Angry Dad Strikes Back At Son

[sarahxjane]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG0rn4OCBos



Do you think this is the perfect punishment for young offenders or not?
Is it too harsh or not harsh enough?


Personally, I believe that humiliation may be the best punishment for teenagers.
I'd sure as hell be wishing the ground swallowed me up if I had to wear a sign like that.


I think he should clean the graffiti up as well.


Perhaps a place that kids can graffiti could be built or something.


They don't need to vandalize buildings.

[mnnicol]

Good work dad!

[rzr]

There are places for graffiti art. There are entire places devoted to it. And classes.

[Ground_Breaker]

Well I think it's certainly effective; I'd be very surprised if that kid vandalized something ever again. As for me, I doubt I would do the sandwich-board thing, but I would make him clean up his "artwork."

Although I think there are places in some cities where graffiti is legal, I think that it's a bad idea. Places like that I'm sure are crime hot-spots, especially if they're in areas where gangs are prevalent. Graffiti is not a constructive use of your time, and building a place where it's allowed is validating the behavior, which is what we need to not be doing if we're trying to cut back on vandalism.

Also, @ anyone who is planning on using the "omg graffiti is artwork too!" argument, there are plenty of ways to express yourself through your artwork that do not involve spray paint and outdoor edifices.

[rzr]

So, you're saying Karate is bad too? Because, even though fighting is discouraged and illegal, there are still existant facilities in which to practice the art.

[TC_Halogen]

Take account into the general objective of those kind of arts, they are more for self-defensive purposes. Hell, if someone wants to fight, they really would deem it unnecessary to train themselves that way.

[[TeRa]]

Oh, so I can go break the law as long as I wear a sign saying what I did?
Good deal, brb doing a whole bunch of things that are against the law.

In all honesty, a punishment like that would only effect certain people, as you said Sarah, you would hate it, personally, I wouldn't mind it at all, even if I didn't do the crime I'd go outside right now and walk around with a dumb sign on me lmao.

[Orange Dude]

Seriously, if I can run around town shirtless and in short running shorts for an hour then I think I could get by carrying a sign around for however long. I'd probably get less looks anyway. =/

[Ground_Breaker]

Originally Posted by rzr

So, you're saying Karate is bad too? Because, even though fighting is discouraged and illegal, there are still existant facilities in which to practice the art.

Self-defense blah blah blah what Halogen said.

My point was that graffiti is not a constructive use of your time, while karate definitely is, comparatively speaking.

[Zybanthia]

I doubt it will work. The kid was smiling during the video; he was probably humored with the ordeal. If humored, he won't mind parading around with a sign again.

Some people actually don't care what other people think because they have such little on their minds that it doesn't matter to them. It's possible he'll go do it again the next day.

[Tokzic]

Humiliation is a ridiculous punishment. Embarrassment is a borderline worthless instinctual response that can be safely disregarded 99% of the time.

There's nothing that I would find punishing in having a sign on me, so as a kid, I'd be no less likely to continue defacing the school. If anything, I'd just point at my camera-wielding dad and make a "he's crazy" gesture at a few people.

ps hey sarahxjane your signature is retarded

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[OrganisM]

Humiliation can cause serious psychological damage, so using it as a weapon is not what I'd call good parenting. It's what happens when a man has grown so little that he can't handle the trials of a little boy. The child should not pay for the failure of the parent.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

I applaud that father.

[MrRubix]

Honestly, that video didn't give me the impression that he was really all that humiliated, if at all.

Regardless, I think humiliation is a horrible punishment. Some forms of it can damage you very deeply and permanently.

Depending on its execution, humiliation can basically rob you of your privacy and dignity. It can place you in a position of extreme submission such that people may see you as something subhuman and somehow unworthy of basic human respect and treatment. Reputation and credibility may be blown apart. Not to mention, there's also the possibility of psychological trauma.

In general, it strips you of your will to take control over certain things in your life, and can erode your self-esteem. There are some very severe consequences to humiliation that a lot of people don't really consider. I can think of countless examples (both personal events as well as events that have involved others) where serious damage has resulted from being humiliated.

So, no, I don't think it's really a good idea.

[kmay]

haha he looked so depressed some people are idiots and public humiliation is a great way to punish them

[PlaceboFX]

I'm the kind of person that smiles at all the WRONG times e.g. funerals. It's a nervous habit. So this guy would have been beating the **** out of me by the end of that video.


Anyway, I think humiliation is a great way to teach someone a lesson. It's how young children learn social cues in society. It must work for older people too.

[Tr44nc33]

The street was almost empty, the dad fails.

[Quigly]

He just looked really bored to me. =/

Also Ground Breaker, if done in a place that supports it and with the proper protection, graffiti is definitely art. And for your 'crime hot-spot' comment I have seen plenty of museums that have walls where people can graffiti and there was no illegal activity going on there. People graffiti, leave, and another person or group comes and paints over it. It's a harmless cycle.

[LilyPichu]

Just take away his xbox or something rofl. Do something effective rather than assume humiliation will cure everything. IMO the son looked like it was just a bothersome task instead of reaping said shame. ?_?

[Ground_Breaker]

Originally Posted by Quigly

Also Ground Breaker, if done in a place that supports it and with the proper protection, graffiti is definitely art. And for your 'crime hot-spot' comment I have seen plenty of museums that have walls where people can graffiti and there was no illegal activity going on there. People graffiti, leave, and another person or group comes and paints over it. It's a harmless cycle.

No, I'm aware that there are already places where it's done, I'm just saying that building more places where it's acceptable is a bad idea.