11-9-2018, 08:41 PM | #41 | |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
are you really going to delete my post / ban me because my post posing the hypothetical situation where someone's actually racist is the same as posting something actually racist?
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11-9-2018, 08:44 PM | #42 | |
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Does it look like I am?
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You're leaving out Person C, D and E who show up and tell person A they're a stupid idiot and nobody wants them here, and then one of them goes too far and gets banned, person F, G and H deciding this is a great hill to die on about unfair bannings and horrible mods. Last edited by devonin; 11-9-2018 at 08:45 PM.. |
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11-9-2018, 08:46 PM | #43 | |
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sorry I may have assumed such action from your "Um...about that."-post
you know... because I totally haven't gotten banned for less than that before
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11-9-2018, 08:46 PM | #44 |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
Do you know, right this minute, how many forum users are currently serving non-perma bans for things that aren't "being under 13"?
Would you like to guess how many users are banned right now? Five or Eight years ago, the number of people serving non-permanent bans at any giving time was often as high as 40 or 50. Last edited by devonin; 11-9-2018 at 08:47 PM.. |
11-9-2018, 08:48 PM | #45 | |
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yes, there were also more than 15 people online per day
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11-9-2018, 08:49 PM | #46 | |
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Also I did mention I left out a lot of factors, like other people, but it's the general premise, perhaps extend to party A and B if that helps.
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11-9-2018, 08:49 PM | #47 |
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Re: An Open Letter Re: Mods
But when most bans were 1-3 days long, having a steady rate of 30-40 people serving bans is pretty frequent banning. If you scale user-counts from then down to now, there should at least be around 1 or 2 at any given time.
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11-9-2018, 08:50 PM | #48 | |
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And yeah, there's also a lot less activity these days so that isn't too great a comparison... but I digress.
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11-9-2018, 08:53 PM | #49 |
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Why is the decrease of bans an argument to anything here again ?
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11-9-2018, 08:55 PM | #50 | |
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at this point I'd be making claims for which I have no statistics to back them up
so whatever you're doing a joob god
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11-9-2018, 09:04 PM | #51 | |
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I think the current mod team, for the most part, is fine. I might not like their style of moderation, but only one mod in particular has done something I feel is worthy of being made fun of, and then just insulted to hell when the joke is missed, or my point is ignored in favor of pushing their own view point. Especially when it's not exactly the first time it's happened. I think deleting posts is fine when it serves a purpose. Banning people when they break what's written in the rules thread, sure. Using the infraction system correctly? I'm for. I still have permanent points I don't deserve according to the old, and new rule set. It's got it's kinks, and tbh most of them are likely worked out with rotating new people in. You already know what it would be. I'd take the gbin and make it great again. Most of the other mods got the rest of the site in a fairly good place. Like Rapta over MP? He sent me a message last time I played FFR because I was in the MP room. This man knows what's up. OWA and a few others hit this spot pretty nicely as well. |
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11-9-2018, 09:06 PM | #52 | ||
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11-9-2018, 09:12 PM | #53 | |
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but thats also neither here nor there (its also tgb specific isn't it, which has always been a more subjective and disconnected ruleset to an extent)
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that rules thread is BAD edit: posted to defend xel thinking rules is bad cause it is gonna keep tryna hammer that home
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Have the bad rules been explicitely pointed out in some attempted objective manner ? If so, where is that ? Maybe that would help the community to discuss those.
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11-9-2018, 09:28 PM | #56 |
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Some people who decided that anything less than completely comprehensive rules that left no room for any opinion on the part of mods as to whether a rule was broken were completely unacceptable (Read: People who were punished for breaking the rules but decided their actions weren't actually against the rules as written) were the ones who kicked up the original stink, which seems to mostly be continuing due to inertia.
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11-9-2018, 09:38 PM | #57 |
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I guess if I really had to hammer down a point, it would be that I hope there's open-ness to hearing feedback of mod decisions/rules/etc, and this is kind of an attempt at that... admittedly in a way it doesn't feel much like my feedback is being considered? I didn't really word it eloquently which may be part of it, but uh... I hope the point of establishing better co-operation between mods and non-mods is heard and considered.
I still stand by not wanting posts deleted but I guess the other point would need a place before my stance is heard too much.
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11-9-2018, 09:39 PM | #58 | |
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I take issue with people who are easily offended, or bothered by things. Partially because I don't get it. Partially because of that, I don't care who I offend. My view of the world and most of the people in it is largely to blame. I know that. But the reason I'm so in arms about it is that, by letting it into the section of the site, literally meant to have a more loose rule-set, what will make it's way to the main section eventually? Like seriously. My original posts on this, was a complete hyperbolic parody of the rules, mocking them into oblivion and commenting on them, and intentionally using words and phrases to make my point. But instead of doing things such as adding words to the filter, or really even trying to discuss it (yeah surprise that was an option) I just got deleted. I wanted to talk about it, I would argue rather I may have chose the wrong method. But, that's not really productive. It's not the correct course of action, because if I had actually broken the rules, I'm well past the point where I deserve any warnings. I know I broke no actual rules with those posts. The PM I sent to her afterwards in frustration? Which I actually got banned for? 100% broke at least a few site rules. It was nasty. I can still post in the gbin even. But why the hell would I want to post in the place that's supposed to be for people who post like I do, when the rules there are more rigid and strict. It makes no sense. If you're gonna keep Raeko as a mod, fine. But over the gbin? Likely the worst assignment here. And making me a mod? Worst fucking idea ever. Don't ever do that. I'm kidding. |
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publicly (at least in tgb) we're not even allowed to. one of the rules see the issue??
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