TWG XXXIV - Page 3

mattc16 · 07-25-2006, 04:52 PM

He voted for you? I must have overlooked that, that's a fair point.

Afrobean · 07-25-2006, 05:09 PM

Yeah because an early vote on day one means a whole lot, especially from me.

**Kilgamayan** · 07-25-2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sertman

How do we know Afro isn't just trying to save his own ass after making a bunch of stupid comments?

We don't, but at the same time we don't know if you just fell for his second trap.

Tps222 · 07-25-2006, 05:54 PM

I can't tell if Afro is trying to cash in on his rep of being very aggressive in the beginning, or if he is just acting normal.

**FishFishRevolution** · 07-25-2006, 05:55 PM

Right now I agree with Kilga, I saw no harm in discussing last night's kill for the reasons already stated and becuase activity is what's going to help us the most to determine the wolves this game. Afro's early vote is a typical human move for him, and iggy seems more high-strung than wolfy to me, although maybe both.

petpro32 · 07-25-2006, 09:30 PM

I don't really see what we can do right now, with no special roles. I think that, as others have said, it'll be just a shot in the dark, so i guess that its time to start voting soon. So far there's one for Iggy. I feel that afro tried too hard to cast blame on iggy, and that he seemed a bit desperate, but that's just my inexperienced opinion. I am left undecided as of yet. Any one else have anything?

nforcer06164 · 07-25-2006, 09:39 PM

I initially thought iggy was right in that we should not discuss probable kills for the next night once the day ends, because it does spoil discussion for the next day. However, we do it all the time on AIM. That does not really cause complications next day, because it gets us thinking about "whys" and "what ifs". I'd say that's the best way to go about discussing possible night kills amongst ourselves (if necessary); just because night posting is allowed doesn't mean we need to use it. If we do discuss possible kills in the thread, next day will likely be "I told you so", followed by "...", and we don't want that.

Because Afro's "bait" is pretty much ruined now, I'd like to say that it's really not all that unusual as of late. I was a wolf the past two games, so I was extremely sensitive to votes. Afro acted like this both games and got me all "WTF" when he was human. I'm not sure exactly who or what he was trying to pull into all of this, but don't take it as a wolfy tactic.

Now, we could all be "Tass is dead lol" or "fight iggy afro fight" right now, but I think both are causing us to crash into dead ends, and the end will be a random vote. Anybody would've killed Tass, and the iggy/afro conflict looks like jumpy humans to me right now. Because we don't have much to discuss in relation to roles, there;s not much to say right now. We need to move in some sort of direction, and I think the best way to do that is to get everyone to say a good few lines to get their voices in there. I'll be sure to vote inactives midday, because this is definitely NOT the game to keep quiet in.

sertman · 07-25-2006, 09:56 PM

I'm still kind of getting the hang of things and seeing what ideas lead to what actions, this being my first TWG and all, so I probably won't be one of the ones who's going to talk up a storm and bring too many new things to the table.

petpro32 · 07-25-2006, 10:10 PM

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FoJaR · 07-25-2006, 10:17 PM

leave me out of this

**iggymatrixcounter** · 07-25-2006, 10:36 PM

CypherToorima, Wilkin, jwcgator, and Jurs still need to post.

**iggymatrixcounter** · 07-25-2006, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sertman

I'm still kind of getting the hang of things and seeing what ideas lead to what actions, this being my first TWG and all, so I probably won't be one of the ones who's going to talk up a storm and bring too many new things to the table.

Why not? We could tell if you were a new human or a new wolf depending on what you had to say.

I blasted the thread with posts my first twg, I don't see why you can't do the same.

FoJaR · 07-25-2006, 10:46 PM

people who seem wolfy to me so far: afro, iggy, fish, mattc16

petpro32 · 07-25-2006, 11:11 PM

people who seem wolfy to me: Afro, Iggy, Fish

I don't know why, but Afro's vote and Iggy's counter's seemed staged, then we had Fish coming along throwing away peoples suspicions with his advice, and it seems planned. As Talisman said, wolves have to be thinking two moves ahead, and I think that they are. again, I'm open to any counter statements or insight.

Afrobean · 07-25-2006, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sertman

I'm still kind of getting the hang of things and seeing what ideas lead to what actions, this being my first TWG and all, so I probably won't be one of the ones who's going to talk up a storm and bring too many new things to the table.

Then why even sign up. You basically just said "I'm new to the game so I won't even try and I plan on just coasting." You have to try. If you're not willing to even try, you don't even deserve to sign up.

Anyway, that tactic works well if you're a wolf, but if you're human, doing that SEVERELY HURTS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggymatrixcounter

CypherToorima, Wilkin, jwcgator, and Jurs still need to post.

