Ingame Song Information - Page 122

mhss1992 · 06-22-2009, 04:20 PM

By the way, Twelve is FMO. This is ridiculous.

**TC_Halogen** · 06-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Twelve is a bit strange--some of the bursts come out of nowhere and the chart has really odd patterns. I'm not sure what to call that--that one is totally debatable; 75 or 76...I'm not sure.

EDIT: I'm not comfortable at putting For FFR at FMO--but it's easily...EASILY, the highest VC.

P4U is VC, not gonna even say that's worth contesting.

**EAGAMES** · 06-22-2009, 04:28 PM

Twelve is not a FMO. wth.

**TC_Halogen** · 06-22-2009, 04:29 PM

Don't look at it subjectively.

Don't be like ohIAAA'ditit'saVC, when I see you say OMFG SCYTHE IS HARD IT'S RATO DIFFICULTY (I seen you post that twice as a gesture though).

The way I see it is there are some really strange patterns. You know what though--I actually don't remember there being a lot of bursts. I'm gonna take a look at my replays to see what I think.

who_cares973 · 06-22-2009, 04:29 PM

Twelve is easy and the patterns aren't awkward at all. Some of the bursts seem overdone but nothing fmo worthy in the file

**EAGAMES** · 06-22-2009, 04:34 PM

I'm just kidding when I say Scythe is insanely hard. It's not. I just can't do one pattern that, when repeated a thousand times, I'm bound to get a good.

Regarding Twelve, it's not FMO material at all.

mhss1992 · 06-22-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who_cares973

Twelve is easy and the patterns aren't awkward at all. Some of the bursts seem overdone but nothing fmo worthy in the file

Choprite, None Would Escape, Novo Mundo and the rest. All easier than it.
Edit: Well, I JUST blackflagged 300. My best score on Twelve was 4 goods.
I know it's subjective, but what these songs I mentioned have that can be considered "FMO material", exactly?

**TC_Halogen** · 06-22-2009, 04:39 PM

Alright: yeah--I looked at it. There's only two decently difficult bursts in the whole song. While they are pretty fast, the patterns outside the bursts aren't too bad overall. I'm not sure if I approve of some jumps being jacks in a VC, but those are the only two aspects of the file that are tough.

Comparing length with the short bursts and the few jump jacks, and you get a high VC. Not going any lower than that though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhss1992

Choprite, None Would Escape, Novo Mundo and the rest. All easier than it.

Opinionated.

MinaciousGrace · 06-22-2009, 05:17 PM

itt: ffr discovers the unified field theorem before deciding on a concrete way to judge the difficulty of files

**TC_Halogen** · 06-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinaciousGrace

itt: ffr discovers the unified field theorem before deciding on a concrete way to judge the difficulty of files

The sad truth.

who_cares973 · 06-22-2009, 06:52 PM

wierd jumpstream patterns to you

the file overall flows well without many break aside from jacks and the two bursts

**Patashu** · 06-22-2009, 07:09 PM

I'm not sure if you can even come up with a concise mathematical theory to rank files by difficulty. how do you account for things that are hard because they're really awkward, like the ending speedups in 300?

**qqwref** · 06-22-2009, 07:12 PM

After playing Twelve a bunch it feels like a mid-high VC to me... The bursts are really not all that hard (I can AAA them about half the time) and other than those few tricky seconds it's just slowish jumpstream with a small number of minijacks and rainbow notes thrown in. The song isn't at all long either.

stavie33 · 06-23-2009, 12:54 AM

Look where I put Twelve in my chart, I think it's perfect there, most definitely high VC (75) but not FMO

Prime8 · 06-23-2009, 01:45 AM

Agreed. Twelve is high VC.

**jimerax** · 06-23-2009, 10:09 AM

IMO,
Radical Rat > Momentary Life
La Campanella > CCCP

other than those, stevie's list looks fine.

also, I need to fix YTBM things

stavie33 · 06-23-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

IMO,
Radical Rat > Momentary Life
La Campanella > CCCP

other than those, stevie's list looks fine.

also, I need to fix YTBM things

thanks JX, fixing

mhss1992 · 06-30-2009, 06:24 AM

I bet Yoshi's Cookie feels like a FMO but is considered C due to length... I Can't wait to play it.

stavie33 · 06-30-2009, 12:49 PM

IMO, it feels like VD all around

mhss1992 · 06-30-2009, 02:37 PM

Well, I haven't played it yet. If it feels like a VD and is so short, why is it a C?

06-22-2009, 04:20 PM	#2421
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 By the way, Twelve is FMO. This is ridiculous. __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

06-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#2422
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Twelve is a bit strange--some of the bursts come out of nowhere and the chart has really odd patterns. I'm not sure what to call that--that one is totally debatable; 75 or 76...I'm not sure. EDIT: I'm not comfortable at putting For FFR at FMO--but it's easily...EASILY, the highest VC. P4U is VC, not gonna even say that's worth contesting. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-22-2009 at 04:28 PM..

06-22-2009, 04:29 PM	#2424
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Don't look at it subjectively. Don't be like ohIAAA'ditit'saVC, when I see you say OMFG SCYTHE IS HARD IT'S RATO DIFFICULTY (I seen you post that twice as a gesture though). The way I see it is there are some really strange patterns. You know what though--I actually don't remember there being a lot of bursts. I'm gonna take a look at my replays to see what I think.

06-22-2009, 04:29 PM	#2425
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Twelve is easy and the patterns aren't awkward at all. Some of the bursts seem overdone but nothing fmo worthy in the file __________________

06-22-2009, 05:17 PM	#2429
MinaciousGrace FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: nima Posts: 4,278	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 itt: ffr discovers the unified field theorem before deciding on a concrete way to judge the difficulty of files

06-22-2009, 06:52 PM	#2431
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 wierd jumpstream patterns to you the file overall flows well without many break aside from jacks and the two bursts __________________

06-22-2009, 07:09 PM	#2432
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I'm not sure if you can even come up with a concise mathematical theory to rank files by difficulty. how do you account for things that are hard because they're really awkward, like the ending speedups in 300? __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

06-22-2009, 07:12 PM	#2433
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 After playing Twelve a bunch it feels like a mid-high VC to me... The bursts are really not all that hard (I can AAA them about half the time) and other than those few tricky seconds it's just slowish jumpstream with a small number of minijacks and rainbow notes thrown in. The song isn't at all long either. __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

06-23-2009, 12:54 AM	#2434
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Look where I put Twelve in my chart, I think it's perfect there, most definitely high VC (75) but not FMO __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

06-23-2009, 01:45 AM	#2435
Prime8 Awwwwwww! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacred Heart Age: 33 Posts: 1,581	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Agreed. Twelve is high VC. __________________

06-23-2009, 10:09 AM	#2436
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 IMO, Radical Rat > Momentary Life La Campanella > CCCP other than those, stevie's list looks fine. also, I need to fix YTBM things

06-30-2009, 06:24 AM	#2438
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I bet Yoshi's Cookie feels like a FMO but is considered C due to length... I Can't wait to play it. __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

06-30-2009, 12:49 PM	#2439
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 IMO, it feels like VD all around __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

06-30-2009, 02:37 PM	#2440
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Well, I haven't played it yet. If it feels like a VD and is so short, why is it a C? __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

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