Renard Queenston is a sex offender

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Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

It's easy to say this when your life, generally speaking (everybody can list tons of specific examples of how their life isn't perfect), is pretty well accommodated for in comparison to others.

was that a thinly veiled "check ur priv"

i'm on to you, plipadip

[adlp]

born with penis=male
born with vagina=female

some males have very feminine traits and some women are very masculine. not necessarily a bad thing

no need to complicate things over a tiny group's feelings getting hurt because they wish they were the other gender because the grass is obviously greener on the other side of the fence

[choof]

not surprising

[devonin]

born with stupid old-fashioned ideas being fed into them: unfortunate
keeping them even when it is obvious that they are ignorant: tragic

[choof]

posting after devonin: priceless

use mastercard

[Cavernio]

Originally Posted by devonin

Why on earth do you assume that a gender neutral bathroom would have openly exposed urinals?

I've been in single-gender bathrooms where every place you could go to the bathroom was an enclosed room with a door, a lock, and floor-to-ceiling walls.

There is no reason at all that almost everywhere that has bathrooms couldn't condense them into 75 or 80% of the number of gender-neutral bathrooms.

Because urinals make sense. They're faster, save water, and probably save piss from getting all over seats.

Line-ups for washrooms will be longer for men if they have to wait with women at busy restrooms.

[adlp]

i have a confession im a girl. I knew this the whole time because it felt right to me. I wish to be referred to as a She now.

thank you all and god bless

[Cavernio]

Originally Posted by adlp

born with penis=male
born with vagina=female

some males have very feminine traits and some women are very masculine. not necessarily a bad thing

no need to complicate things over a tiny group's feelings getting hurt because they wish they were the other gender because the grass is obviously greener on the other side of the fence

You're wrong about a very important thing. Trans people want a different SEX, (I think, I shouldn't speak for all of them) not just a different gender. This is why they do things like have sex transitions, because their SEX isn't what their mind tells them it is.

[dAnceguy117]

cavernio, transgender != transsexual

[Cavernio]

sheepish face

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they also clog way too easily

[choof]

i meanurinals not trans people

[devonin]

Originally Posted by Cavernio

Because urinals make sense. They're faster, save water, and probably save piss from getting all over seats.

Line-ups for washrooms will be longer for men if they have to wait with women at busy restrooms.

If you went from capacity for 20 women and 20 men to capacity for 30 people, I think there would be fewer lines. All the time the men's room is empty and the women's has a line, the increased capacity would mitigate that.

[JohnRedWolf87]

Originally Posted by devonin

If you went from capacity for 20 women and 20 men to capacity for 30 people, I think there would be fewer lines. All the time the men's room is empty and the women's has a line, the increased capacity would mitigate that.

There could also be multiple restrooms added. Instead of 1 male and 1 female restroom, have like 2-3 gender-neutral restrooms.

[Cavernio]

Originally Posted by devonin

If you went from capacity for 20 women and 20 men to capacity for 30 people, I think there would be fewer lines. All the time the men's room is empty and the women's has a line, the increased capacity would mitigate that.

Only if the men's room ever has no line. If there's always a queue of even only 1 man you're not gaining anything. You'd be adding 10 more people to the cue minimum, probably more, because urinals are, again, simply faster.

[Cavernio]

Originally Posted by JohnRedWolf87

There could also be multiple restrooms added. Instead of 1 male and 1 female restroom, have like 2-3 gender-neutral restrooms.

They have those, they're called family ones...if you're neither a man nor a woman you're a family! And you can watch parents change diapers.

Do men's public washrooms have changing tables?

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by Cavernio

They have those, they're called family ones...if you're neither a man nor a woman you're a family! And you can watch parents change diapers.

Do men's public washrooms have changing tables?

I've seen it on occasion. It isn't that rare.

Pretty sure if the place has it in the womens restroom they will also have it in the mens.

[reuben_tate]

They have female urinals...never seen one though.

[linky123456]

I've never understood the motivation behind swapping genders.

Like, gender roles to me are generalizations/stereotypes of what a "man" or "woman" should be. I think gender roles are pretty silly, since no matter what personality trait, mannerism, act, or opinion you assign as gender specific, there exists a pretty significant counterexample. An example is makeup. Most people would assume that putting on makeup is a womanly thing to do, but there are people who are biologically male/identify as male who regularly use makeup.

So, it would be hard to categorize things as male or female without it being some type of not-really-accurate stereotype. Trans people take their outlook on themselves and say "hey, I feel like x, so I want to be considered x," using whatever version of gender roles they happen to think is x-like. To me, this seems like saying something like "I was born Polish. I'm really into math, I love fried rice, and I don't enjoy any Polish culture or food. Since Chinese people are good at math and eat fried rice, I want to identify as Chinese." Even though eating fried rice and scoring well in mathematical exams, while statistically true for Chinese people, isn't a Chinese-specific trait

Basically, I don't get it. I don't want to trivialize transgender people though; I know that their gender identity is very important to them. Although I don't understand it, I still respect their decisions and use whatever pronoun they want me to call them (Even if using "they" in the singular flows horribly in conversation), and believe they should have laws ensuring their rights.

[devonin]

Basically, I don't get it. I don't want to trivialize transgender people though; I know that their gender identity is very important to them. Although I don't understand it, I still respect their decisions and use whatever pronoun they want me to call them (Even if using "they" in the singular flows horribly in conversation), and believe they should have laws ensuring their rights.

You are cis-gendered. Do a bit of reading on Gender Dysmorphia. It's not just deciding that they must be female because they like female-stereotyped things. It's a deep-seated mental knowledge that their body does not fit their mental conception of self.