankful that assbag can't be re-elected, he is in fact, a horrible president.

[jewpinthethird]

Something Awful had a good article about this:

Originally Posted by somethingawful.com

Who is responsible? Who should be blamed? All of them. This is a colossal failure of our government to care for and protect its citizenry on every conceivable level. The heroes are the men and women on the scene doing their utmost to help those in need. Coast Guard rescue workers plucking people to safety and Red Cross workers feeding people from emergency kitchens are heroes. The man who commandeered a bus and got people out of New Orleans when the government was woefully impotent is a hero. The woman who smashed the glass on a convenience store to loot bottled water for fifteen kids who should have been absolutely inundated with supplies by then is a hero. The doctors and nurses hand-bagging ventilator patients 24 hours a day in dark hospitals are heroes. In the ineloquent but true words of the Mayor of New Orleans: "Don't tell me 40,000 people are coming here. They're not here. It's too doggone late. Now get off your asses and do something, and let's fix the biggest goddamn crisis in the history of this country." CNN was better prepared to deal with this disaster than FEMA was.

I am ashamed of my country's government in a universal way right now. Republicans, democrats, opportunists, it doesn't matter; they're all guilty in this situation. In a magical world where justice is actually served most of these people would not have jobs in a month or two. Instead the people without jobs will be the millions who have lost everything and found their government with its back turned. Remember that people are still dying because of this incompetence. Remember that when each and every one of these fools appears on TV for a photo op or complains about "placing blame later," because placing blame now is the only hope America has to change the situation.

How could this happen in the richest and most powerful nation in the world?

[-Skooter-]

EXCELLENT read. That seems like a great article, with a lot of strong facts to it. I appreciate the post Jewp...and I agree, but rich and powerful, doesn't make you smart.

[skaterjon411]

I kinda feel this is taken to much. They saw it coming, should have packed thier bags and moved. Its like people living in tornado alley and not expecting tornadoes. Also in the news videos how comei its only black people and 2 white people in the town? Because anyone who graduated high school knew to leave. Hopefully they wont be so stupid to rebuild it the same old way. New orleans has been getting worse and worse for crime that if you go off the main two tourists roads you have a good chance of getting,mugged or maybe even shot. well have a good day

( i find the hig gas prices more of a proplem then this)

[Anticrombie0909]

( i find the hig gas prices more of a proplem then this)

You should be shot on sight, you selfish little bastard. How dare you have the audacity to complain about gas prices when tens of thousands of people are dying in a city that is now completely leveled? This is the worst disaster in the history of the country, and you have the gall to bitch about gas prices?

Why don't you try getting your lazy ass down there and doing some good before you complain. Drink bleach and die, you jackass.

[ImEric12]

Congratulations, skaterjon, you are truly the biggest jackass I've encountered in months.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by skaterjon411

( i find the hig gas prices more of a proplem then this)

Of course, I completely agree. Children are being raped, looting is uncontrolable, and thousands upon thousands of lives are being ripped apart, but who cares?! You have to pay a whole forty cents a litre more for gas. I mean come on, sure the whole situation is a bit bad, but extra money for gas?! THAT'S what the real problem is.

Get out of CT and never return.

[esupin]

George Bush had to cut his month-long vacation TWO DAYS short in response to Hurricane Katrina. What a HUGE sacrifice. I don't think it should be legal for the president to take that much time off the job. Who knows how many vacation days he's taken in 6 years.

[-Skooter-]

I read somewhere once, that George W. Bush has spent more than 48% of his presidency on vacation.

As for the guy bitching about gas prices, here's a fact that you seem to be in denial over: Your user name is "Skater Jon" which probably means, you aren't old enough to drive, and skateboards don't require gas, so what are you bitching about?

This is Critical Thinking, you have to actually think to be here, much less to be welcome in my threads. I don't tolerate idiocy, so I would suggest that you willingly leave, before I have you removed.

[virus-maker]

Originally Posted by -Skooter-

Now tell me, exactly what are the reasons that the National Guard is just now getting there? What is the reason that Bush is JUST NOW making the effort to enforce military action, prevent theives, save people and start the relief process? I'll tell you why... because he's an idiot. He's the president, and now that thousands of people have died, due to his lack of control, and orginization, all he can do is say "sorry".

Because most of the people still stuck in the city are black people. They are the ones who failed to acknowledge the evacuation warning so they can stay behind and loot stores. Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them. That's just my theory.

Also, has anyone heard the recent news story of two black female officers who were looting stores along with some other black people?

[-Skooter-]

You're an idiot. Race, has nothing to do with it, so good job for having Kanye West as an idol, you assbag.

The reason that we didn't go out there and help anyone in the reasonable amount of time that we could have, is because this is America. Our government is greedy and disorganized. Are you telling me that white people don't steal? That's horseshit, because they do, everyday. They're called politicians.

PS. Don't believe everything you read on the internet kid.

[Anticrombie0909]

Originally Posted by virus-maker

Because most of the people still stuck in the city are black people. They are the ones who failed to acknowledge the evacuation warning so they can stay behind and loot stores. Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them. That's just my theory.

What the fuck, people. This is Critical Thinking. THINKING IS REQUIRED.

