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Old 04-18-2016, 10:10 PM   #261
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maybe I'm in the minority but I don't feel right allowing "non-diagetic information" (so to speak) to inform my reads in a game; reads ideally should come from player behaviors and interactions, not artifacts of the forum mechanics and such
is ignoring another player not a behavior
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is ignoring another player not a behavior
is ignoring another player not an interaction
so is threatening to post your PM

it's a behavior/interaction that could potentially break the game if the meta catches on

which I classify as a forum artifact

EDIT: well, it's a little bit different, but I think it's the same kind of principle

abusing a forum deficiency in order to gain strategic advantage

EDIT EDIT: I actually don't have any strong opinion on the matter, but I don't think it should be dismissed as trivial like it has been
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:52 PM   #264
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"I'm going to put you on ignore if you keep doing [x]" or just straight up "I'm going to to put you on ignore"

"I'm going to stop reading your posts if you keep doing [x]"

I fail to see a distinction here
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"I'm going to put you on ignore if you keep doing [x]" or just straight up "I'm going to to put you on ignore"

"I'm going to stop reading your posts if you keep doing [x]"

I fail to see a distinction here
I think there's a distinction in connotation there, the first is a stronger statement imo

and (I don't remember who, sorry) mentioned that you putting someone on ignore was an action that in and of itself was considered towny --- if (and I'm not sure if this is the case) something like that "gains meta", you'd have more people ignoring each other (or pretending to) and that would be kind of a mess
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:58 PM   #266
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if (and I'm not sure if this is the case) something like that "gains meta", you'd have more people ignoring each other (or pretending to) and that would be kind of a mess
though admittedly I can't see this happening all too often, and if it did, it would fade into obscurity as people realized how stupid assigning town points to that action -as a rule- is

edit: the situation I want to avoid is "press this button to gain town points", especially when that action done en masse would have chaotic results

as long as everyone understands that the ignore feature is not something to exploit, I think we'll be OK
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And how you could potentially glean information about players from whether or not they view the thread during the night phase, which yeah sure you could always turn invisible, but certain players can still see invisible players (this is something I wanted to bring up eventually, it leads to asymmetry if not all players can view invisible users in TWG imo)
super agreed, especially on the last part, it's turrible
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I think ignoring players is probably not worthy of being made illegal. I've even done it before, against Bowser's fake Seer claim in the Smash game.

Lurker MVP imo. I made a point before I died of saying "WHY IS NOBODY CONSIDERING PAPYRUS?" Completely dodged the gun the entire game.
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though admittedly I can't see this happening all too often, and if it did, it would fade into obscurity as people realized how stupid assigning town points to that action -as a rule- is
I was gonna mention this. plus I find the idea of it catching on even briefly kind of amusing. like maybe I would try to policy lynch someone for doing it because lol?

also I feel like outlawing this would be very difficult to enforce. do you punish someone for actually using the ignore function but not telling any of the other players they did it? (btw how would you find out?) do you punish someone if they don't actually put someone on ignore but tell everyone they did it?

you make some gud points though. but idk I think it's pretty low on the list of possible rule additions that could be considered.

plus having players deal with this kind of thing the way they want to in-game can be fun. like when fiction made it very clear to everyone in OOT games that he would never send conversation logs to anyone regardless of his alignment/role. or like when afrobean would lynch anyone who told any kind of fib. except this would be more fun I think.
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:14 PM   #271
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I was gonna mention this. plus I find the idea of it catching on even briefly kind of amusing. like maybe I would try to policy lynch someone for doing it because lol?

also I feel like outlawing this would be very difficult to enforce. do you punish someone for actually using the ignore function but not telling any of the other players they did it? (btw how would you find out?) do you punish someone if they don't actually put someone on ignore but tell everyone they did it?

you make some gud points though. but idk I think it's pretty low on the list of possible rule additions that could be considered.

plus having players deal with this kind of thing the way they want to in-game can be fun. like when fiction made it very clear to everyone in OOT games that he would never send conversation logs to anyone regardless of his alignment/role. or like when afrobean would lynch anyone who told any kind of fib. except this would be more fun I think.
yeah I don't think it should be considered as a rule

I just think it would be annoying if it happened regularly but that's just my opinion
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i feel like this is the wrong thread for the ignore discussion but maybe that's just me
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One day, I will participate in a TWG (I never know when these start, ugh) and get my ass handed to me. Please.
very soon the host voting will start and someone will get voted to host the next game. then signups for the game. this is basically the time to jump in if you're going to since we're between games and who knows how long the next one will take
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guys, you're doing it wrong
the proper way is to spam when gaem until the host puts the voting thread up
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