TWG CXVII (reroll): General Hospital

[Xiz]

If I out what I know, then a mafia could fake a doctor and claim the info that would make this irrelevant. I need this last person to claim to me. I'll answer as soon as I get that claim.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Charles Claythorne

Manti, I think Xiz is saying that sunfan is making up having claims to create dissent when only two Doctors ever claimed in the first place (i.e. Xiz and me). At one point in my log with sunfan, he even mentioned that Fiction was power playing; so it's fully possible that he didn't have any claims.

I understand that's what Xiz is getting at. What I'm saying is that doesn't make an sense from what I know.

Fiction was adamant about having 4 claims. Xiz Charles were public and (Himself?) Player X were private.

I pressed him on that a few times, and he was very clear he had 4 blue claims. I think this means a wolf felt scared fiction's powerplay was going to unite the blues, so they claimed too tossing a monke wrench in his plans.

That being said between those 4 players one of them is a wolf (xiz/you/player x)

I'm forced to trust Fic wasn't lying to me.

That being said, if there's a wolf sticking their neck out to mess up fic's plans, what is sunfan as a wolf doing making up additional claims? It really doesn't make sense from a wolf team perspective. Something is already wrong there, why risk another wolf in the fire?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Rescind Xiz, Rescind.

[Xiz]

Typing on a phone is hard shit manti.

I'm not gonna give any more info until I get that claim. The game is in your hands (whoever the last doctor out there might be)

[blindreper1179]

Sorry guys, was at a convention this weekend. Was constant drinking so, couldn't really play. =/ I read over the thread, and tension is high with xiz, Sun, and Charles. Not saying with each other, but over all. I don't know if it's try hard tactic their doing, Or if it's because no one else is talking.
Blind, I haven't been active, sorry.
Manti, he talks well. I don't know where to go with him because he's saying the fake claim is a poison right now, but in another game he faked claimed to win. I'm confused about that as much as you guys.
Gradiant, he's the same player from the last two games, which sucks because he was human, than wolf, so what is he now?
Blank is inactive like I was.
Funny, is being funny(as her personality)
Charles, he's trying real hard too not be lynched, maybe too hard? I like my vote right now.
Sun, he's talking but my read is fuzzy. Not sure what to think. Sorry, lunch is over I'll get back after work.

[MeaCulpa]

Originally Posted by Xiz

13. Mea - I'd kill him for the flip to make connections, however I rather kill off BDN or Sunfan before Mea. Honestly I would rather kill him day 3 or 4.

Didn't realize I have connections, but okay.

Originally Posted by Xiz

10. Mashi - I don't give a shit if he is mafia or blue, he is not the lynch today.

This is exactly what I was thinking earlier last night, as I told a couple of people (Gradiant and Funny, I think?). Charles is a very attractive day 2 or 3 lynch, less so today. I was starting to change my mind to consider lynching him today because I just didn't have anyone else who looked wolfy enough to justify voting for instead.

This new stuff about the alleged claims and xiz not being blue paints sunfan a little more red to me (or he's being framed, idk). Realistically, I don't see myself voting for anyone but sunfan or charles today unless Xiz finds things with his :detectivemanias:

[DarkManticoreX2]

Entire phase is being stalled by this Xiz doctor thing.

What happens if you don't get the dr claim you're looking for xiz?

[Xiz]

I got the claim. I believe it. However, it changed what I thought. On a film shoot, I'll post soon

[Gradiant]

Until we get that post, and whenever sunfan gets in here...
Hey sunfan, why is xiz so adamant that you are red?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Looking at the list I really like Mea/Gradiant in the humanity department.
Mea: has been doing a lot of good pro town digging, if he's a wolf he definatley deserves to be living till late game. Sunfan disagrees with me and says im underestimating him.

Gradiant: Very stong emotions going into this charles lynch. I can't imagine a scenario where red or blue charles gets pushed this hard by a red gradiant. If charles is red thats a really hard teammae push. if charles is blue a red gradiant would know that and abstain from being the focal point behind a charles lynch.

