TWG Turbo XXIIIIIIII 10 AM/10 PM

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

in the last few min of eod i learned that one of my housemates went awol and no one's heard from her

still awol, idk

obv slank cover but i meant to be around

I thought this was mostly about yesterday though.

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STOP POSTING

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OP did not specify whether :00 counted or not; as such I will be counting the votes made. In the future, :00 is considered bad.

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Insta was reached at post #429 anyway lol

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Votes:

Funnygurl555 -> TWGma #7
XelNya -> ShadoWolfe #9
inDheart -> thesunfan #17
Funnygurl555 -> ShadoWolfe #29
star-crossed -> the sun fan #35
the sun fan -> inDheart #41
inDheart -> Charu #59
ShadoWolfe -> inDheart #142
TWGma -> star-crossed #150
Funnygurl555 -> TWGma #194
ShadoWolfe -> the sun fan #244
star-crossed -> unvote
ShadoWolfe -> Funnygurl555 #295
inDheart -> ShadoWolfe #296
Charu -> TWGma #302
Charu -> SubaruPoptart #344
Charu -> TWGma #366
inDheart -> Funnygurl555 #386
XelNya -> Funnygurl555 #395
inDheart -> ShadoWolfe #405
thesunfan -> ShadoWolfe #415
the sun fan -> TWGma #421
star-crossed -> ShadoWolfe #422
inDheart -> TWGma #427
ShadoWolfe -> TWGma #429

TWGma- 5 (Funnygurl555, Charu, the sun fan, inDheart, ShadoWolfe, )
Funnygurl555- 1 (XelNya, )
ShadoWolfe- 1 (star-crossed, )
star-crossed- 1 (TWGma, )

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TWGma has died. They were...

Green.

It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends in roughly 12 hours, at 10:00 AM Central/Server time.

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In the night...

SubaruPoptart has died. They were...

Blue.

It is now Day 2. Day 2 ends in roughly 12 hours, at 10:00 PM Central/Server time.

[Charu]

So uh, I'm glancing at the rules here once again and um... is the role in question act like some sort of body guard where only the hider dies? Or does the hider just die alongside another player if they hid behind a player that was going to die?

Asking because... why on earth would there be a roleblocker in this setup if that otherwise wouldn't be the case?

[Charu]

Okay, looking back at poptart's reads.

I'mm-a gonna call it a hunch and say he hid behind me, because he didn't put anyone else at "strong town" like me. If that's the case, I'm gonna also assume wolves didn't like Poptart (for... some reason?) and decided to get him out of here.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

Okay, looking back at poptart's reads.

I'mm-a gonna call it a hunch and say he hid behind me, because he didn't put anyone else at "strong town" like me. If that's the case, I'm gonna also assume wolves didn't like Poptart (for... some reason?) and decided to get him out of here.

I think, assuming you're town and that he hid behind you and he was targeted, then he would still be alive

Is my understanding of it.


Also I second the previous question about whether hider acts like a bodyguard resulting in only one death or two

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

Okay, looking back at poptart's reads.

I'mm-a gonna call it a hunch and say he hid behind me, because he didn't put anyone else at "strong town" like me. If that's the case, I'm gonna also assume wolves didn't like Poptart (for... some reason?) and decided to get him out of here.

So what even started the thing, is he essentially admits it looks like Subaru hid behind him, under the assumption that because there is a roleblocker the hider role must not die if hiding behind dead town

Reasons I imagine the roleblocker is important is being able to better counter a claimed hider, and also it could make a town think you are confirmed if they hid behind you and do not die. It introduces more confusion and weakens the hider role. Is that really that counterintuitive? This is stuff I am literally spitballing

[Charu]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

So what even started the thing, is he essentially admits it looks like Subaru hid behind him, under the assumption that because there is a roleblocker the hider role must not die if hiding behind dead town

Reasons I imagine the roleblocker is important is being able to better counter a claimed hider, and also it could make a town think you are confirmed if they hid behind you and do not die. It introduces more confusion and weakens the hider role. Is that really that counterintuitive? This is stuff I am literally spitballing

See, I thought, once I saw Poptart flip, that the wolves went for me, but the "hider" died instead

See OP this specific line that confused me and why I had a crisis

Originally Posted by flashflash account

The hider MUST hide each night, and will die if they hide behind either the person that the mafia is trying to kill, or either mafia member. The Hider is not informed if/when they are roleblocked.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

The hider MUST hide each night, and will die if they hide behind either the person that the mafia is trying to kill, or either mafia member.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

The hider MUST hide each night, and will die if they [sie=5]hide behind either the person that the mafia is trying to kill[/size]

No where does it state the hider's role proper where the hider and the target dies as normal.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

See, I thought, once I saw Poptart flip, that the wolves went for me, but the "hider" died instead

See OP this specific line that confused me and why I had a crisis





No where does it state the hider's role proper where the hider and the target dies as normal.

I do have to admit the TRYING TO part makes it super confusing

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

No where does it state the hider's role proper where the hider and the target dies as normal.

You're absolutely right, and I had the same dilemma at start of day until sunfan corrected us both. I don't think being confused over hider mechanics is necessarily towny though.

Reason being, wolves are pretty much mandated to roleblock every kill in this game. There's no point of doing anything else unless they want to gamble on maybe losing a NK for the chance of a double kill.

There's like, a tiny possibility that a wolf would want to roleblock the hider he knows is going to hide behind that same wolf in order to get what would effectively be an investigative clear for the wolf, but that possibility requires the roleblocker to know for certain both who the hider is, and that the hider's target is one of the wolves for

but in like 99.9% of cases, wolves roleblock every kill

so confusion over hider mechanics isn't really AI, and could easily be faked given the real mechanical knowledge that you just roleblock+killed the hider

[star-crossed]

Something kind of funny is that all 3 of you (Shado, Charu, Sun fan) have in some way tried to defend yourselves by saying that you would care more if you were a wolf

[Charu]

Also, stinks about T-Force, but that's how the cookie crumbles I guess. He was surprisingly okay with getting lynched. Probably because this gonna be a fast game, hoowee~

Though I guess that means I was right on my hunch. I still don't think star is wolfing here because why on earth would a wolf generate conflict with a sleeping town? Makes not a whole lot of sense unless star really wanted to put more spice in her game. Power wolfing and all that jazz, but I ain't crossing that road at all unless absolutely necessary.

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Shadowolfe seems to be a cool vote for today. I let them off because it's their first game in who knows how long, but who knows. Maybe that's a bite, eh!?

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Charu

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Shadowolfe seems to be a cool vote for today. I let them off because it's their first game in who knows how long, but who knows. Maybe that's a bite, eh!?

Heh
Or you could, you know, re-evaluate instead of going for yesterday's near mislynch. I still don't know how my wagon even gained traction but I'ma look into that in a bit

[ShadoWolfe]

Wowee

So either he hid behind a maf or hid behind the night kill, right? Cause otherwise the mandatory hiding protects Subie?

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Wowee

So either he hid behind a maf or hid behind the night kill, right? Cause otherwise the mandatory hiding protects Subie?

both he and the nightkill would be dead if he hid behind the nightkill

[Charu]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

both he and the nightkill would be dead if he hid behind the nightkill

Bruh, if that's the case, why in the WORLD is there a roleblocker in that role list?