jTWG LXXII: The AniMatrix6 - Game Thread

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by choof

at this point I'm actually thinking zenith is a top candidate from all of the vote swapping and his reasonings have almost always been "omgus" or thinly vieled sheep votes

my votes have all had good reasons

like I said in an earlier post, the fact he was claiming 1-shot role can be thought with this counterpoint of asking a possible jailkeeper to protect him even though he already has 1-shot safety as potential wolf

My eyes are still on him as the best candidate thus far

[choof]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

Why do you sound so certain that Redsludge's role matches his claim? Is it because he's not your partner?

choof

I'm not certain at all and would hammer him; that post was theory

[choof]

if the vote count is tallied correctly in zenith's post
redsludge

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

I wouldn't say seasoned but I have some experience, yes. Cold Kitten got me to play in this game.

Could you tell me where else you've played?

[choof]

if redsludge says mafiascum i'm putting my fist through my face

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by choof

if redsludge says mafiascum i'm putting my fist through my face

mfw choof's face

[reuben_tate]

danceguy, I thought it was pretty clear that choof was talking from a theoretical standpoint, ie if redsludge's claim is true, then that would be a shitty claim. And not wanting to accept the consequent of the statement leads him to not accepting the antecedent, thus believing his claim is false.

That vote on choof just seemed...awkward. Also, Charu (I think?) mentioned something along the lines of how you're not aggressive and moreso observant so the fact that you were so quick to vote after what choof said seems to go against that description.

[choof]

dance is being tsundere

[choof]

I'm just chalking up danceguy's vote to being a pressure vote, I didnt give him a satisfactory answer (ie an incriminating one) so he didnt expand on it

[_Zenith_]

Did Dance vote against choof just because choof's post was a theory he had on the matter of the claim; not even accepting or denying the claim itself?

[_Zenith_]

Doing a vote count one more time before T-Force does it himself just to see where we now stand

Charu -> Danceguy
Danceguy -> Vendetta
storn -> Charu
Danceguy -> Zenith
Zenith -> PrawnSkunk
choof -> Zenith
Zenith -> Choof
Danceguy -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> PrawnSkunk
storn -> Danceguy
reuben -> Charu
Zenith -> UNVOTE
Danceguy -> Charu
Vendetta -> Storn
Redsluge -> Charu
Zenith -> Charu
Choof -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> UNVOTE
Zenith -> Vendetta
Reuben -> UNVOTE
Redsludge -> Zenith
Vendetta -> Redsludge
Zenith -> Redsludge
Danceguy -> choof
choof -> Redsludge

Redsludge - XXX
Danceguy - XX
Zenith - X
Choof - X

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Redsludge

okay I lied I'm actually just a Vanilla Human!

If you are town, this is something you should avoid doing too. If you are not real, but you are town, lying to town that you have a role when your town is a very very very VERY dangerous thing to do.

It gives that confusing data point I mentioned and makes it 100x worse. False information for town is extremely detrimental because it cloudies the town's judgement tenfold. Also, as Vendetta put it, it's considered role fishing to try and make someone counter claim against you (if there is another one in this game).

It's a lose/lose situation for town when you do this.

...

Live and learn I say!

[choof]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Did Dance vote against choof just because choof's post was a theory he had on the matter of the claim; not even accepting or denying the claim itself?

I'm thinking dance didnt catch that I was posting from a theory standpoint

I kinda dont blame him either, I prefaced the post with "the fuck is wrong with you"

[choof]

would it be rude to push for a lynch on redsludge regardless of his role

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by choof

would it be rude to push for a lynch on redsludge regardless of his role

Whatever the case may be standing his role and the claims for/against, he's still suspicious either which way

at least still to me he's suspicious

[_Zenith_]

but I wouldn't put a push on him until we see more posts

[choof]

more posts from whom

[choof]

I'd make a case for a redsludge lynch but I'm out and about atm

[dAnceguy117]

Last post from me for a few hours.

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

danceguy, I thought it was pretty clear that choof was talking from a theoretical standpoint, ie if redsludge's claim is true, then that would be a shitty claim. And not wanting to accept the consequent of the statement leads him to not accepting the antecedent, thus believing his claim is false.

That vote on choof just seemed...awkward. Also, Charu (I think?) mentioned something along the lines of how you're not aggressive and moreso observant so the fact that you were so quick to vote after what choof said seems to go against that description.

Why would you say that's so clear to you? Reread choof's post. If you came away with if-then statements, then you were making an inference. I was considering a different possibility.

I'm curious: how much credence do you give meta-based reads? Generally speaking, do you believe that people who play forum Werewolf can intentionally control their behavior to match or to stray from what others would expect from them?

Originally Posted by choof

I'm just chalking up danceguy's vote to being a pressure vote, I didnt give him a satisfactory answer (ie an incriminating one) so he didnt expand on it

Pressure votes aren't very effective when you already know what I'm trying to do! Shucks.

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Did Dance vote against choof just because choof's post was a theory he had on the matter of the claim; not even accepting or denying the claim itself?

I was trying to point out that, based on the way I read choof's post, choof was outright accepting Redsludge's claim. The theory I was proposing was that choof is a wolf and Redsludge is not; a wolf might be more likely to assume that a roleclaim is real, if the wolf knows that the claim came from someone who is not a wolf.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by choof

oh apparently storn has posted a few times itt can you please put an avatar on

fine. i'll put one on. NOTE: reading through all posts. current progress is here. i'll update when i finish. so stop posting until then :P