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This is a serious question by the way. What makes his understanding wrong, and what is the "right" way to understand what Ravi said?
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Either way it would be impossible for "absolute morality" to exist assuming that meant everyone followed the exact same moral code. Which isn't true. Everyone has their own opinions of life and their morals are dependent on their personal experiences. Overall in a society you can build some kind of moral standards that are generally adhered to because it is in everyone best interest. Last edited by Izzy; 08-12-2013 at 06:39 PM.. |
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The example he uses to refer back to what Ravi has said is about the sun and it's rising. Well, morality and what causes it's function to be there is what he is talking about. The basis of these two things are different. One happens such as the sun going over head, while the other one is there, but why does anyone live by these things? Nothing then is wrong if these values are not upheld.
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In other words you didn't actually watch my videos that explain why your argument holds no water
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I did.
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Denial is a powerful thing. Let me break it down for you. The weird guy is saying If A then B, if B then C, if C then D must be true. If D is true, then C is true, if C is true then B is true, if B is true then A is true. The problem is that there was a jump from C to D that was a fallacy. |
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How then can denial be a powerful thing? What logical sense then upholds yours over mine? Why do you assume yours is right and mine is wrong? Without something holding these things up, then no matter how well you try to put something together, another's idea can overcome yours.
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What a nice looking black man.
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The tides come in and go out. Explain that.
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The existence of the tides, and the law the governor's their motions. Explain how the tides exist in the first place?
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Actually I am using your logic. The idea that things have no basis of being there, and simply is because we want them to be so. You in the end are stealing from the Christian world view by believe your idea has a stance to be right and not wrong.
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Oh, I was unaware that christianity invented right and wrong. Thank you.
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holy shit lmao
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Actually, Christianity explains why there is a definite reason for right and wrong. If man decides what is right and wrong, then another can overturn it.
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Also what makes your definition of right and wrong superior to others? Evolution has no claim of truth because truth is relative to each man if there isn't a higher power that puts it there.
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You win, you are unfathomably intelligent and I can't find any way to give a rebuttal.
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