TWG 150: Undertale

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

why do I ever take my vote off of Papyrus after he votes for himself? Why do I ask him to take his vote off of himself? Why do I move my vote off of him earlier today (irl today)?

You flip flopped on him a few times so I'm not exactly sure what your point is.
He voted himself, you jumped on him, he unvoted, you jumped to me, then back to him after a string of weird posts and then back to me.

You seem to fall off of him pretty easily all things considered.

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

bullshit. I'm looking at the world's, you just don't like that you're included in them

well, I don't, but I don't see any posts from you analyzing the worlds, just you talking about how you're looking at them

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

well that's a huge stretch

You point this out yet keep me at 2 votes?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

You flip flopped on him a few times so I'm not exactly sure what your point is.
He voted himself, you jumped on him, he unvoted, you jumped to me, then back to him after a string of weird posts and then back to me.

You seem to fall off of him pretty easily all things considered.

I'm probably going to put you on ignore, not because you're being annoying or anything, but I find that I tend to spend too much time responding to people I know aren't my alignment. Nothing personal but pce

[TWG Tsunderplane]

and we're just supposed to intuit who the final lynch is going to be? I don't think so pal

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Papyrus, I swear to god, if Napsta is the roleblocker, you're saying Temmie tonight.

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I'm probably going to put you on ignore, not because you're being annoying or anything, but I find that I tend to spend too much time responding to people I know aren't my alignment. Nothing personal but pce

Lol what a guy
it's ok you're mad that I'm a monster and you're not I get it

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I'm probably going to put you on ignore, not because you're being annoying or anything, but I find that I tend to spend too much time responding to people I know aren't my alignment. Nothing personal but pce

Like honestly this is the most childish stunt I've seen Greg ever pull

[TWG Tsunderplane]

what the fuck is even happening right now

[TWG Napstablook]

"I'm losing my argument so I'm just going to ignore anyone who has a dissenting opinion to mine"

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

and we're just supposed to intuit who the final lynch is going to be? I don't think so pal

I would probably be agreeing with you in that we should be doing at least a little bit of planning if there wasn't a medic claim.

If the roleblocker is lynched, is essentially forces the kill onto Papyrus or myself (the medic dodge), both of which are good, because it has Temmie in final three, which means that the other two living players can make their cases on one another, and Temmie has a 50/50.

If the roleblocker isn't lynched we're a bit worse off, because they can still make the block and the kill in the same night, but the worlds are still pretty readily obvious. Final 5 doesn't have to be a big dramatic planning phase, that's what final 3 is.

I understand that if you are actually town, you have 100% the right to be afraid of voting for Napsta. If you're not going to do it, you're not going to because of that fear and there's nothing I can say that will change your mind. And that's ok, just a bit frustrating from my pov, especially when you're saying "pushing a lynch that can end the game is scummy" because you're not thinking about my pov of "pushing a lynch that is guaranteed to be a human"

[TWG Napstablook]

Watch out Plane you're probably next lmao

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Napstablook

You point this out yet keep me at 2 votes?

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

[TWG Napstablook]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

Oh yeah right because otherwise you'd be incriminating yourself

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Papyrus

this game would already be over if you're a monster, i shouldn't have to say anything else to you

not necessarily since itd still need either temmie or me for the final vote

[TWG Tsunderplane]

Originally Posted by TWG Mad Dummy

I would probably be agreeing with you in that we should be doing at least a little bit of planning if there wasn't a medic claim.

If the roleblocker is lynched, is essentially forces the kill onto Papyrus or myself (the medic dodge), both of which are good, because it has Temmie in final three, which means that the other two living players can make their cases on one another, and Temmie has a 50/50.

If the roleblocker isn't lynched we're a bit worse off, because they can still make the block and the kill in the same night, but the worlds are still pretty readily obvious. Final 5 doesn't have to be a big dramatic planning phase, that's what final 3 is.

I understand that if you are actually town, you have 100% the right to be afraid of voting for Napsta. If you're not going to do it, you're not going to because of that fear and there's nothing I can say that will change your mind. And that's ok, just a bit frustrating from my pov, especially when you're saying "pushing a lynch that can end the game is scummy" because you're not thinking about my pov of "pushing a lynch that is guaranteed to be a human"

thank you for finally understanding my side of the argument

please elaborate on how napsta is guaranteed to be a human

[TWG Napstablook]

Plane you were one of the only people aside from Alphys who thought I was a monster. Personally I think that played a part in why she died, one less person to stand up for me today makes for a pretty easy lynch against me.

So I have to ask with everything you've seen this game and this phase in particular, where so you stand now?

[TWG Mad Dummy]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

thank you for finally understanding my side of the argument

please elaborate on how napsta is guaranteed to be a human

he's only guaranteed to be human from my perspective.

I know that there are 2 humans alive, right? Or there's one in a really unbalanced world in which case we can't lose today, but I don't believe in that world.

So between Papyrus, yourself and Napsta, there are 2 humans.

Papyrus and I are voting for Napsta, you are not voting for Napsta, which narrows down the worlds to the two I posted about already, because Papyrus can be with Napsta, or you can. Its not you and Papyrus, because the game would be over. So Napsta has to be a human from my POV because the only worlds that exist include him.

[TWG Tsunderplane]

there are three possibilities that I can see

pap/dummy - plausible but unlikely now that I think about it because we would have gotten a medic counterclaim from napsta and because it'd be easier to wait for a monster to fuck up

napsta/dummy - my top world right now. dummy vehemently arguing that he hates people who bus like this and pushing so hard for insta has me very concerned that this is reality. the argument that "you don't know my meta but this is never bow I'd play" is pretty much exactly the argument I'd expect to see if a bussing was happening and a new/returning player needed convincing

pap/napsta - extremely unlikely as dummy wouldve immediately counterclaimed medic. the only way this scenario works is if we don't actually have a medic at all, which I'm not sure I believe

are you happy now greg

[TWG Papyrus]

Originally Posted by TWG Tsunderplane

not necessarily since itd still need either temmie or me for the final vote

you know i'm talking from my perspective, not yours, right? if napsta is a monster fmpov you would've insta'd hours ago