TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Okay if this is your first game then I am reading too much into this and thats my bad.

Again it becomes very convoluted as to who is wolf from this point. Your play looks bad. thats my opinion.

We good. The instant Zenith came up town I knew it was a HORRIBLE play and I needed to explain as f a s t as possible cuz ya boi paranoid

[123kappa3]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

We good. The instant Zenith came up town I knew it was a HORRIBLE play and I needed to explain as f a s t as possible cuz ya boi paranoid

Allthough if i am going to get off your tunnel which I can understand that you being new everything youve done can be explained then this is very awkward.

So heres the thing you are green, xel green, that leaves me mml and round. we can afford a miss lynched i think. so now we need to figure out between mml and round I guess. because again misslynching me is bad but, Its hard for me to really fight against it still. So I am just going to try to help town as much as possible while im alive.

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Allthough if i am going to get off your tunnel which I can understand that you being new everything youve done can be explained then this is very awkward.

So heres the thing you are green, xel green, that leaves me mml and round. we can afford a miss lynched i think. so now we need to figure out between mml and round I guess. because again misslynching me is bad but, Its hard for me to really fight against it still. So I am just going to try to help town as much as possible while im alive.

Ye, sun was SUPER adamant about MML, however I'm pretty sure roundbox was mentioned at some point, too. I'm pretty sure we've dispelled any suspicions about RB but I kinda wanna hear their case again. It's hard to get any solid reads on at this point because there's a lotta things that kinda didn't come up as we thought they would, like psycho's lynching.

[MixMasterLar]

Kappa why is Xel more clear then Roundbox, in your own words?

[123kappa3]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Kappa why is Xel more clear then Roundbox, in your own words?

For one Xel did say my role without me/antori saying it. Doctor is kind of important so knowing it and not killing me is pretty town. ALso not outing me is untill really a decent oppurtunity is town.

Round box on the other hand has tunneled me/antori pretty hard in the beggining this could be from poor play on my roles part but, no one else was on me. also he voted for the Hateandhate guy for no reason but, tbh this could also be because that guy looked a little sus for me too.


Its just round box has done more rather scummy things then XEl

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

For one Xel did say my role without me/antori saying it. Doctor is kind of important so knowing it and not killing me is pretty town. ALso not outing me is untill really a decent oppurtunity is town.

Round box on the other hand has tunneled me/antori pretty hard in the beggining this could be from poor play on my roles part but, no one else was on me. also he voted for the Hateandhate guy for no reason but, tbh this could also be because that guy looked a little sus for me too.


Its just round box has done more rather scummy things then XEl

I'm pretty sure Antori hinted at the fact he was doctor a while back, just forgot to do anything. I might be reading this wrong though.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

I'm pretty sure Antori hinted at the fact he was doctor a while back, just forgot to do anything. I might be reading this wrong though.

If he did, I missed it both times i went over the thread.

Also him having the foresight to hint the role but not actually do it.....like somehow makes it worst

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Round box on the other hand has tunneled me/antori pretty hard in the beggining

Ah, OMGUS. Aight.

I will admit that Xel has actions backing his claim to town while my read on Roundbox comes from his consistent tone, interactions, other points made by the rest of the game and meta.

That said, I pretty sure that I'm reading him correctly. It's gonna blow my mind if he's a wolf after all this to the point I never gamble the game away on that what if

[123kappa3]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ah, OMGUS. Aight.

I will admit that Xel has actions backing his claim to town while my read on Roundbox comes from his consistent tone, interactions, other points made by the rest of the game and meta.

That said, I pretty sure that I'm reading him correctly. It's gonna blow my mind if he's a wolf after all this to the point I never gamble the game away on that what if

So i want to apologies because i actually missed your big rant about the game and now i can understand a lot of where your coming from. (I dont know how i missed it its a full page.)

heres the thing a misslynch is okay. So how about this we go me or round first then the other next. I feel like this is best action right now.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Round box on the other hand has tunneled me/antori pretty hard in the beggining this could be from poor play on my roles part but, no one else was on me. also he voted for the Hateandhate guy for no reason but, tbh this could also be because that guy looked a little sus for me too.

