TWG XLIX: Another unnamed TWG!?!

[alainbryden]

flaw - correct yourself. TPS has never said or implied that he wasn't the seer. That makes 3.

Then based on my previous reasoning, only talisman is positively a wolf, and TPS is one of the the now 3 people where 2 are wolves and one is the seer.

The guardian is one of the people who said they are human and are not the seer.


Look at me go.

[Tps222]

Look at you go right into the land of wrong.

I'm not part of any of your groupings.

I am a human and not the seer.

[Tps222]

oh right can't edit posts sorry

but yeah, I'm human. Not seer, not guardian. Take me out of your little grouping or it will ruin the questionably subjective method of process of elimination you're attempting to use to provoke conversation with

[alainbryden]

Okay, let's recap.

There's something to be said about the strategy of assuming everyone is telling the truth until there is proof that at least one lied.

Flaw you were wrong about a few. Kilga never explicitly said not seer, just zzzz (I can assume this means plain human, but can't be sure.) Sertman and LD also never said that they weren't the seer.

Thus,
Assuming there are no lies:
01 flaw - Human, Not Seer, Not Guardian
02 Manti - Human, Not Seer
03 kilga - Human
04 talisman - Not Seer
05 FoJaR
06 Stoic - Human, Not Seer
07 jwc - Human, Not Seer
08 sertman - Human

09 LD - Human
10 nija
11 Mamimi - Human, Not Seer
12 Toph - Human, Not Seer, Not Guardian
13 thunder - Human, Not Seer
14 Alain - Human, Not Seer, Not Guardian
15 X3R0 - Human, Not Seer
16 tps - Human, Not Seer

You see, now talisman, FoJaR and ninja have all not said that they are human, therefore this assumption of truth would mean they are the three wolves.

This leaves the posiblility of either LD, Sertman, or Kilga being the seer, and a lot of people could still be the guardian.

There see, there's still a possible configuration of roles assuming everything everyone has said is true so far.

lol, you know I was completely BSing pretending that I thought this proved anything, it certainly doesn't, but I guarantee this information will come in handy.


TL;DR version:
I can still assume that no one in this thread has lied yet without being disproved.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Sertman has been found dead.

It is now DAY ONE. Day one will end at 11:59 PM (MIDNIGHT, EST) on Saturday.

Player list:
01. flawofhumanity
02. DarkManticoreX2
03. Kilgamayan
04. talisman
05. FoJaR
06. StoicRoivaS
07. jwcgator
09. lightdarkness
10. nijatwo
11. X3Mamimi
12. omgwtfToph
13. thunderstrike786
14. alainbryden
15. X3R0H0UR
16 Tps222

[alainbryden]

now LD or Kilga could be seer.

:P

[alainbryden]

PS it's actually possible that LD or Kilga or Sertman (Dead may he be) is the seer, because the real seer probably wouldn't want to be caught lying about not being the seer in case they wanted to come out later. Guardian, do your duty.

[X3R0H0UR]

why in the hell wouldn't they come out to begin with....

[Tps222]

Innactive?

[Tps222]

rofl it'd be hillarious if nija was the seer

[omgwtfToph]

man there are a lot of humans in this game

ps TWG XLIX more like TWG XLAX lolol

[StoicRoivaS]

So, I like the part where no one has said, "wtf sertman lololz".

Allow me to fill in:

wtf sertman lololz

So, who has talked to sert and/or who has sert talked to, because one would only assume this is early game blue stabbing. I've pretty much talked to no one that I can think of. X3ro jokingly accused me of being a wolf or something and then we proceeded to talk about our normal homosexual things. Yeah, that's it so far.

[StoicRoivaS]

Also, I'm sure talisman will want those convos if anyone happens to have any. So be sure not to "lose them".

[talisman]

oh fojar told me on aim that he wasn't the seer.

if it is nija, then that's hilarious. if it's not, then whoever you are you should have come out night one.

[lightdarkness]

not seer not guardian

happy?

edit: not wolf, lol

[omgwtfToph]

not seer not guardian either btw

MAYBE WOLF O_O

I haven't talked to anyone about this game yet. Someone can contact me or whatever. AIM is Oosanbashi.

[alainbryden]

I agree that going for Sertman seems retarded unless the wolves don't think there's enough valuable people to risk going for one, or they knew secretly that Sertman was something special.

As to why the seer wouldn't just come out, I have a simple reason - not everything talisman says goes. While his strategy works, potentially, it's not entirely appealing to the seer.

If I were the seer, my strategy would probably be to keep it a secret, collect any information I could, until either I were at risk of being lynched, or there was a point when I could tell 3 or 4 people who I most trusted at the moment because I felt I had something useful to contribute.

If you come out as seer before then, you're not doing anyone any favours because you don't know jack about anything yet, any more than a normal human does, and also all you're doing is forcing the guardian to always have protecting you in high consideration, and giving the wolves free dibs on many other valuable players that are now at lesser odds of being guarded.

That's why if I were the seer, I wouldn't come out, in fact, I might even lie about it at first. That's probably why the seer hasn't come out yet, and won't until he has a good reason.

That being said, the seer probably isn't a Newb sheep like most of the players that would have followed Talisman's advice to the T.

[Kilgamayan]

Given the pregame circumstances, I seriously doubt DBP wouldn't reroll for a seer if it came up nija.

[X3R0H0UR]

Originally Posted by alainbryden

I agree that going for Sertman seems retarded unless the wolves don't think there's enough valuable people to risk going for one, or they knew secretly that Sertman was something special.

As to why the seer wouldn't just come out, I have a simple reason - not everything talisman says goes. While his strategy works, potentially, it's not entirely appealing to the seer.

If I were the seer, my strategy would probably be to keep it a secret, collect any information I could, until either I were at risk of being lynched, or there was a point when I could tell 3 or 4 people who I most trusted at the moment because I felt I had something useful to contribute.

If you come out as seer before then, you're not doing anyone any favours because you don't know jack about anything yet, any more than a normal human does, and also all you're doing is forcing the guardian to always have protecting you in high consideration, and giving the wolves free dibs on many other valuable players that are now at lesser odds of being guarded.

That's why if I were the seer, I wouldn't come out, in fact, I might even lie about it at first. That's probably why the seer hasn't come out yet, and won't until he has a good reason.

That being said, the seer probably isn't a Newb sheep like most of the players that would have followed Talisman's advice to the T.

Well that person is unnecessarily running the risk of them getting wolfed. We only have 1 seer, we do have a ton of meat to throw at the wolves so we figure out who they are.

[FoJaR]

hey all, not the seer here.
gonna look through the posts, and i'll post again.