Ingame Song Information - Page 144

who_cares973 · 10-1-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

LW4 doesn't really have anything hard either minus the 32nd burst and offbeat 24th burst.

LW1 seems like a good cutoff.

the patterns in the beginning on lw4 feel really retarded to me but thats probably just me =x

stavie33 · 10-1-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by who_cares973

the patterns in the beginning on lw4 feel really retarded to me but thats probably just me =x

Not just you, they are really, really retarded, that's why I still have 2 goods on it and not a AAA, can't do that beginning worth ****

mhss1992 · 10-4-2009, 09:01 AM

Hey, Jimerax, while you're at it: please, change For FFR to 76.

**jimerax** · 10-4-2009, 10:36 AM

There's little possibility of bumping For FFR to FMO considering the history of FFR.

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-4-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jimerax

well, thx for opinions.

[most likely vc]
SC, Silence, K8107(auto vc if silence is), LW4(100+ AAAs and it's secret)
[likely vc]
GOSW, Novo, Choprite
[probably not]
BNE, STP

need to make a final decision for [likely vc] ones.

also, minor changes of old songs.
Club 81->80
FOTB 79->80
BBevo 80->79
EHHS 80->79
Runny 80->81
4chord 82->81
FFLBF 81->80

I agree with everything. But Going On Spring Wind is DEFINITELY an FMO. It's harder than BKE in my opinion.

**jimerax** · 10-7-2009, 07:25 AM

Well, this is current conclusion of major difficulties.
So those 4 songs are changed to VC.

[VC]
74 SC
75 Silence
75 K8107
75 LW4

[FMO]
76 Novo (yet to be determined)
76 Choprite (yet to be determined)
76 GOSW
76 BNE
76 STP

**One Winged Angel** · 10-7-2009, 07:32 AM

thoughts on disconnected hardkore?

I think that'd make a very good top VC, but some might think the speedier sections might make it low FMO worthy

Niala · 10-7-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

thoughts on disconnected hardkore?

I think that'd make a very good top VC, but some might think the speedier sections might make it low FMO worthy

Get me the token and I'll give you a thought... :P Haha.

**qqwref** · 10-7-2009, 02:57 PM

Novo is definitely VC if the others are; I can see why some people think it's tricky but I BF'd it so it doesn't deserve to be one level up. Similarly I have like 3 goods on Choprite and it's pretty long so that one should be bumped down too. Those are (currently) clearly the two easiest FMOs because they are the only ones I have <5 goods on, so they definitely ought to be bumped down.

who_cares973 · 10-7-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by qqwref

Novo is definitely VC if the others are; I can see why some people think it's tricky but I BF'd it so it doesn't deserve to be one level up. Similarly I have like 3 goods on Choprite and it's pretty long so that one should be bumped down too. Those are (currently) clearly the two easiest FMOs because they are the only ones I have <5 goods on, so they definitely ought to be bumped down.

you stop that right now

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 10-7-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

Well, this is current conclusion of major difficulties.
So those 4 songs are changed to VC.

[VC]
74 SC
75 Silence
75 K8107
75 LW4

[FMO]
76 Novo (yet to be determined)
76 Choprite (yet to be determined)
76 GOSW
76 BNE
76 STP

whaaa, if Novo stays a FMO so should K8107, those end trill jumps are tricky. The other 3 can go down. I see why SC, I just suck at it, LW4, duh that obvious, and Silence, eh, it is easy once you can pick out the patterns.

**One Winged Angel** · 10-7-2009, 05:09 PM

itt: we only use our scores to rate songs

hey guys, fotbb was my second FMO AAA and I got it way before stuff like NWE and LW4 so it should be 73 lollilops

on a serious note, honestly, what do you guys think about DH?

**Hairy Cabbage** · 10-7-2009, 06:04 PM

how can you justify changing southern cross to VC.... there has to be a boundry sumwere, you seem to be making that boundry higher and higher as the top players get better... k8107 aswell.... cmon.

freakOmani · 10-7-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hairy Cabbage

how can you justify changing southern cross to VC.... there has to be a boundry sumwere, you seem to be making that boundry higher and higher as the top players get better... k8107 aswell.... cmon.

agreed with this post

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-7-2009, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

itt: we only use our scores to rate songs

hey guys, fotbb was my second FMO AAA and I got it way before stuff like NWE and LW4 so it should be 73 lollilops

on a serious note, honestly, what do you guys think about DH?

I agree with it being an FMO, bad with my reasoning, but I think it should stay FMO.

Xx{Midnight}xX · 10-7-2009, 06:48 PM

If Southern Cross is a VC then what the **** is a FMO anymore? NWE is Semi reasonable, but Southern Cross isn't at all and then K108? I'm surprised anyone here agreed to that. I mean sure the trills are pretty easy, but PAing them is one hell of a task. You add that ending in and you have your FMO (A low one but still.) I mean all of you need to go replay Southern Cross and remember why it was (IS) FMO.

