What's with the hostility towards Christians?

[Chachazero1]

Lately, it seems to be getting more and more popular to blatantly attack the Christian faith. Now here on ffr have yet to see this happen so I am NOT talking about any of you.
These attacks usually consist of talking quotes from the bible and using them out of context. Here is an example: http://rwor.org/a/1270/bible-quotes.htm

If not that it, is usually just spouting nonsensical, anti religious speeches that really
, when it comes down to it childish and full of gaping holes.

EX:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRVUlIz_ruE

I guess what I would like to know is why? what's the reason for all this?
all I would like is an explanation, I believe these people are within their full rights to free speach when they say these things, and I don't want to insult anyone.

[NFD]

Coming from the person who has 13 different names for boobs.

Speech*

[~HentaiXXX~]

Uh?

A lot of Christians are total hypocrites?

[Chachazero1]

Originally Posted by NFD

Coming from the person who has 13 different names for boobs.

Speech*

You know not all Christians are uptight prudes, I just saw the picture and thought it was funny.

[Dr Tran]

the priest at my church said that god ended world war 2

[Dr Tran]

now im not going to go ahead and call christians idiots but really?

[~HentaiXXX~]

They also like to make sh*t up.

[Tater Tot]

Originally Posted by Tater Tot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVUfLJVSdjg

^ Don't watch if you're a religious zealot.

It's not necessarily all christians that are hated, it's the zealots that push christianity on others. EVEN OTHER CHRISTIANS.

Allow me to tell you a quick story. I work at a movie theatre, and last week we had the movie Knowing. A lady had come up and asked me my opinion on the movie, and I told her it was good but that I found the ending to be a little wierd.

She came back after the movie saying "So you found the end of the movie wierd?", to which I replied "Yes, the whole alien thing was a little wierd to me." Upon my saying that, she launched into a whole rant on how they weren't aliens, but angels, and that the children were the only ones saved because they were innocent, and that if I didn't believe that I would burn in hell when the rapture came. I explained to her that I understood her view, as I was raised on the bible, but that that was not how I saw it, upon which she went on ranting. So I told her to leave.

People like that are one of the many reasons that Christians have such a bad reputation.

[Bolth mannn]

I myself am a christian and that story you linked to is outrageous.

the bible is not a book of rules that you must live by.

the only 'rules' that we must follow are those of the ten commandments.

all the other parts of the bible are all stories, yes they are true, and thats the way things were back then, the bible is not encouraging us to kill kids who swear.

Hentai: i would like it if you stopped referring to christians as a whole.

there are christians out there who take the bible WAY too seriously, answering every question with some quote from the bible, living 'perfect' lives and think theyre above everyone else.

I personally think that is wrong.

there are different types of christians but the main thing we have in common is that we believe in christ.

the other stuff that happens depends on the actual person, not the religion.

TATOR TOT: you pretty much summed it up perfectly.

[Patashu]

given that Christianity is the biggest religion in the world still and a vast majority of the USA it must be awfully hard to feel persecuted

[~HentaiXXX~]

Originally Posted by Bolth mannn

Hentai: i would like it if you stopped referring to christians as a whole.

ah, yeah, sorry about that, didn't really mean to refer to ALL Christians, just a few/a lot I know about and have seen.

Sorry if I offended you.

[Izzy]

Probably because religion is a joke and the bible is completley out of context within itself.

[dean_machine]

Christianity has been attacked on FFR many times before.

I think a good reason why is because the Christian faith is offensive to anyone who doesn't accept that they are going to judged for their sins and go to hell. If one chooses not to believe in Christ and follow his ways, they're going to Hell because they have sinned (which is turning away from god's commandments which is the same as not choosing to do what we know is right because God's law is in our hearts) and on Judgement Day God judges us acording to our deeds.

But Jesus paid the price of our sins for those that believe in him, and will be made right in God's eyes.

Also the Christian belief is higher than any other in the whole world so it's even easier to attack Christians.

[Psychotik]

I really don't understand how grown intellectual people believe in a mystical man in the sky. Probably either because they fear death and want there to be more after that or it's something their parents told them to believe and they still do or they're just following the norm, since it's still the majority.

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by dean_machine

Christianity has been attacked on FFR many times before.

