religion/science

[stargroup]

Originally Posted by bLasTamos

Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.

Thank you.

This is why the logic goes around in circles and no one gets anywhere.

This is also why debating the existence of God is stupid. Instead, you guys should be respecting both science and religion, and focusing on how they affect our daily lives.

Science is based off evidence, and it is what we use in order to improve our understanding of the universe, allowing us to harness technology, etc. Religion is based of faith, and helps us understand other people better, and provide a framework of morals for society. Needless to say, these are completely separate entities that should not ever be combined. One strengthens a community socially, the other intellectually.

Although certain people who believe in God may be instilling some beliefs that could be refuted by science in other people, the important thing is that most of these people are also instilling a way of life on the people that allows them to bring each other closer together. How often, in the midst of all the chaos today, do you see people gather together the way they do at church, socializing, having fun, and bettering the community in a peaceful manner?

I'm absolutely tired of people going back and forth with all this religion/science nonsense. I'm absolutely tired of it. People who continuously debate over such a dumb issue really annoy me. For once, people, grow up and learn to embrace life.

[Artic_counter]

Originally Posted by bLasTamos

Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.

Edit: also the first vid on the OP is hillarious. Wasted 5 minutes of my life reading fallacies.

Saying that something exist just because it never have been proven wrong is worth 0 as an argument. If I remember correctly, that's called a sophism

[stargroup]

Originally Posted by Artic_counter

Saying that something exist just because it never have been prooven wrong is worth 0 as an argument. If I remember correctly, that's called a sophism

can someone please for the love of god explain to me why people are so stupid

[A2P]

prooven

[Artic_counter]

Originally Posted by A2P

prooven

English not being my native language, I guess you can consider letting these kind of mistakes pass.

[Grandiagod]

Originally Posted by Artic_counter

English ain't being my native language, I guess you can consider letting these kind of mistakes pass.

Is this intentional sarcasm?

[ItIsAMystery]

Originally Posted by stargroup

Thank you.

This is why the logic goes around in circles and no one gets anywhere.

This is also why debating the existence of God is stupid. Instead, you guys should be respecting both science and religion, and focusing on how they affect our daily lives.

Science is based off evidence, and it is what we use in order to improve our understanding of the universe, allowing us to harness technology, etc. Religion is based of faith, and helps us understand other people better, and provide a framework of morals for society. Needless to say, these are completely separate entities that should not ever be combined. One strengthens a community socially, the other intellectually.

Although certain people who believe in God may be instilling some beliefs that could be refuted by science in other people, the important thing is that most of these people are also instilling a way of life on the people that allows them to bring each other closer together. How often, in the midst of all the chaos today, do you see people gather together the way they do at church, socializing, having fun, and bettering the community in a peaceful manner?

I'm absolutely tired of people going back and forth with all this religion/science nonsense. I'm absolutely tired of it. People who continuously debate over such a dumb issue really annoy me. For once, people, grow up and learn to embrace life.

Typical argument that is also bull****. Who cares if religion is a moderating influence or helps some people out in their lives? Doesn't make it true. Need I not mention all the negative things it has caused, either.

[A2P]

yeah youre a troll

[A2P]

like not even a funny troll
just a troll thats mad at the world and who no one likes anyway

[ItIsAMystery]

Originally Posted by bLasTamos

Even science can't prove there is no god, since science can't explain everything.
Okay some parts of the bible have already been proven to be false, mainly genesis and some more of the Old Testament, but you can't really explain the true origin of the universe. It's just not possible. Even if most of the existing theories were true, you wouldn't know what originated it or even if there was something else before.
Anyway, statements like "anyone who believes in god must be a complete ignorant" actually prove the ignorance of the poster, because god is whatever you want it to be. That's why they call it religions based on faith. You can have a complete understanding of science and still believe in god. Some god that makes sense. Science itself doesn't prove there is no god.

