TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[MixMasterLar]

Haku

It really looks like you confessed to acting scummy, and are giving no real reason why as town that you would do that.

Not even talking about what Shado is tearing apart right now, just your response to me (in addition to all that shit Shado is tearing apart right now)

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by dadcop2

if you were to say i put in little effort i'd be fine with that. but you said i've put no effort in, which you know is a lie. remaining 2 wolves imo are you and dfr. dfr is on the table until he explains his last reads list, and you're on because i don't like your interactions with haku and i'm taking his side on that. you're really nitpicking his posts in a way i think is unnecessary. yeah, he gave you 5 reasons why he pushed you. are all 5 of them mutually exclusive? no

Lol. Okay, you've put in little effort. Can you answer my question about why you haven't been visibly scumhunting or trying to solve the game now?

Your new reason for thinking I'm scum is that you don't like my interactions with Haku and are taking his side on that. His side is that he thinks I'm town. ???

Nitpicking isn't unnecessary here. Contradictions are how you find wolves. "Lynch all liars" is the only tried and true method of solving this shit, no matter how convoluted it becomes.
Those five are not all mutually exclusive, but two of them are, and the progression on his reasoning was really weird. Pushing him for that is not something you should be scumreading me for.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Also, you say it was all five, but these two contradict each other:

I'm "pushed" you about you not being scum while taking a stance as if you were scum.
Contradictions aren't really a surprise here.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Haku

It really looks like you confessed to acting scummy, and are giving no real reason why as town that you would do that.

Meta is the only reason and I'm pretty sure it's not the reason you're looking for.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm "pushed" you about you not being scum while taking a stance as if you were scum.
Contradictions aren't really a surprise here.

[MixMasterLar]

(tried uploading my actual face to photobucket but my phone ain't having none of that so I guess you guys get google search for "Disgusted" instead)






Also

Shado if you don't at least acknowledge that my big post was a post that was on the bigger side of thing it'll make me very sad

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm "pushed" you about you not being scum while taking a stance as if you were scum.
Contradictions aren't really a surprise here.

What does this mean? I legitimately can't understand what you mean to say.
Also when you explain the first part please also include why contradictions aren't a surprise here.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Shado if you don't at least acknowledge that my big post was a post that was on the bigger side of thing it'll make me very sad

.. what?
What big post?
Bigger side of what things?

Don't be sad?

[Hakulyte]

I "pushed" you about you not being scum while taking a stance as if you were scum.*

I even warned you that I would do this for "your entertainment" because I was obviously going to walk into a minefield.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Meta is the only reason and I'm pretty sure it's not the reason you're looking for.

Ok this has been a long time coming

The focus on self meta, and changing meta, and announcing you aren't following meta on this site is bullshit.

Using "meta" as a reason you don't improve or can't give a passable answer to a horrible action is bullshit.

self "meta" reads are basically nothing but a copout and when I see you do it, or Zenith do it, or DPB do it, or anyone else do it, or anyone in deadchat talk endlessly about adjusting it for next game it makes me sad.

Meta is what you naturally do in certain situations. It may change if you try to improve your game but it's worthless used as a sheild because the very fact that you're using it as an excuse shows that you're too self aware to be naturally doing anything and therefore your fucking meta doesn't mean jack shit to nobody

[Hakulyte]

The idea was that I was willing to take the risk to throw myself into my own fray so you can read me properly.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I "pushed" you about you not being scum while taking a stance as if you were scum.*

I even warned you that I would do this for "your entertainment" because I was obviously going to walk into a minefield.

I still don't understand the first part.
You pushed me about not being scum? What does this mean?
You did that while taking a stance as if I was scum? Why? And how/what does this mean?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I still don't understand the first part.
You pushed me about not being scum? What does this mean?
You did that while taking a stance as if I was scum? Why? And how/what does this mean?

So you can get a read on me, but I didn't expect things to go that way. I was hoping I would somehow do a dumb town tell if I stop thinking and just post whatever that comes in mind.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

The idea was that I was willing to take the risk to throw myself into my own fray so you can read me properly.

Then explain that to me and not like, half of this other stuff you're saying.


......Even if that's true, why not just offer to answer questions in real time or ramble to yourself and post whatever you freeform? As a town that's far easier and less scummy to go about it.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Then explain that to me and not like, half of this other stuff you're saying.


......Even if that's true, why not just offer to answer questions in real time or ramble to yourself and post whatever you freeform? As a town that's far easier and less scummy to go about it.

I should have done that, I just didn't think of doing it.

I can still do it if you want.

[Hakulyte]

Honestly, I thought that this game had enough players doing raw commentary and I was like "hey, I'll actually try to do something relevant".

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

The idea was that I was willing to take the risk to throw myself into my own fray so you can read me properly.

Oh.
If you're talking about responding to my big post, then thank you for being willing to do that to address my points? You kind of had to, because it was a response to your push in the first place.

My questions weren't a minefield though, because my push now is based on you changing your reasoning several times, even where it became contradictory.

Also you said it was for my entertainment that you'd respond while saying you initially pushed for a reaction test, and you've yet to explain that to me (your response was confusing and you said contradictions weren't a surprise).

Just explain this, please:

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Rereading myself made me realize how they're not really as incriminating as I thought it would be.

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I knew I posted garbage in the first place

Without saying that contradictions weren't surprising and without saying that this happened when you walked into the minefield for my entertainment, because those posts are both before your big response to my big post.

[MixMasterLar]

I literally have a headache right now

[ShadoWolfe]

Also MML it's not terribly important but I'm awfully curious..
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=2508

[Hakulyte]

"they're not really as incriminating as I thought it would be" and "I posted garbage" sounds about the same thing to me.