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[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

All in honesty, this entire time, Ben appears as town for me. Heck, his colored reads look town, but I guess you could reason that was due to Ben assuming he was about to be moved over to this game.

Then you got this phase where Ben is like "Y'know what? I'm done, just get me off and then flip me in the other dame."

Reverse psychology, as star-crossed put it for gold stinger and myself? Also probably, but I've seen just... "Ben" in this game, if that makes sense? Nothing scummy about him, just him responding how I would think he would respond to people.

Ben usually tends to get negative attention for his "tone" I think, early in games. What is suspect to me, is that he has not tried to follow up on which wolves may be pushing him, as I tried to explain earlier. So, to me, it comes off as rhetoric that he may be afraid of losing the argument if he were to follow to through, rather than a genuine way to investigate. Also, that people keep hanging afk folks instead of him.

A reason that I think asking to be voted or flipped can be a reverse psychology play is that people thought gold stinger was a town after he did it.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I want a DBP flip for the same reason you guys want a ben flip.

You guys have a SK saying he's a VT and telling you to lynch ben. No one seems to care about that.

I feel we have evidence against the existence of antagonistic neutral killing role, which I have outlined in this thread. Until somebody refutes that, I am going to try to hang wolves only, and suggest everybody else do the same.

[Charu]

But I digress, because I have no idea how this game is mechanically supposed to be played since this thread exists.

Safest option, if this were an actual TWG, would be to lynch Ben this phase as backpack has stated and discuss what to do next. Working with no-flips is hard, yes, but you'll just have to tough it out and assume what the best course of action is.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

@DBP




Are you guys killing Storn today? or where are you guys at in terms of who's gonna get the axe?

I have 0 intention of moving my vote from Ben today, and I think Kappa and I are on that same wavelength..

We can always kill T-Force if he doesn't die in the night the next phase tbh

ALSO DBP: Are you at liberty to inform us who you shot N1/N2? Or were you a one shot?

@Shadow

no consensus yet, but my suggestion is lynch storn to get his flip.

I mentioned this in-thread, but I shot Gold Stinger, and then Charu. (The latter I realize was a misplay, even if I suspect Charu. If given another chance I would nail Ben. no questions asked)

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by choof

ben

I am struggling to give a shit about anything right now given what I learned today (not related to the game at all, just some rly frustrating news)
but what I do care about is ben dying today

choof is a goddamn chad

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

Heres the thing, if we get ben out, we have a way more linear path then keeping him in. If he is town so be it, he can help from mirror thread. And we can use his town flip for a more unified front instead of half the people saying yeah ben looks bad but how about x because they decided to do something scummy, and then the other half being like I want to kill ben and thats that. ben hasnt givin us much regardless of if hes town or no, he just talked about mechanics of the game and a reads list that literly makes no sense.

kappa is town. Remember that Kappa almost got lynched D0 to protect Benguin. When that didn't work out, the Kappa wagon dissolved and the Haku wagon begun.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

But I digress, because I have no idea how this game is mechanically supposed to be played since this thread exists.

Safest option, if this were an actual TWG, would be to lynch Ben this phase as backpack has stated and discuss what to do next. Working with no-flips is hard, yes, but you'll just have to tough it out and assume what the best course of action is.

This is all the more reason for us to lynch storn today.

If storn flips red(!!!) then that makes Ben look a hell of a lot better, because top 2 wagons being W/W is unlikely

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by 123kappa3

you look wolfy defending ben right now.

I think Haku's just being stupid here

I don't think it's fully hit Haku that he almost DIED because of Ben

[the sun fan]

alright, this is the last mod announcement where I hold your hand that I'm going to make, you guys are on your own after this

Do you guys genuinely believe that I'd make a game where it would be fine for an alignment to be complacent with dying? Your win condition is still at stake, and there is still much game to be played here.

[DaBackpack]

I mean atm when you "die" here, all we see happens is you get color flipped

Gold Stinger is still here and able to post

Like of course wolves don't want to "die" here because it reveals their alignment. If we know Player X is a wolf, that helps everybody

is there some hidden death mechanic we still don't know about yet???

[Charu]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

alright, this is the last mod announcement where I hold your hand that I'm going to make, you guys are on your own after this

Do you guys genuinely believe that I'd make a game where it would be fine for an alignment to be complacent with dying? Your win condition is still at stake, and there is still much game to be played here.

I'm not quite sure what the host means with that message...

But I assume it means we shouldn't be treating these flips we're giving ourselves as some kind of info move.

And if so, then I'm at a loss at how we're suppose to play here in this mirror game with all the information we received in terms of PR's not being able to use their kit in this game.

Also, this reads like there is an anti-town in here.

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm not quite sure what the host means with that message...

But I assume it means we shouldn't be treating these flips we're giving ourselves as some kind of info move.

And if so, then I'm at a loss at how we're suppose to play here in this mirror game with all the information we received in terms of PR's not being able to use their kit in this game.

Also, this reads like there is an anti-town in here.

Yes, um, the host commentary is leading me to more confusion and also probably angle shooting. Not really sure what to say.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

alright, this is the last mod announcement where I hold your hand that I'm going to make, you guys are on your own after this

Do you guys genuinely believe that I'd make a game where it would be fine for an alignment to be complacent with dying? Your win condition is still at stake, and there is still much game to be played here.

Particularly this sentence in bold.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Charu

Particularly this sentence in bold.

There is no contradiction.

I am not "ok" with dying because I will flip green and that is a complete waste of a phase.

storn is not "ok" with dying because of that same reason, OR because he knows that flipping red will give crucial information to town.

[roundbox]

man my evaluations of the setup feel validated
it really isn't as easy as people want it to be

[roundbox]

(aka what I said yesterday, don't try to metagame the setup, just find wolves)

[the sun fan]

spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.

[the sun fan]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.

both players have flipped Green

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

both players have flipped Green

Yikes. We are already out of substitutes? I was hoping we would at least get Psycho.

Originally Posted by Charu

So here's another crackpot theory.

blind said their role disappeared.

Backpack is saying their role disappered

What if it's RNG that town turns to wolf to make this game possible to exist in the first place?

...

But oh... wolves would have to kill, huh? Never mind me...

More people can see this for themselves when OOTC turns back on but sun fan told us in our "dead" OOTC chat that nobody's alignment changed between the games. If that helps.

Can somebody in the other game get Haku to explain why Haku wants a DBP flip?

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.