Solution:
SC = FMO
NWE = The cut off of VC/FMO (But leave it VC)
K108 = FMO but probably the easiest one.

We need to start establishing some guidelines and ****in stick to them. We did it for the 9's lets apply it to the 10's 11's and 12's.

Ideas:
10: None Would Escape (Or Nova Pulsar.)
11: Piano Etude (Gymnastics)
12: Eclipse (Solar) OR Crowpleaser

**Hairy Cabbage** · 10-7-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

If Southern Cross is a VC then what the **** is a FMO anymore? NWE is Semi reasonable, but Southern Cross isn't at all and then K108? I'm surprised anyone here agreed to that. I mean sure the trills are pretty easy, but PAing them is one hell of a task. You add that ending in and you have your FMO (A low one but still.) I mean all of you need to go replay Southern Cross and remember why it was (IS) FMO.

Solution:
SC = FMO
NWE = The cut off of VC/FMO (But leave it VC)
K108 = FMO but probably the easiest one.

We need to start establishing some guidelines and ****in stick to them. We did it for the 9's lets apply it to the 10's 11's and 12's.

Glad to see someone agrees.

**qqwref** · 10-7-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

NWE is Semi reasonable, but Southern Cross isn't at all and then K108? I'm surprised anyone here agreed to that.

I don't really have a choice but to go with it. Obviously I don't WANT every song I can do even moderately well on to be moved down to VC but that's clearly what's going on, so let's just ****ing get it over with already.

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Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Ideas:
10: None Would Escape (Or Nova Pulsar.)
11: Piano Etude (Gymnastics)
12: Eclipse (Solar) OR Crowpleaser

This is reasonable for 10 and 11. For 12, I think the cutoff should essentially be the hardest AAAable file in FFR - 13s should be files that nobody can AAA. Maybe this shouldn't be a well-defined boundary at all; we don't have all that many files of that difficulty, so I think defining a "hardest 12" boundary now might be counterproductive and in the end inaccurate.

**jimerax** · 10-7-2009, 07:39 PM

those 4 difficulty changes make sence to keep consistency between previous high-VC songs.

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Originally Posted by Hairy Cabbage

you seem to be making that boundry higher and higher as the top players get better... k8107 aswell.... cmon.

so how do you think when the boundary is getting pretty obscure after avmiss fix?
then prove if you think those songs are harder than previous high-VC songs.

**kmay** · 10-7-2009, 07:50 PM

we set the hardest VC as For FFR and all of those songs are easier then For FFR i agree with the change although now im not good at any FMO's

10-4-2009, 09:01 AM	#2863
mhss1992 FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 788	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Hey, Jimerax, while you're at it: please, change For FFR to 76. __________________ jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0 Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats) Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

10-4-2009, 10:36 AM	#2864
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 There's little possibility of bumping For FFR to FMO considering the history of FFR.

10-7-2009, 07:25 AM	#2866
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Well, this is current conclusion of major difficulties. So those 4 songs are changed to VC. [VC] 74 SC 75 Silence 75 K8107 75 LW4 [FMO] 76 Novo (yet to be determined) 76 Choprite (yet to be determined) 76 GOSW 76 BNE 76 STP

10-7-2009, 02:57 PM	#2869
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Novo is definitely VC if the others are; I can see why some people think it's tricky but I BF'd it so it doesn't deserve to be one level up. Similarly I have like 3 goods on Choprite and it's pretty long so that one should be bumped down too. Those are (currently) clearly the two easiest FMOs because they are the only ones I have <5 goods on, so they definitely ought to be bumped down. __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

10-7-2009, 06:04 PM	#2873
Hairy Cabbage FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Newcastle, UK Age: 32 Posts: 164	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 how can you justify changing southern cross to VC.... there has to be a boundry sumwere, you seem to be making that boundry higher and higher as the top players get better... k8107 aswell.... cmon.

10-7-2009, 06:48 PM	#2876
Xx{Midnight}xX FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 8,548	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 If Southern Cross is a VC then what the ** is a FMO anymore? NWE is Semi reasonable, but Southern Cross isn't at all and then K108? I'm surprised anyone here agreed to that. I mean sure the trills are pretty easy, but PAing them is one hell of a task. You add that ending in and you have your FMO (A low one but still.) I mean all of you need to go replay Southern Cross and remember why it was (IS) FMO. Solution: SC = FMO NWE = The cut off of VC/FMO (But leave it VC) K108 = FMO but probably the easiest one. We need to start establishing some guidelines and **in stick to them. We did it for the 9's lets apply it to the 10's 11's and 12's. Ideas: 10: None Would Escape (Or Nova Pulsar.) 11: Piano Etude (Gymnastics) 12: Eclipse (Solar) OR Crowpleaser

10-7-2009, 07:50 PM	#2880
kmay Don't forget me Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Age: 31 Posts: 6,491	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 we set the hardest VC as For FFR and all of those songs are easier then For FFR i agree with the change although now im not good at any FMO's __________________

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