Not the most active posters there... Cypher doesn't even come to FFR really anymore even.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoJaR

people who seem wolfy to me so far: afro, iggy, fish, mattc16

>:|

sertman · 07-25-2006, 11:29 PM

As I said before in a PM to tass, with the absence of a jTWG, there's no real other way for me to get used to the game. I'm still going to be active, talking, etc. but i'm not going to be writing 4 and 5 paragraph posts with my ideas. Sorry if my post was misinterpeted, but that's how i meant it... i'll post, but they won't be monstracities like what some of you guys write

CypherToorima · 07-26-2006, 01:09 AM

I've been keeping up with the thread, checking it when I can, it's just hard to post when people say what I'm thinking.

From what I've seen, Afro votes early, usually to get some talk going. Of course it's hard to say he's a wolf, or a human. It seems to have worked, so I'll give him the shadow of the doubt.

I saw Iggy mentioned that night posting was dumb. I don't think so. It's no the most usefull thing, especially on night one when absolutely nothing has happened, but later, I'm sure we'll find a use for it.

And the "talking about who's gonna get lynched tonight talk is stupid". I think it's useless. I don't really see what anyone gains from it, except for the "why's" and "what if's" nforcer mentioned, but I don't see how talking about it before hand could do us any good. nforcer also mentioned that people talk about it on AIM, but I don't really talk to many TWG players on AIM, so I don't really know.

that's all for now.

Wilkin · 07-26-2006, 03:06 AM

Let's get this game off on the right foot:

1) Night posting. Especially with cardflipping in this game, I think night posting should be used for everyone to discuss the day's lynching publically, before someone else is killed. Depending on the outcome of the cardflipping, people can discuss their views and opinions on "why someone voted him," or "why was it so close between those two people," without the pressure of someone being bandwagon'd on. I would think of it as a time for relaxing with casual conversation instead of strategizing and more speculation.

An easy analogy is to compare it to a poker tournament. Every couple of hours, the players get a break to relax and pull themselves and their concentration together before heading back into the fray. If we used the allowance of night posting like that, it could be a good foundation for the proceding discussion the next day.

2) Iggy. He's been subject to a lot of stuff the past couple games, so I'm not surprised to see him a bit edgy. The idea of him and Afro staging the arguements is an interesting one, and shouldn't be completely ruled out. I'm keeping an objective viewpoint for everyone for the time being, however, as I don't like to form speculations so early and subconsiously align myself to them.

3) Tass. As everyone else said, pretty run-of-the-mill. Another interesting idea would be to wolf Tass merely to piss him off, especially after his night post talking about his recent Night 1 deaths. It's a long shot that all of the wolves would've done it for this reason alone, but I'm sure Tass isn't the only candidate for a first kill.

More as the day progresses.

sertman · 07-26-2006, 05:05 AM

You know Tass was already wolfed, right?

petpro32 · 07-26-2006, 05:42 AM

Sertman, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have missed that. Anyway, I agree with Wilkin about keeping an objective viewpoint. No use being drawn by someone else's logic, without using any of your own. And about night posting, I think that it's necessary if the humans want to win this game. So until then, keep communicating, and getting your ideas out. We are going to need them, to determine who the wolves are. I'm out for the night.

07-25-2006, 04:52 PM	#41
mattc16 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Suffolk, England Age: 34 Posts: 524	Re: TWG XXXIV He voted for you? I must have overlooked that, that's a fair point. __________________ Click for great online poker rakeback offers!

07-25-2006, 05:09 PM	#42
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XXXIV Yeah because an early vote on day one means a whole lot, especially from me. __________________

07-25-2006, 05:54 PM	#44
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 6,167	Re: TWG XXXIV I can't tell if Afro is trying to cash in on his rep of being very aggressive in the beginning, or if he is just acting normal.

07-25-2006, 05:55 PM	#45
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 36 Posts: 7,251	Re: TWG XXXIV Right now I agree with Kilga, I saw no harm in discussing last night's kill for the reasons already stated and becuase activity is what's going to help us the most to determine the wolves this game. Afro's early vote is a typical human move for him, and iggy seems more high-strung than wolfy to me, although maybe both. __________________

07-25-2006, 09:30 PM	#46
petpro32 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 160	Re: TWG XXXIV I don't really see what we can do right now, with no special roles. I think that, as others have said, it'll be just a shot in the dark, so i guess that its time to start voting soon. So far there's one for Iggy. I feel that afro tried too hard to cast blame on iggy, and that he seemed a bit desperate, but that's just my inexperienced opinion. I am left undecided as of yet. Any one else have anything?

