So what's the deal here???

**Freak83** · 05-17-2003, 11:13 PM

So, with classical songs, since they're old, are they free use for anyone? Or do you still have to get permission to use it from the people who recorded it? Hyrogashi, you'd know.

Other question, what are you guys using to create and try out stepfiles? Is it neccisary to use DWI because DWI is acting very glitchy for me.

Arch0wl · 05-18-2003, 12:21 AM

If it's a classical peice then it can't be copyrighted by anyone

I use SM CVS to create my songs

MEGAginge · 05-18-2003, 10:28 AM

he means Stepmania btw

www.stepmania.com

but I recommend getting 3.0, not the CVS. I have both and switched back to 3.0 - CVS crashes far too often for me...

Arch0wl · 05-18-2003, 10:31 AM

No, CVS is way better, one of the main reasons is how it fixes the DWI saving bug

MEGAginge · 05-18-2003, 10:33 AM

man every time you finish an arcade run it crashes its ONLY good for creating stepfiles...

**Freak83** · 05-18-2003, 11:21 AM

Hold on, would you still make the stepfile with notepad? Do you have to do anything differently than you do with Nestlekwik's guide? What do you save it as? Etc.

**Synthlight** · 05-18-2003, 11:24 AM

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

MEGAginge · 05-18-2003, 11:27 AM

ok

1. Make a new song folder and copy your MP3 to it
2. Get any DWI file, copy it to the new folder
3. Delete all the song info, leaving just a blank header (you can now use this file for all following songs
4. Open up stepania and select record/sync and select your song
5. Edit as appropriate

You dont need notepad at all except for prepping the file...

Actually, with CVS there may not be an easier way I dunno...

Arch0wl · 05-18-2003, 11:29 AM

Synth when I said classical I was refferring to stuff that was made in the 1700s and early 1800s

MEGAginge · 05-18-2003, 11:31 AM

thats what he was saying. Classical stuff is still being made; but some before 1952 and some after (im pretty sure its 50 years)

**87x** · 05-19-2003, 08:01 AM

hmm.... with all these classicals comming out i might give it a try... i have like a $300 dj program that say the bpm of any song at any givven point in the song... i think that might help me a bit... i also have a rock song that i would like to see if it would work.... i dont have the steps yet, but synth if you could listen to it to tell me if its a good song for the site... i would appreciate it...

MEGAginge · 05-19-2003, 09:01 AM

87x:is it a copyrighted song, as tht would cross it out immediately...

**87x** · 05-19-2003, 09:45 AM

i know the band and i permission to use it... i already talked to them and they agreed to let me use it...

**Hyrogashi** · 05-19-2003, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthlight

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Ok brb, im going to go play rondo on my piano and then copyright it and sue you for all your G moneys.

Freak, None of the song's needed permission yet because nobody has copyrighted them, mostly because hardly anyone can even preforrm Caprice.

MEGAginge · 05-19-2003, 12:55 PM

87x: ok cool i look forward to hearing it.

Hyro: lol they wudda herd it before so theyd just say no. Anyway it xcosts $£$£$ to do so...

**87x** · 05-19-2003, 03:22 PM

i gotta get the thumbs up from synth first....

SotN · 05-21-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyrogashi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthlight

Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded.

Cheers,

Synthlight

Ok brb, im going to go play rondo on my piano and then copyright it and sue you for all your G moneys.

You would only own the rights to the recording, not the actual song.

Anything over 90 years(?) old is in pubic domian. It can be used by anyone for any reason. For example, record it, then sell the rights to a record label.

**Freak83** · 05-21-2003, 07:07 PM

Well anyway, I guess to keep it updated... I've downloaded stepmania and am practicing making stepfiles by doing "Over my Head" by Lit for a starter. Hmm it'd be nice if I get permission to use that on FFR... well like that's going to happen

I have 1 question now... is it impossible to have 3 or 4 arrows on one line in FFR? I did that for one line in the stepfile I'm making so... just want to know.

**Synthlight** · 05-21-2003, 08:01 PM

I believe you can copyright a performance or recording. From what I have been reading this is possible even when a song is out of copyright because of age. You copyright the recording not the song itself therefore making it illegal for some to use your recorded work.

