Why Men Aren't Really Men Anymore

[moches]

I imagine the writer of this article sitting in front of his computer, smiling and rubbing his dick while he looks over his oh-so-wise words. Please tell me more about how not giving a shit about style or subscribing to arbitrary standards of chauvinism - oh, and using social media, the nerve - dooms me to a lonely life spent in basements filled with blow-up dolls and stashes of Playboy.

Women had the conversation about what it meant to be a woman 40 years ago and now it's our turn. When you try to turn away from that conversation and embrace the comfort of an worldview that restricts and emasculates men, it's men who lose.

I'm going to give this the point-by-point rebuttal treatment tomorrow, but for now here's the article.

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/w...y-men-anymore/

There was once a time when men used to be real men. When they dressed with style, when they had a certain honor code they followed that involved treating not only their elders and each other with respect, but women alike. Unfortunately, those days are far- gone — a thing of the past. What we have now is… to be quite honest, I’m not sure.

There are of course certain men out there who still have their affairs in order, but we are few in number. What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

It’s all about character — or in this case, the lack of character. Something has been happening during this era dubbed the “information age.” Social media platforms have taken away the need to interact face to face, taking away the need for actual interaction. This is great in many regards: you can now keep in touch with friends and family all over the world from a handheld device.

However, much of the interpersonal confrontations are now also taking place online. People no longer feel that they have a need to meet in person to discuss their differences; they can now troll each other online. People are using the Internet as a shield, hiding behind IP addresses in order to speak their minds. The Internet acts like beer-muscles. It makes you believe that you are stronger than you actually are, making you more aggressive. There is nothing wrong with being aggressive when circumstances require it.

Personally, when my fight or flight response mechanism kicks in, I always go with fight. It’s not by choice; it’s just the way that I am wired. Online, people have no need to run away because they are already in hiding — so they always choose to “fight.” Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

The same interaction from beneath cover can be seen when we look at the intercommunication between men and women. It is no secret that both men and women alike have sexual urges. Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

Instead of going out into the real world and meeting women, they stalk women on Instagram. People now date online as well. It’s much easier to talk to a woman online than it is in person—or rather, it’s not that it’s easier. Both are just as easy, but for some reason, men now prefer to hide their faces behind their monitors. (Every time I use the term ‘men’ in such context I quiver) It’s out of fear and laziness. Men have become lazy pussies. I don’t even want to use the word pussy because it brings to mind women, who nowadays have much more character than men.

Generation-Y is the instant gratification generation. We want what we want right at the moment we figure out that we want it. We are willingly giving up one of the most important things in life: the waiting period. Having to wait and having to deal with our urges and wants without instantly having them satisfied is what builds character and is what we are now lacking in this fast-paced age.

If we want food, we order it online and have it delivered. If we want to listen to our favorite song, we find it on YouTube, iTunes or Spotify. If we want to watch a movie, we either buy it on demand or stream it online. If we want sex, we masturbate. If we want to have a good time, we do drugs. We have this false belief that doing things faster will give us a life more fulfilled — that it will lead to us being happier. But that isn’t the case. Most of us aren’t happier. We do more, but we experience less. We are never in the moment because we are always considering what we will be doing next in order to not become bored.

Character is most often built during those moments between activities, during moments of solitude and reflection. Men no longer feel the need to pause and reflect because the options for whatever it is they want are only a click away. The options are endless and therefore we never truly experience disappointment.

We never really feel that we are missing out on something because we no longer give things much importance. Jackie never got back to your text message? I’m sure you have several other women in your contacts that you’d equally like to f*ck — once. Then you’ll get bored and move on to the next one. Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Being focused on self-satisfaction will lead to nothing but broken relationships. Real men are not selfish. Real men are just as concerned for the feelings, needs and minds of women as they are for their own — not just women’s bodies and their sexual usefulness. Real men have a well-defined code of ethics and respect that they follow.

How can anyone call himself a man if the last time he had to confront another man — whether it be over a social incident or for business purposes — was before he hit puberty? If you don’t have the twiddle-diddles to approach a woman at a bar in person and have a proper, intellectual conversation, making the woman feel respected and comfortable, then move over for the real men.

It’s awful because women are becoming accustomed to such boys and believing that these pansies are all that is left of our sex. Some great women are settling for these fools and then finding that they themselves have no choice but to wear the pants in the family because their “man” is PMSing. All I can hope for is that the law of evolution will see the world rid of these weaklings, these characterless, hopeless pseudo-men.

Ladies… real men do exist; there aren’t many of us, but we’re survivors and will be around for a while. Come find us.