07-25-2006, 09:56 PM	#48
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 3,910	Re: TWG XXXIV I'm still kind of getting the hang of things and seeing what ideas lead to what actions, this being my first TWG and all, so I probably won't be one of the ones who's going to talk up a storm and bring too many new things to the table. __________________

07-25-2006, 10:10 PM	#49
petpro32 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 160	Re: TWG XXXIV Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread:2 (2 members) petpro32, FoJaR Needs more active players.

07-25-2006, 10:17 PM	#50
FoJaR The Worst Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: space ghost is dead to me Posts: 2,816	Re: TWG XXXIV leave me out of this __________________

07-25-2006, 10:36 PM	#51
iggymatrixcounter FFR Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: OH Age: 37 Posts: 1,924	Re: TWG XXXIV CypherToorima, Wilkin, jwcgator, and Jurs still need to post. __________________ lastfm PANDORA

07-25-2006, 10:46 PM	#53
FoJaR The Worst Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: space ghost is dead to me Posts: 2,816	Re: TWG XXXIV people who seem wolfy to me so far: afro, iggy, fish, mattc16 __________________

07-25-2006, 11:11 PM	#54
petpro32 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 160	Re: TWG XXXIV people who seem wolfy to me: Afro, Iggy, Fish I don't know why, but Afro's vote and Iggy's counter's seemed staged, then we had Fish coming along throwing away peoples suspicions with his advice, and it seems planned. As Talisman said, wolves have to be thinking two moves ahead, and I think that they are. again, I'm open to any counter statements or insight. __________________

07-25-2006, 11:29 PM	#56
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 3,910	Re: TWG XXXIV As I said before in a PM to tass, with the absence of a jTWG, there's no real other way for me to get used to the game. I'm still going to be active, talking, etc. but i'm not going to be writing 4 and 5 paragraph posts with my ideas. Sorry if my post was misinterpeted, but that's how i meant it... i'll post, but they won't be monstracities like what some of you guys write __________________

07-26-2006, 01:09 AM	#57
CypherToorima Boss of all bosses Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phone Home! Age: 35 Posts: 2,452	Re: TWG XXXIV I've been keeping up with the thread, checking it when I can, it's just hard to post when people say what I'm thinking. From what I've seen, Afro votes early, usually to get some talk going. Of course it's hard to say he's a wolf, or a human. It seems to have worked, so I'll give him the shadow of the doubt. I saw Iggy mentioned that night posting was dumb. I don't think so. It's no the most usefull thing, especially on night one when absolutely nothing has happened, but later, I'm sure we'll find a use for it. And the "talking about who's gonna get lynched tonight talk is stupid". I think it's useless. I don't really see what anyone gains from it, except for the "why's" and "what if's" nforcer mentioned, but I don't see how talking about it before hand could do us any good. nforcer also mentioned that people talk about it on AIM, but I don't really talk to many TWG players on AIM, so I don't really know. that's all for now. __________________ I'm a figantic gaggot

07-26-2006, 03:06 AM	#58
Wilkin FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,800	Re: TWG XXXIV Let's get this game off on the right foot: 1) Night posting. Especially with cardflipping in this game, I think night posting should be used for everyone to discuss the day's lynching publically, before someone else is killed. Depending on the outcome of the cardflipping, people can discuss their views and opinions on "why someone voted him," or "why was it so close between those two people," without the pressure of someone being bandwagon'd on. I would think of it as a time for relaxing with casual conversation instead of strategizing and more speculation. An easy analogy is to compare it to a poker tournament. Every couple of hours, the players get a break to relax and pull themselves and their concentration together before heading back into the fray. If we used the allowance of night posting like that, it could be a good foundation for the proceding discussion the next day. 2) Iggy. He's been subject to a lot of stuff the past couple games, so I'm not surprised to see him a bit edgy. The idea of him and Afro staging the arguements is an interesting one, and shouldn't be completely ruled out. I'm keeping an objective viewpoint for everyone for the time being, however, as I don't like to form speculations so early and subconsiously align myself to them. 3) Tass. As everyone else said, pretty run-of-the-mill. Another interesting idea would be to wolf Tass merely to piss him off, especially after his night post talking about his recent Night 1 deaths. It's a long shot that all of the wolves would've done it for this reason alone, but I'm sure Tass isn't the only candidate for a first kill. More as the day progresses.

07-26-2006, 05:05 AM	#59
sertman DADALADAH Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 3,910	Re: TWG XXXIV You know Tass was already wolfed, right? __________________

07-26-2006, 05:42 AM	#60
petpro32 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 160	Re: TWG XXXIV Sertman, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have missed that. Anyway, I agree with Wilkin about keeping an objective viewpoint. No use being drawn by someone else's logic, without using any of your own. And about night posting, I think that it's necessary if the humans want to win this game. So until then, keep communicating, and getting your ideas out. We are going to need them, to determine who the wolves are. I'm out for the night. __________________