I'm really hoping the rest of the game develops rather significantly following this reveal and sheads some light on this charles/xiz/sunfan thing.

[Xiz]

waiting for one person to respond to me, just to confirm one final thing.

[Xiz]

As said before, I am not blue. I wanted to take a bullet day 1 since I was off doing these film shoots but I guess that's not going to happen now. I didn't trust fiction day 1 (hence my vote on him) until we talked in slack. Anyway, down to business…

Here is how the night actions went down:

- Fiction protected person A
- Person A protected fiction
- Person B protected blankey
- Charles protected Manti

However… fiction died. This puts person A into the spotlight. There is a *chance* that this person was roll blocked, but I am willing to risk the game on the fact that this did not happen. There is also the chance that Fiction got red doctor’d, which is more likely.

Here is where this gets interesting. Fiction, myself, and Person A were in a super-secret blue group together. Fiction and Person A thought I thought I was blue since I claimed. However, yesterday I claimed that I was not blue, and actually green. This was BEFORE it became public. (I can share logs on any of this if you care).

fiction [11:02 AM]
IT'S YOU AND ME BABY
fiction [11:02 AM]
TEAM BLUE
fiction [11:02 AM]
yeee
fiction [11:02 AM]
guard me tonight thanks
fiction [11:02 AM]
I'll gaurd you too
(Person A) [11:02 AM]
kk

So here is where I am at, I thought if Person B came out differently, I would have caught two wolves based on contradictions of how night actions went out through pm’s with other people, hence why I had to keep it quiet.

I am taking a risk and willing to believe Person B is actually a real blue, for good reasons (which I can’t out until this person is public)

I believe it is a tossup between Charles, and Person A.

I would lynch person A because:
- I did not die, and fiction died
- The protection on fiction did not go through (due to being a wolf / roll blocked / red doc’d) which honestly with this person, I don’t see mafia targeting d1


I would lynch charles because:
- It would be to follow the rest of the crowd.

In regards to sunfan, he has been saying a lot of bullshit but the more important stuff checks out, such as a blue coming to him. (which is my strongest blue right meow) so I no longer want to kill him.


But I rather not try to lynch between two possible blues.


tl;dr - Its a 50/50 between two blues, and one of them is 100% mafia. I really hope someone else tries to chime in and do something because I’m trying and need help from other townies.


I’m changing my vote to mea right meow until further notice. I want people to react to what I did, please, instead of afk'n like bitches. Thx.

[Xiz]

But yeah people like blind and YMia are higher on my list also to kill

[DarkManticoreX2]

Fiction was most probably double doctored. It makes sense he would ask for one.

Him being double doctored though means we blocked a wolf kill.

[Xiz]

So in other words I got nowhere. Anyway another film shoot here in the desert I'll brb

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Fiction was most probably double doctored. It makes sense he would ask for one.

Him being double doctored though means we blocked a wolf kill.

Thats impossible, according to what the doctors told me above.

[DarkManticoreX2]

are sunfan's two private claimers the same as your 2 private claimers xiz?

[yo man im awesome]

Well for one, Mea is clearly not your "Person A" if you're going to label them as "Person A" for an entire post and then vote Mea and ask us to react. Second, I think you're wrong if you are legitimately trying to push a Mea lynch beyond the reaction test.

Also, I'm pretty sure Fiction was double doc'd. I don't see a perfect roleblocking happening Night 1, where the Red blocker blocks the specific doctor that guards Fiction, and then took the risk of trying to night-kill a high-priority target. The roleblock chances don't sit well with me, at all.

[Xiz]

Unless I am missing something? All doctors targeted someone else

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

are sunfan's two private claimers the same as your 2 private claimers xiz?

They were not private, he lied about that. He fell back to me and Charles being the secret claims even though they were open. I think he lied about the two claims because when he said it at first they didn't exist