[Litodude]

bro he's A young writer, philosopher, music producer and DJ he can't b wrong

[Litodude]

LOL

[rushyrulz]

fuck.

[dAnceguy117]

oh no.

I think what's extra painful is that there are arguably some truths woven in with the rest of the crap, which makes it look somewhat legitimate at first glance, which is a horrible thing

[moches]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

oh no.

I think what's extra painful is that there are arguably some truths woven in with the rest of the crap, which makes it look somewhat legitimate at first glance, which is a horrible thing

the ONE good point in this entire thing is about the Internet, but it has literally nothing to do with gender and everything to do with culture not progressing as quickly as technology

the worst part of this essay is the ending: if you read between the lines it's obvious he's butthurt because all of the FAKE men are taking all of the ladies who, in his just world, would be swarming around him. he criticizes men for treating women like commodities when he's doing the exact same thing himself

also the crack about "PMSing" is some bullshit

[moches]

There was once a time when men used to be real men. When their little manly embryos wielded tiny little swords and cut their way out of their mothers' wombs on their own instead of relying on doctors to do the dirty work for them, when they bathed not in Axe Body Spray but in the blood of the lions and tigers they slayed for dinner. Unfortunately, something something Internet Facebook Twitter instant gratification and now men treat women like commodities, which NEVER happened in the good ol' Middle Ages. Basically, all of these poser men are nabbing all of my ladies and I am deprived of pussy : ' (

[rushyrulz]

^ded

[Izzy]

What a clusterfuck. I find it funny how he is basically just boasting about being a "real" man.

Making huge generalizations like this is just stupid. You can't say anything about all males or all females and have it even be remotely true.

[Tarrik]

This guy needs to take a step back and enjoy life a little more, sniff a cock or two once in awhile.

[Xayphon]

Prime example that "men" should not be taken serious as an adjectival term... especially by someone who claims to be a philosopher when all they use as evidence for why men aren't men anymore are probably personal experiences or observations (I'm not sure what to consider philosophical and what not, so if that wall of shit actually applies as a philosophical paper, I'm very sorry). Either way, I'm pretty sure we all had similar thoughts, just not in the context of asking ourselves why we aren't manly. And nobody actually tempted to write it down and publish it on a website like in the OP.

On a more interior note, I'm 100% certain people like that guy are the reason why more and more are losing their "menity", hence why I see a bunch of people hiding on the internet complaining about a shitty school life in particular. But it's especially these kind of people who still think twice as much as they say out loud, while in this guy's case it's probably the other way around

ps:

[...]Although the fighting they do is just about as significant as the fighting I do when I play Call of Duty.

???

[Izzy]

Stereotypical gender roles are terrible for both men and women. It seems much better to me for everyone to behave the way that they choose for themselves and not what society chose for them.

It is always a little painful to see people that are so obviously caught up in societies portrayal of what a women or what a man should be. It is often very blatant how hard people try to fit into these roles so they can be viewed as masculine or feminine.

I find both of these types of people equally unattractive.

[Ninty64]

Why men aren't really men anymore: They all freaking hide behind their monitors like pussies!
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Please Like, Share, Comment, and Tweet (behind the comfort of your monitor).

[L.B.D.D]

it's elitedaily dude

Playground of The HypeBeasts

Obey & Supreme

i know so many college kids who think they're above others in terms of women when in reality nobody gets pussy as much as the fiction-toting online journalist

[Dynam0]

Originally Posted by moches

What people are most often subject to is the company of boys who are refusing to grow up and man up — boys who prefer to play with their toys than to do their part in bettering society, the human race and the world as a whole. These poor excuses for men have the bodies of adults and the mentalities, as well as the social outlook of toddlers. Horny toddlers, but toddlers nonetheless.

So the majority of men now sit in their parents' basements playing video games rather than get an education and start a career? If that's the case then I'd blame enabling parents for letting their son stay for free at their house without making an effort to be self-sufficient. "Shape up or ship out, etc." I'm sorry but when has it been frowned upon to have an enjoyable hobby during your free time while being focused on school or having a job? Time has certainly changed how the job field works; around the time when my grandfather was starting high school ~70 years ago, industries were booming and they needed workers. teenagers -not adults- teenagers were being sought after and recruited from businesses before they could even finish high school. Nowadays most people start their careers well into their 20's and sometimes even 30's, and then will have 5-6 career changes as they go through life. This could open up a whole topic on the value of education though so I'll leave it here

I'm going to stop here though and say that it's useless to even address the other points in bold since you can make the argument that women aren't real women anymore either because they're part of the same social generation/class as men in these regards! So instead I'll address points that are relevant, i.e. regarding men only.

