jTWG 85 Game Thread: Matrix8 Setup

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

Day 0 will last 48 hours ending at 11:59 PM Central (Server) Time Thursday, July 13th.

Day 0 begins now. or 10 minutes ago oops

wait @sunfan is EOD tonight or tomorrow...?

[bugkid666]

i personally do not see charu's activity as any more or less than usual

[Charu]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

i will say personally i do not take into account "lurking" on thread whatsoever. i think it's a cheap way of making assumptions about player intent. i am personally hidden from viewing thread (as in you can't see my name appear even if i am looking at it) for this reason. some people keep tabs open and walk away, meaning they aren't actively viewing, some people are invisible like me. i think even if someone is lurking and not saying anything that that isn't alignment indicative.

not trying to tell anyone how to play the game ofc, just putting my thoughts about thread visibility out there because people have enjoyed talking about it a lot in the past and i find it entirely unhelpful

It saddens me to say I used to be a player that took the viewing thread function to heart.

But it does tell me someone did click on the thread at least at SOME point.

[Arp!]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

i will say personally i do not take into account "lurking" on thread whatsoever. i think it's a cheap way of making assumptions about player intent. i am personally hidden from viewing thread (as in you can't see my name appear even if i am looking at it) for this reason. some people keep tabs open and walk away, meaning they aren't actively viewing, some people are invisible like me. i think even if someone is lurking and not saying anything that that isn't alignment indicative.

not trying to tell anyone how to play the game ofc, just putting my thoughts about thread visibility out there because people have enjoyed talking about it a lot in the past and i find it entirely unhelpful

fair point
I'm willing to take it into consideration only because we barely have anything to work with so far, but soon we'll have enough evidence that things like this will barely be worth anything
I'm considering hiding myself from the active users list as well because I'm afk like 90% of the time and I don't want people to get the wrong idea

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Arp!

I can maybe see what he's getting at..? the brief interaction between lights and toone initially struck me as odd as well, but I dismissed it until he brought it up again. toone also does appear to be lurking quite a bit

I agree that the timing is at least a bit weird. But he also wrote about a bunch of other things and I don't really understand why he chose that specifically to vote for

Originally Posted by Charu

Eeeeh, wat

I've been plenty helpful and active???

Kinda? Your vibe is different than last game

and yeah I don't really use viewing the thread for reads. But it is odd if someone is lurking a lot and hasn't posted even one time, you'd think they could at least check in or say something if they remembered the game

But I'm on hidden too

[the sun fan]

ok yeah sorry
the phase ends at 11:59 PM Central time tonight, not tomorrow
I had the wrong date earlier oops.

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

So like....random data collect about post count to try to pretend theres a real trend(That's my disclaimer to say don't take this to mean any concrete kind of real evidence...just for speculation):

Looking at who's posted so far and in what kind of clusters...(seems everyone's posted at least a few times)

Light posted up to five times by the time ToonE posted 3 times...then Toon caught up to 5 times.....If I'm correct each of them are sitting at 5 posts right now?

*insert conspiracy theory cork board here*

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

waywardVagabond/Charu/ and ARP have all posted a shit ton from day 1 mostly and scattered throught the later parts of the phase....MellonCollie has been trickled in here and there but consistent.....I jumped in early(forgot about the thread I worked a double bc I work evenings/overnights and sleep during the way (Wolfy af sounding I know but ya gotta do what ya gotta do))...

this doesn't sound sus at all because we all have lives that take precedence it's ok

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I feel like either ARP or Charu could be a wolf....but def not both of them. Or they might have some other game role? Orrrr they just really like to post. Which likelyhood it is, still hard to discern as a reason to vote either of them this early on. I should note that I do see ARP and Charu viewing the thread a lottt(is it fair to make that a read in this game? I forget since last I've played).....Although they could just be keeping the tab open in their browser like normal people do anyways. (would wolves do that or are they into that touch-n-go post tactic.

i've already posted my thoughts about the bold

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I feel like the posting tactic for wolves so far has been a strat like "hey one guy be active in the field, other stay back, and we'll tag team our activity to lessen suspiciousness..."

how would you know what the tactic for wolves would be? we don't know who the wolves are. unless you do

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I mean that's more likely to me than the alternative where both wolves are just equally active/extremely active in thread Day 1 and are like totes ballin unafraid tactic.

