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Old 09-8-2009, 02:55 PM   #21
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The thing with this is, the best in a division wouldn't be ridiculously better than the other players in the same division.

If you get moved up, there was a reason, and your skill level would be good enough to compete in that division.

You need to remember there are ten divisions, and going up one division wouldn't be as nearly as major as going one up in the current style.
Here comes some points of a tournament. Its to try to be the best.
I know if I was in a tournament run like this, I wouldnt be very motivated, because I knew that if I got an amazing score, I would be moved up to a different division where my score would have been sub-par, therefore ruining any excitement, and also, I doubt someone would be good enough to shift more than 2 division in a 1-10 scale anyway. Its not like some original D2 is going to magically bounce to D6 or 7 anyway, so this is pretty inefficient in my opinion.
There are some people who may like this, but you are also going to get more "this is bs" because 2nd place in D1-9 is going to say 1st should have been in the next division up

bolded because I like this statement.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:01 PM   #22
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Default Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Also, what you're saying is "Instead of trying to actually rank people based on their stats and scores in advance of the tourney starting, I'm going to try to sort them all, as I go, on the fly" Have fun doing that with 1000-1200 participants.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:03 PM   #23
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Here comes some points of a tournament. Its to try to be the best.
I know if I was in a tournament run like this, I wouldnt be very motivated, because I knew that if I got an amazing score, I would be moved up to a different division where my score would have been sub-par, therefore ruining any excitement, and also, I doubt someone would be good enough to shift more than 2 division in a 1-10 scale anyway. Its not like some original D2 is going to magically bounce to D6 or 7 anyway, so this is pretty inefficient in my opinion.
There are some people who may like this, but you are also going to get more "this is bs" because 2nd place in D1-9 is going to say 1st should have been in the next division up

bolded because I like this statement.
Well, you'd need to do good enough to stay above elimination, and it would be tight.

The top two players would be of similar skill level, so it wouldn't be "BS" if the winner got a few less goods.
If they were fit for the next division up they would be there.

And moving many divisions is very possible, I was borderline D2/D3 IMO at the beginning of this tournament, and I'm now borderline D4.
Which would be 3-4 divisions up in this tournament.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:06 PM   #24
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Also, what you're saying is "Instead of trying to actually rank people based on their stats and scores in advance of the tourney starting, I'm going to try to sort them all, as I go, on the fly" Have fun doing that with 1000-1200 participants.
Obviously a 1k+ participant tournament cannot be ran smoothly by two people, it would require a team of people to do this.

It would definitely be hard, but not impossible. There are plenty of active players to pull it off.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:18 PM   #25
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Default Re: How the tournament should have gone.

And then all the people disagreing over who needs to be moved or not, having personal biases about the players interfere with their objectivity etc etc.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:22 PM   #26
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And then all the people disagreing over who needs to be moved or not, having personal biases about the players interfere with their objectivity etc etc.
I'm not nitpicking here, if a player is obviously better than the rest then he/she will be moved.
You wouldn't get moved for being a tad better than the rest.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:26 PM   #27
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Default Re: How the tournament should have gone.

Even a phrase like "obviously better" is severely open to interpretation.
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Old 09-8-2009, 03:31 PM   #28
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Would take too much work.
No one is dedicated that much to FFR.
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Old 09-8-2009, 04:37 PM   #29
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You can say you are but once you start doing it you'll have your doubts.
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Old 09-8-2009, 04:42 PM   #30
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There is no true way to eliminate cheaters and sandbaggers. Its gonna happen no matter what you do. The only thing that can be done is DQing people if it is believed they are cheating. But then if they're not cheating it sucks for them. It just amazes me that people want to cheat. A tourney for me is a way to show myself how well I'm doing and earning my place not the prizes.
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Even a phrase like "obviously better" is severely open to interpretation.
And would hopefully be generally interpreted in the right direction.

@OHN: Some senior members would do.
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And would hopefully be generally interpreted in the right direction.

@OHN: Some senior members would do.
Sprite- is tired as fuC from the 5th Official Tourney.

Add 5 more divisions.

No one is gonna do it.
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