TWG 205 - Zero Active Player Dilemma GAME THREAD

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by storn42

according to the setup friendly neighbor is a 1-shot inno child that can only be sent to one person.

...So when do you...One shot as an innocent child? I'm very perplexed here...

[storn42]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Friendly Neighbour (1-shot only, alternate of Innocent Child): At night, select a target. In the morning, they will receive the following report:

[User] is a Friendly Neighbour. Howdy!

..

[storn42]

anyways, im out for the night. dont do anything *too* crazy while im gone.

unvote

[Hakulyte]

Not gonna lie, I kinda wanna vote someone that's talking about the setup instead of players, but that's kinda mean.

[Shadow_God_10]

Originally Posted by storn42

..

If I'm reading this correctly....The friendly neighbor gets to ADVISE SOMEONE that they are an innocent child?

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm 80% sure I'm wrong about this

If that's the case, that is a HUGE deal for us if that's a thing and we should not let that shit be known as early as now

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by T-Force

Also, to elaborate further on Lewdy's question to me.
I initially picked bugkid over star for a couple reasons.

1.) Bug and I are tight, so there's always the friendly poke.

2.) Bug is also newer, and based on what I know of them, I'd argue more emotional in their gameplay compared to star - who we have seen is a very calculated, logical player. Bug would then be easier to read a reaction off of for that.

3.) I was also going to move off of bug onto star if star hadn't yet arrived, but while I was off doing Survivor Edgic, star showed up (and evidently everyone else).

I see T-Force has not figured out how to exploit my emotions yet.

You thought through your votes quite a bit eh? So for point 2, anything you want to add about your perception of their reaction?

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Not gonna lie, I kinda wanna vote someone that's talking about the setup instead of players, but that's kinda mean.

The setup is information, what are you talking about?

It's not mean, it's counter productive.

Also doesn't mean we can't talk about players either.

Using "they talk about teh setups lulz" as an excuse to vote someone makes you look bad, it's not like you're trying to solve the game but instead you're trying to find reasons to vote for people. Definitely on the sus side there Kukulynas

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by storn42

i mean, i kind of do want to open this door, but idk that ghostkid is the way to do it.

Ghost kid? Not bugghost?
They'd become a literal Shedinja. That rocks.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

For the purpose of my strat, there isn't

also I'm a dumbass, somehow I forgot not everyone would be a power role oops. That means getting an inno child AND a doctor has incredibly low odds

Nvm the strat is trash

Nice save, Halak.

Originally Posted by star-crossed

I see T-Force has not figured out how to exploit my emotions yet.

You thought through your votes quite a bit eh? So for point 2, anything you want to add about your perception of their reaction?

According to Discord, you and I have shared... 199 DMs to each other not counting group chats.

Bug and I have... 31,181. So, no, I don't know how to "exploit" your's. At least not in comparison to someone whom I've spent a lot of time chatting with and learning who they are.

You give me too much credit. My thought was like.. 30 seconds, lol.
But yeah, I thought their reaction was desperate, in a sense.
Like, they were very worried about arriving late - and thinking that EoD was tonight - which makes me feel like they felt pressure to show up and provide content immediately (see: reads list).

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by T-Force

Nice save, Halak.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

The setup is information, what are you talking about?

It's not mean, it's counter productive.

Also doesn't mean we can't talk about players either.

Using "they talk about teh setups lulz" as an excuse to vote someone makes you look bad, it's not like you're trying to solve the game but instead you're trying to find reasons to vote for people. Definitely on the sus side there Kukulynas

You were all on board with Haku finding a tiny reason to vote people earlier; why now are you flipping your perspective on Haku for that?

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by T-Force

You were all on board with Haku finding a tiny reason to vote people earlier; why now are you flipping your perspective on Haku for that?

Same as I said before, I'm trying to make him talk

I haven't changed my read lol, Haku has ways to Haku himself and y'all know this, it's for teh gud of teh gaem

[Shadow_God_10]

I certainly do not want to bog down the thread, so I'll check on this game in about a couple of hours.

Completely unrelated note: I finished Sound! Euphonium, and I VERY much enjoyed it.

[Hateandhatred]

I chopped 6 cups of habanero peppers this evening and then took a shower.

That was over 2 hours ago and I still feel remnants of my trial edition of self immolation

[T-Force]

Bedtime for me.
Hoping to be back home earlier (it's my short day), but I have a couple extra stops to make due to closures today.

I will be back for EoD though.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by T-Force

Bedtime for me.
Hoping to be back home earlier (it's my short day), but I have a couple extra stops to make due to closures today.

I will be back for EoD though.

hopefully you too will get your 100th season point and 1000th career point tonight

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Not gonna lie, I kinda wanna vote someone that's talking about the setup instead of players, but that's kinda mean.

Do you mind elaborating on mean? Don't if you do not think it is a good idea.