I'm voting you because of a process of elimination of how I see the remaining player slots. I made a post of my reads at the beginning of the phase. it's right here:

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'll reread of course but I don't see many worlds left in this game

subaru's vigi shot and just

BRUH
I can't see this as wolf I fucking can't


xel fuckin peeked doctor antori but didn't night kill them
the only way xel is a wolf here is if he kept antori alive to be a viable lynch, but no, this doesn't seem likely


lar had the whole host thing and also I've been townleaning him all game
there was the whole zero kills last night but wolves could have just no killed
granted the activity this game, I wouldn't be surprised if wolves just didn't submit an action in time lmfao


antori (123kappa3) feels the worst out of the four easily

it has nothing to do with what YOU did, but what antori did
antori's been intentionally sheeping and not really thinking about their votes all game
several times during this game, antori asked other players who to vote (mostly sunfan) and just piggybacked off of that
antori didn't do much solving past d0 and just played defensive the whole time

as for my H&H vote on d0: ok? his shadow_god vote looked effortless and kinda weird
sorry for being wrong? antori voted Xel d0 on a much weaker case if you really want me to make the comparison

[123kappa3]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'm voting you because of a process of elimination of how I see the remaining player slots. I made a post of my reads at the beginning of the phase. it's right here:



it has nothing to do with what YOU did, but what antori did
antori's been intentionally sheeping and not really thinking about their votes all game
several times during this game, antori asked other players who to vote (mostly sunfan) and just piggybacked off of that
antori didn't do much solving past d0 and just played defensive the whole time

as for my H&H vote on d0: ok? his shadow_god vote looked effortless and kinda weird
sorry for being wrong? antori voted Xel d0 on a much weaker case if you really want me to make the comparison

My point is it looks odd. Thats why i am susing you. the antori vote is bad but its hard to attribute antoris vote to my vote. doesnt really matter what i would do in hindsight so idk what that comparison does at this point.

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Xelicopter

THIS. Is what I was referring to with the bussing comment. I don't give a single fuck about your effort posts. You literally posted about the broad-scale game.

Which is....not bussing.
I legit have no idea what you're even on about

And pal, we all know you don't read long posts. It's always painfully obvious when you're playing with less info then everyone else, so don't feel the need to flatter us with your presence just so we may have the benefit of knowing that you indeed don't read long posts.

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

My point is it looks odd. Thats why i am susing you. the antori vote is bad but its hard to attribute antoris vote to my vote. doesnt really matter what i would do in hindsight so idk what that comparison does at this point.

Kappa, we ain't just gonna reset that slot because you can play better then Antori.

Fair or not, you gotta answer and own up to what he did and said. An "I don't know why he did that, but I feel that...." is acceptable at times but "doesn't really matter because that's before me" is not

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

My point is it looks odd. Thats why i am susing you. the antori vote is bad but its hard to attribute antoris vote to my vote. doesnt really matter what i would do in hindsight so idk what that comparison does at this point.

you said that you found it sus too????

why is it odd?????

you keep contradicting yourself

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

If its anything else then idk. TBH MML you are super op wolf if you are because like the amount of effort you put in is insane for a wolf.

echoing xel: playing like town as wolf is the best way to look town
MML is perfectly capable of playing a good scum game and defending himself, he's not just going to give up, so the point on effort isn't very relevant

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Just to start my progression of thoughts out.

I thought poptart was smarter then he is and so thats why i was tunneling so hard. round box has helped trying to find mafia so i gave him the green. MML i didnt read your big long post and not seeing that I hope you can see why I would still be a little sus of you. Xel I didnt know was still in and forgot about.


From this MML explained his position on poptart. I am inclined to side with him and poptart has tried their best to defend themselves as well. After readying MML big long post I cant seem to think hes a wolf because thats a lot of effort for a very confusing end game to sort out that if your a wolf you probably just want to let it be confusing.

Xel and the know my role is very very town and its hard to get past that allthough not much else has really happened with them besides a few pokes and prods to get info.

Round box on the other hand has done some minor scummy things like voting for people for no real reason that are town allough not strong town still town. Again very good wolf if they are but from what i know right now this seems like where I stand

what do you mean for no real reason? be more specific as to which votes
also: maybe its just your post formatting (your post earlier about my vote H&H combined something I did on d0 and something I did literally at the beginning of this phase), but it seems like you're time warping a bunch of points
in the first paragraph of this, you say you gave me the green because I was trying to find mafia, but the last paragraph you say I've only voted for town-leaning people

I'm just confused as to how you're logically connecting all of your data points

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

This specifically stands out becuase lets say round is red. everyone in this is green. its just a little odd.

what???

there's only one wolf left at this point
of course, if you assume I'm red, then everyone in my reads would have to be green
if I thought Xel was a wolf, for example, the same logic would have me saying "hmm, if I assume Xel is wolf, then this post where he reads every player in the game is odd because they're all green"
this is nothing more than perspective and isn't based in evidence

Originally Posted by Xelicopter

Oh lar thinks i wont vote him

Thats funny

hey man I asked to hear out your biggest reasons for voting lar
plz respond

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

This post looks bad.