Anyone care to fully read all of this?
http://www.classicalarchives.com/copy.html#copy100

Cheers,

Synthlight

**Hyrogashi** · 05-21-2003, 09:38 PM

05-17-2003, 11:13 PM	#1
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	So what's the deal here??? So, with classical songs, since they're old, are they free use for anyone? Or do you still have to get permission to use it from the people who recorded it? Hyrogashi, you'd know. Other question, what are you guys using to create and try out stepfiles? Is it neccisary to use DWI because DWI is acting very glitchy for me.

05-18-2003, 10:28 AM	#3
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	he means Stepmania btw www.stepmania.com but I recommend getting 3.0, not the CVS. I have both and switched back to 3.0 - CVS crashes far too often for me... __________________ //MEGAginge

05-18-2003, 10:33 AM	#5
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	man every time you finish an arcade run it crashes its ONLY good for creating stepfiles... __________________ //MEGAginge

05-18-2003, 11:27 AM	#8
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	ok 1. Make a new song folder and copy your MP3 to it 2. Get any DWI file, copy it to the new folder 3. Delete all the song info, leaving just a blank header (you can now use this file for all following songs 4. Open up stepania and select record/sync and select your song 5. Edit as appropriate You dont need notepad at all except for prepping the file... Actually, with CVS there may not be an easier way I dunno... __________________ //MEGAginge

05-18-2003, 11:31 AM	#10
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	thats what he was saying. Classical stuff is still being made; but some before 1952 and some after (im pretty sure its 50 years) __________________ //MEGAginge

05-18-2003, 12:21 AM	#2
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 35 Posts: 6,344	If it's a classical peice then it can't be copyrighted by anyone I use SM CVS to create my songs

05-18-2003, 10:31 AM	#4
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 35 Posts: 6,344	No, CVS is way better, one of the main reasons is how it fixes the DWI saving bug

05-18-2003, 11:21 AM	#6
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	Hold on, would you still make the stepfile with notepad? Do you have to do anything differently than you do with Nestlekwik's guide? What do you save it as? Etc.

05-18-2003, 11:24 AM	#7
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	Classical songs can indeed by copyrighted depending on who performs them and the age of the song when it was performed/recorded. Cheers, Synthlight

05-18-2003, 11:29 AM	#9
Arch0wl Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: fb.com/a.macdonald.iv Age: 35 Posts: 6,344	Synth when I said classical I was refferring to stuff that was made in the 1700s and early 1800s

05-19-2003, 08:01 AM	#11
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,379	hmm.... with all these classicals comming out i might give it a try... i have like a $300 dj program that say the bpm of any song at any givven point in the song... i think that might help me a bit... i also have a rock song that i would like to see if it would work.... i dont have the steps yet, but synth if you could listen to it to tell me if its a good song for the site... i would appreciate it... __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

05-19-2003, 09:01 AM	#12
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	87x:is it a copyrighted song, as tht would cross it out immediately... __________________ //MEGAginge

05-19-2003, 09:45 AM	#13
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,379	i know the band and i permission to use it... i already talked to them and they agreed to let me use it... __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

05-19-2003, 12:55 PM	#15
MEGAginge FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 430	87x: ok cool i look forward to hearing it. Hyro: lol they wudda herd it before so theyd just say no. Anyway it xcosts $£$£$ to do so... __________________ //MEGAginge

05-19-2003, 03:22 PM	#16
87x Retired Staff Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,379	i gotta get the thumbs up from synth first.... __________________ RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer. 87x: more like.. professional goth.

05-21-2003, 07:07 PM	#18
Freak83 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,281	Well anyway, I guess to keep it updated... I've downloaded stepmania and am practicing making stepfiles by doing "Over my Head" by Lit for a starter. Hmm it'd be nice if I get permission to use that on FFR... well like that's going to happen I have 1 question now... is it impossible to have 3 or 4 arrows on one line in FFR? I did that for one line in the stepfile I'm making so... just want to know.

05-21-2003, 08:01 PM	#19
Synthlight Administrator Founder, System Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States of America Age: 50 Posts: 3,052	I believe you can copyright a performance or recording. From what I have been reading this is possible even when a song is out of copyright because of age. You copyright the recording not the song itself therefore making it illegal for some to use your recorded work. Anyone care to fully read all of this? http://www.classicalarchives.com/copy.html#copy100 Cheers, Synthlight

05-21-2003, 09:38 PM	#20
Hyrogashi FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Netherealm Posts: 961	... __________________ Dont take life so seriously, You\'ll never escape it alive anyways. Hyrogashiroth - Born on DWI, Raised on Stepmania

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