Originally Posted by bugkid666

that's a good point tbh. i felt bad for missing the first essentially two days of thread and wanted to contribute something, even if ultimately useless atm

what else can we go off right now but vibes? that's my vibe list. most of them are "I don't know" but that's realistic for me all throughout the game. i get called out for it a lot and i don't care. i'd rather contribute my smallest thoughts now so that i don't regret not saying something later.

the biggest point i think i want to make even if i do get voted here is that a few people have been quick to say "haku definitely town" based on their posts and i think that's a mistake. if anything that gives me EVEN MORE reason to not let them slip by unnoticed. i'm not saying their posts look bad, i just want to encourage everyone to not narrow in on an alignment for anyone yet, especially after one post.

Well, will you review with me what people have said about Haku so far?

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Haku please never change I love you so much hahahahahaha

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

Actually let me go revisit this for a second...This kinda feels a bit towny, if we're getting shit serious right now

(I am unclear if this is saying it is a bit towny from raeko, or Haku)

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

lmao u wot

haku town as fuck

Originally Posted by T-Force

Re: Haku's early votes: The execution, and reasoning, might be a little off, but the intention is good and right.

bugkid666

(Not sure how much intention implies a read? T-Force's mentions of Haku later have a lot of rhetoric with them)

Originally Posted by T-Force

That's.. yeah, that's a weird thing to say.
I think it's safe to say you've got a town vibe on Haku, so does this just stick out as fishing for reaction? Or an attempt to get reads?

I feel like Haku would use it for the latter, but I have no idea how it would work. Hell, I don't even know if it's worth digging into.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I was just thinking about how Haku really takes the whole "a game about nothing that you make something out of" to heart and just goes for it. I love that about how Haku plays lol

(This is kind of explicitly not a read)

Originally Posted by T-Force

Reaction mostly. I feel like that's a good portion of why Haku is doing what they're doing with his votes, and I think that - whether Haku is towny or not - it's a good thing to do. Vote early, and gauge from there, instead of scrambling in the last bit as per usual.

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

I'll trust the others' judgement if you're just known to play like this, but you're already on the defensive and to me that's extremely sus.

The argument about Haku (to me) is that it's weird he would immediately put himself in the spotlight like this and I feel like a scum Haku wouldn't play this way right off the bat, but I don't think he is locked town for anyone. You do however sound like you say this because the logic applies to yourself, as you coming in and dropping a bunch of "feels" (they're not that) like this definitely looks terrible and you know it.

But, again, maybe it is legit your way of trying to make a worthy contribution when there is essentially zero information available.

Sidenote, everyone... When do you guys think we should ask for inno child/friendly neighbour claims? Could help narrowing down the setup, and if someone claims, there's a 1/2 chance we have a doctor to protect it. Of course someone could bluff, but I think it could be advantageous to consider it

Originally Posted by T-Force

You were all on board with Haku finding a tiny reason to vote people earlier; why now are you flipping your perspective on Haku for that?

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Same as I said before, I'm trying to make him talk

I haven't changed my read lol, Haku has ways to Haku himself and y'all know this, it's for teh gud of teh gaem

If Haku's I guess standing out to you as somebody being overlooked, what is your mindset for not voting for them or pressing them more directly (unless I missed it)?

Is there anything that I quoted that comes off to you as more likely disingenuous in the posts above? More because of the reads that I have developed outside of this, the most likely agenda surrounding Haku for me (if there is one) is T-Force using Hateandhatred's Haku read to press him.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

The setup is information, what are you talking about?

It's not mean, it's counter productive.

Also doesn't mean we can't talk about players either.

Using "they talk about teh setups lulz" as an excuse to vote someone makes you look bad, it's not like you're trying to solve the game but instead you're trying to find reasons to vote for people. Definitely on the sus side there Kukulynas

Wolves know the entire setup I assume. Bluffing about stuff in this game won't work. You just want to play clean here and look at player interactions and vote the player you're the most uncertain about to get info.

Talking about the setup gives information about the setup, but not the players. It's an easy way to pretend to be doing something. It's fair if you don't understand the setup, but if you do and you're just asking others about it "for asking" then it's kinda sus to me.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by T-Force

According to Discord, you and I have shared... 199 DMs to each other not counting group chats.

Bug and I have... 31,181. So, no, I don't know how to "exploit" your's. At least not in comparison to someone whom I've spent a lot of time chatting with and learning who they are.

You give me too much credit. My thought was like.. 30 seconds, lol.
But yeah, I thought their reaction was desperate, in a sense.
Like, they were very worried about arriving late - and thinking that EoD was tonight - which makes me feel like they felt pressure to show up and provide content immediately (see: reads list).

10 seconds per reason, not bad. And do not worry, the exploit comment was mostly for my own amusement.

[bugkid666]

i'm also weary about people talking about setup, but more so because there's a stigma behind it rather than the actual problems it presents... i'm also entirely in the dark about the setup, i've read it what feels like a million times and still don't understand, but i think that's.... partially the point? i don't think it's worth talking about d0, maybe even d1 just because of how perplexing it is.

tldr, i am genuinely curious about the semantics of the setup too but don't think we should spend any further time discussing it today. people pushing this: why?

[bugkid666]

star, i saw your question about haku. i'm mobile posting right now but will respond when i'm on my computer and have more time.