Specifically the fact that this is too simple for a town to read a kind of scummy person MML as possible wolf.

can you clarify this? xiz's reasoning felt simplistic. he was convinced FG died because MML wanted to shut her up by killing her, but we have no way to confirm why FG was killed. xiz even admitted it was a bit simple
xiz's dig at sunfan for his role also looked very, VERY dirty when it happened, so that's the biggest reason why I jumped on xiz's case

[123kappa3]

I am super bad at formatting and i need to get better. And I will just give me some time.

Originally Posted by roundbox

what do you mean for no real reason? be more specific as to which votes
also: maybe its just your post formatting (your post earlier about my vote H&H combined something I did on d0 and something I did literally at the beginning of this phase), but it seems like you're time warping a bunch of points
in the first paragraph of this, you say you gave me the green because I was trying to find mafia, but the last paragraph you say I've only voted for town-leaning people

I'm just confused as to how you're logically connecting all of your data points
I have a hard time quoting segments out of whole conversations.

So for the h&h vote and xiz tunnel thats what im talking about with the votes for no real reasons, I know this is going to look misleading as I dont think you voted xiz just wanted to vote him. Both of these you had very small reasons and you were the only person after them at the time. Both were town, both had some bad vibes but not enough to warrent a vote imo.

Originally Posted by roundbox

what???

there's only one wolf left at this point
of course, if you assume I'm red, then everyone in my reads would have to be green
if I thought Xel was a wolf, for example, the same logic would have me saying "hmm, if I assume Xel is wolf, then this post where he reads every player in the game is odd because they're all green"
this is nothing more than perspective and isn't based in evidence

the next quote about you being red and everyone being green it sounded better in my head tbh. From my point of view it seemed you thought MML is green, and antori or kayla was red. This to me seems odd. Of course im looking at this in hindsight whcih sucks but its all ive got right now. It seems odd because kayla is town. and me being antori I would say im town so to me this looks super bad.

Originally Posted by roundbox

can you clarify this? xiz's reasoning felt simplistic. he was convinced FG died because MML wanted to shut her up by killing her, but we have no way to confirm why FG was killed. xiz even admitted it was a bit simple
xiz's dig at sunfan for his role also looked very, VERY dirty when it happened, so that's the biggest reason why I jumped on xiz's case

This last one I actually think is a big one. So what happened was based off of xiz conversation with sunfan and the wierd way it was handled as well as xiz's read on a kind of scummy looking MML (imo) was some scumhunting wierdness that warrented you thinking about voting. and then after that the next day you said should have voted xiz. when they are town.

[Xelicopter]

Originally Posted by roundbox

echoing xel: playing like town as wolf is the best way to look town
MML is perfectly capable of playing a good scum game and defending himself, he's not just going to give up, so the point on effort isn't very relevant



what do you mean for no real reason? be more specific as to which votes
also: maybe its just your post formatting (your post earlier about my vote H&H combined something I did on d0 and something I did literally at the beginning of this phase), but it seems like you're time warping a bunch of points
in the first paragraph of this, you say you gave me the green because I was trying to find mafia, but the last paragraph you say I've only voted for town-leaning people

I'm just confused as to how you're logically connecting all of your data points



what???

there's only one wolf left at this point
of course, if you assume I'm red, then everyone in my reads would have to be green
if I thought Xel was a wolf, for example, the same logic would have me saying "hmm, if I assume Xel is wolf, then this post where he reads every player in the game is odd because they're all green"
this is nothing more than perspective and isn't based in evidence



hey man I asked to hear out your biggest reasons for voting lar
plz respond



can you clarify this? xiz's reasoning felt simplistic. he was convinced FG died because MML wanted to shut her up by killing her, but we have no way to confirm why FG was killed. xiz even admitted it was a bit simple
xiz's dig at sunfan for his role also looked very, VERY dirty when it happened, so that's the biggest reason why I jumped on xiz's case

Hey roundbox

I already said i do not care what order they go

Im not gonna debate the fucking path, game is won unless you're the last wolf

Its actually that easy

This day is pointless if the wolf is one of those two, just give up