01-5-2011, 11:26 AM | #17441 |
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Also, any judge exam would essentially cement a kind of aristocracy where there is one "judge style" that's passed down from judge to judge. This is precisely what happened with pad simfile tournaments in 2003 and 2004. Almost no song could win which wasn't some type of 8-footer happy house garbage, and this pretty much stayed the same until ITG came out.
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01-5-2011, 11:45 AM | #17442 | |
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EDIT: also, for anyone using the reason that they have files on DF, I want to personally let you know that, while I'm lenient there: I'm not over here. My way of helping out over there is being lighter on judging when a person is trying to build a foundation toward stepping, rather than giving them harsh ratings. Over here, I'm assuming that a person has all of the fundamentals down, and my definitions of the fundamentals happens to stretch slightly past layering and consistency. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 01-5-2011 at 11:50 AM.. |
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01-5-2011, 11:51 AM | #17443 | |
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I liked the Judging Exam except for the speed round too, mainly because there are some step artists that take their time and don't usually finish a file within 3 days.
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01-5-2011, 12:01 PM | #17444 |
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random unrelated note: three of our judges (and one ex-judge) all share the same birthday today
Happy birthday to Patashu, Silvuh, and Kory (and Rebirth, but he won't see this for another year). |
01-5-2011, 12:07 PM | #17445 |
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Really??.. wow...
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01-5-2011, 12:12 PM | #17446 |
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Guys, listen. What good is it to go around saying "you shouldn't be a judge or back-up judge, or whatever it is you guys are saying?" The teamwork and cooperation on this community has gone straight out of the window guys.
I thought to keep a business or site or community going you have to have some sportsmanship with trial and error in the running as well. If the same people are constantly judging files after we saw what happened last time, there is going to be anarchy out of the ass. Having different people come and judge, I understand, may in fact be bad, but what's the difference? There was a crap ton of "subjective" drama before? Lol. How about we get some new taste of what other people in the COMMUNITY think? Personally, what DF has on their site was a pretty good, and could be bad idea. Putting the songs up in a genre and letting the people pick, with ultimately, AJ and Kayla having authority to overturn if they feel it really is wacked out. I thought that was amazing. However, here, who would be the ultimate decision makers? How about Jimerax? I'm pretty sure this guy knows what he's doing. And their could be a thread to discuss each file on what EVERYONE thinks, not just a select few? Yes this idea could turn really bad. But, if people, like Carlos (<3) don't come around and call a completely crappy file good, then we should all be fine. Just be honest and truthful. :/ Basically, even if that idea doesn't pass, which idc if it does or doesn't, cooperation and teamwork need to be fulfilled to be successful. Stop whining and present good suggestions like Byron did in his post. THAT was sportsmanship. Take a page from him. Good day people, Krunky Last edited by krunkykai22; 01-5-2011 at 12:18 PM.. |
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01-5-2011, 12:29 PM | #17448 | |
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I've always been a fan of community-driven decisions with an oversight by staff, but when the amount of submissions is relatively high as it is on FFR, it's pretty hard to maintain something like that. |
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01-5-2011, 12:32 PM | #17449 | |
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A lot of the stuff being said about judging is just a circle of the same stuff over and over again being said. At least now with the judging we don't have a single person at the end saying that a song wont go into game even after it was accepted by all judges. Do I think the system could still use some improvement? Yea, but it's getting there.
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01-5-2011, 12:40 PM | #17450 |
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01-5-2011, 12:42 PM | #17451 |
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I just thought of this idea, thought I'd throw it out there.
For new-time judges that people are questionable about, have them ghost-judge. It's almost like the Judge Exam like MrPopadop mentioned. If judging is done the same way it was last time, put the new judges into a group with experienced judges and have them judge the same files, although the "new judges" scores wouldn't necessarily count for whether or not the song got accepted or not [hence, ghosting]. If their judging looks relatively similar [i.e. finding the same mistakes, giving similar suggestions, pointing out different parts] then it'll show that they can recognize what others do. Also, it gives everyone a glimpse into what kind of judging style we have. I dunno, it was just a random idea I thought of while playing. Thought I'd mention it.
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But the veterans idea would be cool, and obviously all of the mentioned conditions would need to be considered. It'd probably be a difficult process to fully finish but if it was ever done it's be awesome.
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1+ support for Patashu's idea <3
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01-5-2011, 02:41 PM | #17456 |
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I think the problem with that krunky is that there will be very, very few files that even a huge majority agrees on it one way or another. Unless it's completely terrible. If it's borderline, or if it's even a good file, or anything, people are going to disagree with each other and it's going to turn out a bad idea. It sounds like a great idea, but I really don't think it'd workout because there would be way too much disagreeing.
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As far as the other people, they probably should showcase some of their better files and prove their understanding of rhetorics, sync, objectivity, etc. |
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01-5-2011, 03:03 PM | #17459 |
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QUALIFICATIONS: I was offered to step for In The Groove, stepped for DanceTraX and also was paid to make charts for iDance. welp.
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01-5-2011, 03:06 PM | #17460 |
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