Edit: also the first vid on the OP is hillarious. Wasted 5 minutes of my life reading fallacies.

It is impossible to disprove a God. But like I said, most people operate on the coin example I provided earlier.

Science cannot ever hope to explain everything, but there's a point where you'd have to be stupid to ignore the opposing evidence. Everyone I know who actually understands the science does not believe in God. Why? Because science kicks God in the nuts, hard, repeatedly. Why spit in the face of Occam's Razor and introduce the variable of God into everything, which would require a MAMMOTH explanation in conjunction with all that we know?

tldr theists are retarded pce

[Artic_counter]

Originally Posted by Grandiagod

Is this intentional sarcasm?

I wasn't being sarcastic. I do not master the language enough to be able to easily understand it when written and to be using it.

[Izzy]

Originally Posted by A2P

yeah youre a troll

And you're to much of a pussy to give your opinion in fear of being opposed.

[stargroup]

Originally Posted by ItIsAMystery

Typical argument that is also bull****. Who cares if religion is a moderating influence or helps some people out in their lives? Doesn't make it true. Need I not mention all the negative things it has caused, either.

rofl yes your argument is sooo much more life-fulfilling and mature. not to mention adding the tons of fallacies to your statement it's just like a bunch of coconuts on a sundae isn't it

Originally Posted by ItIsAMystery

It is impossible to disprove a God. But like I said, most people operate on the coin example I provided earlier.

Science cannot ever hope to explain everything, but there's a point where you'd have to be stupid to ignore the opposing evidence. Everyone I know who actually understands the science does not believe in God. Why? Because science kicks God in the nuts, hard, repeatedly. Why spit in the face of Occam's Razor and introduce the variable of God into everything, which would require a MAMMOTH explanation in conjunction with all that we know?

tldr theists are retarded pce

not only did you contradict yourself because logic happens to work that way when you're dealing with god but you also show the maturity and intelligence of a 9 year old. I know a bunch of kids who are 10 years old that have better thought-out ideals than you

[Izzy]

Stargroup, you can't argue a statement by saying "no, you're wrong".

[A2P]

Originally Posted by Izzy

And you're to much of a pussy to give your opinion in fear of being opposed.

I stated my opinion bro

[ItIsAMystery]

stargroup are you retarded

1. THE CONCEPT SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LIFE FULFILLMENT. Life fulfillment is a purely human-relating utilitarian concept. Has nothing to do with universal truth. Good luck pointing out "fallacies" Mr. Hollow Argument Who Isn't Addressing the Relevant Questions.

2. Do you even understand what logic is. Also note the lack of question mark here.


Way to refute an argument without actually giving an argument.

[stargroup]

I've already said everything in a previous post, there's really nothing to dispute

the fact that this guy is actually arguing against it and still trying to debate that god doesn't exist is simply hilarious and by this point I don't really care whether I'm making sense or not because you can't explain these kinds of things to people who will never get it

[ItIsAMystery]

Originally Posted by stargroup

I have no idea what I am talking about and will response with a vague statement that again puts forth no actual argument against anything being said

die in hell, theist waste.

[stargroup]

also I hope you realize that we are mortal beings with emotional, mental, and psychological traits that cannot be explicitly defined by logic

this is the sole reason why your argument lack maturity and is therefore WRONG

edit: do you even realize that I'm agnostic/athiest lmfao

oy what a dumbass

[ItIsAMystery]

Originally Posted by stargroup

also I hope you realize that we are mortal beings with emotional, mental, and psychological traits that cannot be explicitly defined by logic

this is the sole reason why your argument lack maturity and is therefore WRONG

edit: do you even realize that I'm agnostic/athiest lmfao

oy what a dumbass

then for an atheist you're ****ing retarded

We are mortal beings, yes, we have emotions, yes, cannot be defined by logic, incorrect.

Again you're not bringing up anything directly countering my points. Your future at Yale looks bright, young one -- you're gonna have to try harder than that