[birtybirty27]

Originally Posted by virus-maker

Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them. That's just my theory.

Also, has anyone heard the recent news story of two black female officers who were looting stores along with some other black people?

u racist SOB

[Tokzic]

Because most of the people still stuck in the city are black people. They are the ones who failed to acknowledge the evacuation warning so they can stay behind and loot stores. Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them.

Racist fool. People are people. Some people are flawed. Where your ancestors evolved has nothing to do with it.

[180digi]

Originally Posted by virus-maker

Because most of the people still stuck in the city are black people. They are the ones who failed to acknowledge the evacuation warning so they can stay behind and loot stores. Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them. That's just my theory.

Also, has anyone heard the recent news story of two black female officers who were looting stores along with some other black people?

You racist nazi bug eyed motherfucking walking sack of cow-shit. Drown in a bowl of your own urine.

Now that i got that out of the way, it really seems like the government dropped the ball on that one, they should have had tons of troops down there getting people out on the first day this stuff happened. Instead they waited a whole week before they did anything. In one of the strongest countries in the world, if not THE strongest, we have third world conditions in that city. Corpses everywhere, people just put sheets over them.

Originally Posted by -Skooter-

I read somewhere once, that George W. Bush has spent more than 48% of his presidency on vacation.

As my mom once said, why doesnt he cut off his vacation and jump off a skyskraper.

[Kilgamayan]

Originally Posted by lightdarkness

Flame wars. There is a difference between civilized arguments and flaming. Arguments are usually targeted at someone's ideas, flames are usually targeted at a person themselves. Though light flaming is allowed, verbally abusing a person is not tolerated on these forums. Most flame wars continue simply because other people take sides and jump in on the flaming, and if this happens, the topic will definitely be locked. If you have personal issues with someone else, please take it to PM/AIM.

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Posting offensive content. This includes pornography of any kind, disturbing images (if it makes you want to look away, it's disturbing), really gory stuff, very offensive language, goatse, tubgirl, harlequin fetus, etc. Use common sense and decide if it's something that other people would honestly want to see without going out of their way to find it.

Summary: everyone shut the hell up; if this topic gets any worse it gets the axe and the lot of you get warnings.

Now try to have a civil discussion without racism or flaming.

[virus-maker]

Hi I don't learn!

[virus-maker]

I get called racist, nazi, assbag, and that is ok, but when I try to make a legitimate response my post is deleted? What kind of bullshit is this?

[jewpinthethird]

Originally Posted by virus-maker

Because most of the people still stuck in the city are black people.

No, most of the people stuck in the city are poor and had neither the means to leave the city, nor the money to be able too.

Imagine: You are given a 24 hour notice to leave your house. That is all. You dont have a car, and public transportation has been shut down. There isnt anyone you can turn to to help you evacuate the city. Not to mention, you'd be leaving everything you ever owned behind. You've lived through a hurricane before and survived. So staying in the city doesnt seem like that crazy of an idea.

They are the ones who failed to acknowledge the evacuation warning so they can stay behind and loot stores.

Who can blame them? After living through hell on Earth, wouldnt you want a 43' flat screen TV that would go great in your non-existing house which was destroyed by the hurricane? I know I would. Forget the fact that'd you'd be starving, thirsty, and terrified because there is no help anywhere.
I know I can't wait until the big earthquake hits California! I better get my looting gear ready!

Nobody likes black people because they do nothing but burden society and cause problems, so maybe that's why they took their sweet time helping them. That's just my theory.

Oh man, I cant agree with you more. Black people are the scum of the Earth! All they do is cause problems! Because skin color means everything. There isnt one good black person. They are all rapists and murderers. Everything wrong with the world today is a result of black people existing. You know what? Jewish people are terrible too. So are latino folk, and asians too. And Persians...don't get me started on the Persians. And Eskimos. I f*cking hate Eskimos. Hell, I even hate the Irish. Oh, and the French too. Ah, I forgot about the Hawaiians...lazy good-for-nothings. They are like the worst minority ever because they have chink-eyes and dark skin. I wish a hurricane would destroy Hawaii too. I wish there was a hurricane so big, all the minorites (including the Irish and the French...and the Italians) of the world would be blown away. Then only white people would be left. The world would be so peaceful...because white people never do anything wrong. Everyone is always talking about how terrible Hitler was, but he was a true humanitarian, eliminating the world's problems one Jew at a time.

If you think about it, George W. Bush is a great humanitarian too. Not only did he start a war based around the killing of Arabs, but he also is ignoring the suffering to thousands and thousands of black people! If it werent for the liberal media, GWB probably wouldn't have done anything! That's why I hate liberals...they are always talking about "equality" and "peace." They are so stupid. Don't the realize the only way to achieve peace is to kill all the minorities...kill them all, spare no ******, kyke, spic, wop, chink, towel-head, etc...now that's what I call equality.

I could go on-and-on about how much I hate minorities and think they should die, but I'll save my ignorance for the next Klan meeting, I hope to see you there "virus-maker."

[180digi]

Originally Posted by Kilgamayan

Summary: everyone shut the hell up; if this topic gets any worse it gets the axe and the lot of you get warnings.

Now try to have a civil discussion without racism or flaming.

I'm sorry Kilgamayan but i just couldnt let that one go...