I think a good reason why is because the Christian faith is offensive to anyone who doesn't accept that they are going to judged for their sins and go to hell. If one chooses not to believe in Christ and follow his ways, they're going to Hell because they have sinned (which is turning away from god's commandments which is the same as not choosing to do what we know is right because God's law is in our hearts) and on Judgement Day God judges us acording to our deeds.

But Jesus paid the price of our sins for those that believe in him, and will be made right in God's eyes.

Also the Christian belief is higher than any other in the whole world so it's even easier to attack Christians.

The problem with telling us that we're going to go to this place you invented to punish evildoers is that every religion basically tells us the same thing. So unless you believe in every religion on the planet, you're going to go to each individual religion's place for people who don't believe in their religion. At the same time, these same religions tell us that we're not allowed to believe in more than one. So, we die either way, right? Then what's the point?

[That One Girl]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

all I would like is an explanation, I believe these people are within their full rights to free speach when they say these things, and I don't want to insult anyone.

It's not just Christianity, but every religion, least that I've seen.

'Nuff said, imo.

[dore]

Hey, most of the atheists who try to argue against the bible have no idea what they're talking about so it's not like it'd be hard for you Christians to win the argument.

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

I guess what I would like to know is why? what's the reason for all this?
all I would like is an explanation, I believe these people are within their full rights to free speach when they say these things, and I don't want to insult anyone.

Here's why I'm anti-religion (not just christianity).

On a day-to-day basis, when confronted with new information, we decide for ourselves the validity of it. If we find it to be true beyond a reasonable doubt, we define such information as knowledge (there is no such thing as true knowledge, as we can't be sure of anything).

All religions have a common thought pattern. When someone accepts that they can believe in a religion, they are placing the status of knowledge upon something which does not have enough validity to be escalated to that status. This is unintelligent by definition. It is detrimental to your ability to operate in daily life.

ESP, for example, is an unintelligent thing to place a lot of merit in. There is a man, whose name I forget, who has publicly offered one million dollars to anyone who can display supernatural abilities. No one has come close. This effectively limits the plausibility of the existence of ESP to near 0, close enough that I can say I "know" it does not exist.

Christianity, by example, is an unintelligent thing to place a lot of merit in. Every claim that its text makes does not have a scrap of real world evidence to claim it. Several of its claims - in fact, pretty much any that can be counterclaimed - can be proven wrong. The lifespan of the world. The existence of Jesus Christ. Noah's ark. Wrong beyond a reasonable doubt.

You're probably itching for the quote button, but on an individual level, I don't care how stupid people are. If someone wants to make dumb decisions for themselves, I don't care.

Where it begins to become a problem is where it affects me on a large-scale basis.

People's beliefs and morals affect their attitudes and decisions. For example, religion tends to be joined with conservative ideals. And since we live in a democracy, I needn't demonstrate that when a large amount of people have sway on my life, and their belief system is flawed and illogical, they have lots of chances to affect my life in a counterproductive way. I do not like that people with corrupt views are changing my life for the worse.

Furthermore, it's a self-replicating virus. Parents teach their children. Crazies try to recruit other people. IQ can be manipulated and I don't like when people are damaging it intentionally. People who could be spending their time on Earth contributing to its development and benefiting it are instead damaging it and holding it back.

Understand?

[Squeek]

To add to what Tokzic said, the main problem a lot of anti-religion folks have is that the people who believe in talking snakes, resurrecting duders who are their own fathers, and people putting 2 of every species of animal on the planet onto a single boat are the same people who run our country.

Does religion affect their judgment? Hell yes it does. Is it positive or negative? My vote is on negative. Nobody would oppose gay marriage if it weren't for religion. The discussion of abortion would be a no-brainer if it weren't for religion. Stem-cell research would never have been stifled had it not been for religion. We get ourselves so hung up on these decisions because they're matters where religion and society clash.

And you know what? The founding fathers of our country knew that this would happen and they fought to prevent it from happening. The religious right eventually won out though, and now religion is stuck inside our politics. I'm so glad Obama understands what happens when religion and government mix and has undone a lot of religion-centered things that our old president put into place. Hopefully science can progress now that the bans on stupid religious matters have been lifted.

[tsugomaru]

Originally Posted by Chachazero1

You know not all Christians are uptight prudes, I just saw the picture and thought it was funny.

This.

I find I have more problems with jackasses than actual Christianity. I have plenty of Christian friends and I respect their choice in religion and they respect my opinions. When people start pressing their beliefs on other people, then we have problems.

~Tsugomaru