Originally Posted by moches

Men, however, feel the need to get off more often than most women. So instead of having to spend the time to meet a real woman and have actual sexual intercourse, they watch porn.

Yes because watching porn was really possible to do back in the day and men never masturbated anyway. Fuck that, I'm a real man, I'll get myself the real thing, every time and any time I want some. So you're single and want sex? Do what any chivalrous man would do and sleep with anything that walks!

Originally Posted by moches

Men treat women like interchangeable commodities. I do believe that most men still hope to one day fall in love and settle down. But none of them will unless they change their way of thinking and living.

Ohhhhh, you need to be in an invested relationship? Easy, just pressure your girlfriend into having sex with you! After all, you still want it more than her. Actually, women have been taking objectification to new heights in the current generation. "Hooking up" is quite a popular thing now amongst young women, they sound like they really want a decent man to settle down with.


I think the "problem" with today is that the transition into becoming a man (or woman for that matter) is in the midst of shifting to a much higher age. The 16 year-old entrepreneur of the past is now a 23 year-old college graduate with about the same or arguably even less opportunities. I know a lot of young men and women who insist that they will "settle down" when they've acquired a career and are in a stable financial situation. In a world where you need to be mobile to get a job in the field you are focused on, it makes having a stable relationship with a high school (or even college) sweetheart all the more difficult to pull off. This shift of almost an entire decade leaves a lot of time for focus in other areas of life other than starting a career or family (education, bachelorhood, hobbies).

The article itself was poorly written and is indicative of a butthurt DJ who wants to get laid more.

[moches]

okay

i'm sorry

but this fucking Elite Daily site

is making me so mad

Originally Posted by L.B.D.D

it's elitedaily dude

Playground of The HypeBeasts

Obey & Supreme

i know so many college kids who think they're above others in terms of women when in reality nobody gets pussy as much as the fiction-toting online journalist

please tell me that there aren't college students who take this site seriously

[Xayphon]

Better sign up to get some pu$$y

[moches]

Originally Posted by Dynam0

I think the "problem" with today is that the transition into becoming a man (or woman for that matter) is in the midst of shifting to a much higher age. The 16 year-old entrepreneur of the past is now a 23 year-old college graduate with about the same or arguably even less opportunities I know a lot of young men and women who insist that they will "settle down" when they've acquired a career and are in a stable financial situation. In a world where you need to be mobile to get a job in the field you are focused on, it makes having a stable relationship with a high school (or even college) sweetheart all the more difficult to pull off. This shift of almost an entire decade leaves a lot of time for focus in other areas of life other than starting a career or family (education, bachelorhood, hobbies).

I agree with this (and thank you for the serious response to the article). Expectations not quite matching what's a changing reality seems to be an underlying issue. On the other hand, why shouldn't that be embraced? What is so bad about taking more chances, spending more time on finding yourself, and moving past societal norms? I think there's a lot of upside to the current status quo, or more accurately the lack thereof.

[Cavernio]

OMG time to throw off the shield of the internet so I can actually FIGHT, bitches. YEAH!

Nope...no wait, the shield of the internet allows me to communicate more freely than real-life ever has. Not only am I SAFE to state my mind because of my magnificent shield, I can do it more effectively instead of stuttering and trying to remember the word I want to use for 30s, breaking my train of thought.

The ultimate tool of free speech (the internet as we know and experience it today) isn't bad. We finally have the opportunity to live in a culture where we can find somewhere we can be ourselves, a place where discourse can actually happen because we can see aggression and high emotions, take a breath, and step back from it to really think about what someone says, if we want.
But I agree, this IS unmasculine, because masculinity is a tightly ingrained ideal where society tells men what they should and shouldn't be. I would also agree that it's not feminine, and I'm slightly upset, for multiple reasons, that I find myself perhaps agreeing with this guy who views femininity as vibrant and strong, because the internet hasn't broken it down as much as masculinity. Hopefully this is simply because femininity doesn't need breaking down as much because women in my part of the world already broke down their social prison.
I hope I didn't just say something stupid.

[L.B.D.D]

Originally Posted by moches

please tell me that there aren't college students who take this site seriously

sadly elitedaily is the kind of site a lot of frat peeps recommend to their underclassmen

ofc i'm not saying all frats do but there are def. the type of frats (ex. lamdba phi epsilon, SAE) that are filled with swagbeasts hypebeasts etc. kids who talk big nonsense (like the elitedaily writer)