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Old 02-24-2008, 04:49 PM   #1
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Default Trill/Jack Practice

I randomly came up with this idea to make a file that pertains to practicing trills and jacks. (I'm not sure if a similar idea has been passed across for just this purpose. If it has, I haven't heard of it.) You can find the download link for the file at the end of this post, but I suggest you read through all of the post. It isn't that long of a read. =P

DarkbearX whipped up a quick mp3 that has 16th beats starting at 50bpm, all the way up to 999bpm. The length of each bpm increment goes like this...
50bpm-140bpm: Two measures.
140bpm-400bpm: Eight measures.
400bpm-999bpm: 16 measures.

There are pauses between each separate trill for a small rest.

Yes, it is pretty pointless to have 16th trills going higher than 400bpm, since anything beyond that doesn't seem within reach to any player. I made trills go up to 999bpm because I figured, "Why the hell not?" You can turn fail off and try to trill that fast if you want to break your fingers off, haha. The file is for practice, anyways, and it isn't meant to be passed.

I included a text document with the bpms used in this file, as well as which difficulty contains each trill. I understand I could have made just one difficulty and had people mirror that trill or turn it left/right, but having a different type of trill per difficulty lets you compare your different top scores per trill setup. I do not have a difficulty that contains a left and right arrow trill. Sorry. ):

Here are the bpms used in this file. (Enable your background to view the current bpm while playing the file.) :

BPMS:

50
80
110
140
170
192
210
240
270
300
330
363
400
430
471
490
519
545
583
620
653
683
720
758
791
817
851
888
925
951
981
999

Also, here are the difficulties containing each different type of trill:

Beginner: Left/Down trill.
Easy: Right/Up trill.
Standard: Right/Down trill.
Heavy: Left/Up trill.
Oni: Up/Down trill.
Edit: Jacks.

Edit contains jacks on one arrow. I saw no point in making multiple difficulties for that when you can just switch your finger.

I also thought of a fun idea involving challenges with this. I will include different ideas in my next post, as well as have a top score list per challenge. If people find it fun/interesting, I'll keep it updated.

Special thanks to DarkbearX for making the mp3 for this. I hope people find this to be helpful, fun, and challenging at the same time. Feel free to post any suggestions in this thread. Thanks!

The file can be found here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=24736

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Old 02-24-2008, 04:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: Trill/Jack Practice

Here are some challenges you can try out. I put the Left/Up and Right/Down trill together because I feel that the style and balance of doing these two trills is pretty similar in comparison to the other trills. If the majority feels that they should be kept apart, then I can make those changes.

Endurance Challenge (See how long you can last.):
Left/Down (Left Hand trill):
1. Black Yoshi - 240
2. remedy1502 - 210
2. charless - 210

Right/Up (Right Hand trill):
1. Black Yoshi - 240
2. remedy1502 - 210
3. charless - 192

Up/Down trill:
1. remedy1502 - 270
1. Kotarouchan - 270
3. charless - 210

Left/Up trill and Right/Down trill:
1. NetJet! - 270
1. HammyMcSquirrel - 270
1. remedy1502 - 270
1. customstuff - 270
1. Kotarouchan - 270
6. charless - 240
6. Black Yoshi - 240
8. mike2727 - 210

Jacks:
1. NetJet! - 192
1. HammyMcSquirrel - 192
1. remedy1502 - 192
4. charless - 170


For these next two challenges, you'll want SM 4.0 so you can see your results after you fail the song. If anyone knows of a way to do this in SM 3.9, let me know.

Accuracy Challenge (Highest score.):
Left/Down (Left Hand trill):
1.

Right/Up (Right Hand trill):
1.

Up/Down trill:
1.

Left/Up trill and Right/Down trill:
1.

Jacks:
1.


Combo Challenge (Biggest combo.):
Left/Down (Left Hand trill):
1. customstuff - 567
2. Black Yoshi - 144

Right/Up (Right Hand trill):
1. MrMagic5239 - 411
2. Black Yoshi - 221

Up/Down trill:
1. Kotarouchan - 654

Left/Up trill and Right/Down trill:
1. HammyMcSquirrel - 606
2. Kotarouchan - 599
3. NetJet! - 344
4. Black Yoshi - 149

Jacks:
1. HammyMcSquirrel - 219
2. NetJet! - 129

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Old 02-24-2008, 04:54 PM   #3
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This is hands down the best song in existence ever.
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Old 02-24-2008, 04:58 PM   #4
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OMG this idea wins. Awesome! I'm going to try this! JESUS
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:02 PM   #5
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Default Re: Trill/Jack Practice

If there are any problems within the file, let me know. I'll be trying out some of those challenges now. =P
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:10 PM   #6
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Awesome, going to go try it now!
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Died at 270 for left up endurance.

Also died at 192 for edit mode (jacks)
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:14 PM   #8
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Default Re: Trill/Jack Practice

It seems like you can't fail in Beginner mode on SM 4.0, haha. I don't know if there is a way to fix that (or if it's just a problem on my end), but SM 3.9 still fails you out, so that can be used for the Beginner difficulty.

Edit: Netjet, post some screenshots and I can throw your name up there. I want people to get into that habit. That way, people will be able to tell how far others have made it, judging by the amount of marvelouses, perfects, greats, misses, etc.

Edit2: Oh, wait. You need SM 4.0 to post score results after failing a song. I guess I'll have to go on the honor system for now, unless someone knows of a way to have your results show after failing a song in SM 3.9.

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Old 02-24-2008, 05:32 PM   #9
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Got to 240 on the standard version thing and on the same difficulty:
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It seems like you can't fail in Beginner mode on SM 4.0, haha. I don't know if there is a way to fix that (or if it's just a problem on my end), but SM 3.9 still fails you out, so that can be used for the Beginner difficulty.

Edit: Netjet, post some screenshots and I can throw your name up there. I want people to get into that habit. That way, people will be able to tell how far others have made it, judging by the amount of marvelouses, perfects, greats, misses, etc.

Edit2: Oh, wait. You need SM 4.0 to post score results after failing a song. I guess I'll have to go on the honor system for now, unless someone knows of a way to have your results show after failing a song in SM 3.9.
You'd have to turn fail off or something, but then it wouldnt show where you failed.
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died at 210 on heavy =(

EDIT: 170 on edit =(
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:39 PM   #12
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I also got the above score for standard, where it shows my combo. You can see it says 535 something
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:42 PM   #13
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I tried once for combo on the jacks. I can probably do better, but not much better. 170bpm kills me.


Edit: Haha, yay.

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Old 02-24-2008, 05:43 PM   #14
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I still almost fail The Privateer....... lol
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Jacks.. ew. How did you get 176 combo hammy? I couldnt do 140 BPM. Died on the one after 170. oh and this: jacks combo
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whoa this looks really cool rofl
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192 on Beginner (left sucks >_>)
210 on Light
270 on Standard
270 on Heavy
270 on Oni
192 on Edit, I can't hold jacks that long >.<

On all the 270 bpm deaths, I comboed until about the middle of the 240 bpm trill.

This is so fun though

EDIT: Just improved my beginner, was in danger at the end of 192 bpm, died within the first 1-2 seconds of 210 :P

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I got around 520-540 or so combo on left hand trill, also got to 270 BPM.
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I am always up for a challenge. downloading.
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BTW, you can set the fail to off on 3.9 and just wait for the song to end to see your results.
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