So do we look for the quiet and profound? Or the two in shadow? Or the two that are equally vocal?

raeko already said this but we don't need to look for two wolves right now, we need to vote people we find suspicious. once we hit a wolf we can look back on interactions and make conjectures.

this post almost makes me wanna vote you but i don't think this could come from someone who isn't town

[Charu]

Not to mention they're not here to defend/clarify all of that.

Weh

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Charu

Not to mention they're not here to defend/clarify all of that.

Weh

i realize that ((( but i thought it would still be helpful to post clarification on why it felt so weird to me just in case they are here at some point to comment

[mellon_collie]

He's here zomg thread viewing read time

[Lightknight924]

I actually have a litttlleee bit of time to post before walking into work...hurray for mobile phone posts...

Bugkid dissecting my post is kinda interesting, a bit attack'ish with some light self defense...wonder why he felt that was something worthwhile to him since I kinda left him in the "town feel" category...No feelings really about bugkid though just found a slight edge to his thoughts about my post like.

Also yeah it's true my posts in past TWG's have usually brought up a "wtf is this" response by other players...in the sense that scattered brain thought posting is kind of a meta that I unintentionally do and it's kinda pissed off other vets before and made them want to vote me out even when I was town and was exclaiming so......So to that I say please take what I say with a bit of mercy at first bc I'm trying to break back into posting again after a few years.


I have this weird feeling/fear that somehow the hangman's noose is going to come close to my neck before the first Day ends....and I won't be around to defend myself bc of work....so like if that could notttt happen Day 1 I would really appreciate it =D

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I actually have a litttlleee bit of time to post before walking into work...hurray for mobile phone posts...

Bugkid dissecting my post is kinda interesting, a bit attack'ish with some light self defense...wonder why he felt that was something worthwhile to him since I kinda left him in the "town feel" category...No feelings really about bugkid though just found a slight edge to his thoughts about my post like.

Also yeah it's true my posts in past TWG's have usually brought up a "wtf is this" response by other players...in the sense that scattered brain thought posting is kind of a meta that I unintentionally do and it's kinda pissed off other vets before and made them want to vote me out even when I was town and was exclaiming so......So to that I say please take what I say with a bit of mercy at first bc I'm trying to break back into posting again after a few years.


I have this weird feeling/fear that somehow the hangman's noose is going to come close to my neck before the first Day ends....and I won't be around to defend myself bc of work....so like if that could notttt happen Day 1 I would really appreciate it =D

i am not a "he" btw

[bugkid666]

genuinely didn't mean it to come across as attacking btw

[Charu]

I'm just weirded out that you voted ToonE even though you're on record that you find Arp! more sus (and me I suppose).

[mellon_collie]

Hrmmmm don't really know what to make of that response, I wish you addressed some of our actual points/questions

[Lightknight924]

It's just free choice of vote, Charu. I feel like pushing an ARP vote would have transpired a backlash itself as well....Do I need to follow a straight line directive with my thoughts in a post coinciding with my actions with voting to be a town? I'm just lightly brainstorming right now for sake of discussion. Pick me apart as you will, though. It brings a light of interest to why you want to discern truth from me so early on imo...

[Lightknight924]

I'm not even quite sure what the points or questions are to be honest...If there were a highlighted list I could answer it more clearly.

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I'm not even quite sure what the points or questions are to be honest...If there were a highlighted list I could answer it more clearly.

I guess just more clarity in why Toone over anyone else that you brought up suspicion on? How much intuition can you really have on 5 posts?

and if it's mostly because of the lurking thing, do you really think that's a good basis for a vote?

[mellon_collie]

Speaking of lurking... hi Toone! Care to join us

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

It's just free choice of vote, Charu. I feel like pushing an ARP vote would have transpired a backlash itself as well....Do I need to follow a straight line directive with my thoughts in a post coinciding with my actions with voting to be a town? I'm just lightly brainstorming right now for sake of discussion. Pick me apart as you will, though. It brings a light of interest to why you want to discern truth from me so early on imo...

Voting on an intuition vs voting on a highly suspect are two completely different things I think.

I can take your vote in multiple ways due to your brainstorm of a post.

WiFoM is a jerk, let me tell you.