Why ITG is stupid. - Page 2

fido123 · 02-22-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TD_Darkness

Wait how can this kid do 10-12 footers when the kid cant pass Sunshine Expert?

O.O good work there TD!

How can he pass 10+ footers and not Sunshine;Ex?

My avitar is so thinking that lol

taylorlee · 02-22-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Starshot

DDR=Whores their in-house artists.
ITG=Finds fresh talent and helps indi artists get their foot in the door of the music world.

And don't throw that whole "DDR song contest" crap at me.
That contest was started after ITG.

DDR introduced dancing games to the mainstream.

"And don't throw the ITG 'arrows going up the screen into 4 judgment panels' thing at me.
That was started after DDR.

taylorlee · 02-22-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fido123

O.O good work there TD!

How can he pass 10+ footers and not Sunshine;Ex?

My avitar is so thinking that lol

I can do Max 300 (Super-Max-Me-Mix) on Heavy, but I can't pass MaXX Unlimited on Heavy.
Believe it or not, jumps are quite exhausting when executed in rapid succession.
If you've ever been on a trampoline, you'd know what I'm talking about.
Speaking of jumps, what is the point of having three/four arrows at a time?
Besides being deliberately disorientating, what can they accomplish that two arrows can't?
Unless you were syncing a song that has overlapping vocals, I couldn't possibly see a need for it.
And seeing that ITG's "Charlene" prefers to use a crapload of 16th for vocal synchronization, there really isn't a need for 3+ arrows.

rel89 · 02-22-2007, 07:18 PM

You people really need to use logic.
I said I QUIT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I CANNOT PASS IT.
Jesus christ should smite you all for being blind.

**travman301** · 02-22-2007, 08:03 PM

You did not just diss Sunshine...

It one of my favorite songs on the game, and one of the first 10's I passed.
And there's no way in hell you can pass an ITG 12 if you can't pass Sunshine Expert.

And DDR syncing is not as refined as ITG. (A DDR perfect is inbtween an ITG fantasic and excellent)

AND CHARLENE is great song too. I played DDR, but it got too easy. Come back once your ready for the real thing dude.

Darkstalker_X · 02-22-2007, 08:04 PM

More like smite you for saying ITG is crap because of a part of a song which so far only you have complained about, WHY do you think ITG is like that, do you think it's supposed to be DDR? it's supposed to be something DIFFERENT, you can't blame the whole game because you think a jump doesn't fit into a part of the song.

taylorlee · 02-22-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkstalker_X

More like smite you for saying ITG is crap because of a part of a song which so far only you have complained about, WHY do you think ITG is like that, do you think it's supposed to be DDR? it's supposed to be something DIFFERENT, you can't blame the whole game because you think a jump doesn't fit into a part of the song.

If ITG is "supposed to be something DIFFERENT" why are there arrows and judgment panels.

taylorlee · 02-22-2007, 08:24 PM

All these people that say ITG is better...
Their main reason is usually, "it's harder, so it's more fun".
That's like saying that old NES games that were impossible, deriviative, and downright unfair were fun to play "just because it's more of a challenge."
To someone who has never played any type of dancing game before would probably agree that, after trying to do an elitist ITG song, it's not very fun.
Oh, and one musn't forget the large quantity of modifications that ITG allows.
While it's nice to have the option, it doesn't really add much to the game (the only mods I ever really use are speed ones) except screw you up more than a large stream of unnecessary 16th's already does.

ddr_f4n · 02-22-2007, 08:26 PM

ITG is not crappy. I find their stepcharts really fun. DDR is starting to lose their taste in good stepcharts that flow with the music now. The music in DDR is way better than ITG, but ITG has amazing stepcharts, regardless if their hard.

purebloodtexan · 02-22-2007, 08:30 PM

The arcade I go to the most often is Gattiland, and they only have an ITG machine (well, and Pump It Up, but you get my point), so I guess ITG has a special place in my heart. = 3

About the only thing I don't like about it is the life bar. You can own the song but still fail if you don't get past a certain stream or set of steps.

**Loyal2Death** · 02-22-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by purebloodtexan

The arcade I go to the most often is Gattiland, and they only have an ITG machine (well, and Pump It Up, but you get my point), so I guess ITG has a special place in my heart. = 3

About the only thing I don't like about it is the life bar. You can own the song but still fail if you don't get past a certain stream or set of steps.

News flash, DDR Life bar is 4x more unforgiving then ITG Life Bar.

As for the syncing, DDR has better stepped songs, thats always been my opinion. Though they did add a lot of jumptacular files making some songs really retarded. ITG has it right when it comes to difficulty and innovation.

~-[L2D]-~

ddranthony92 · 02-22-2007, 10:27 PM

not all ddr is easy, well fascination maxx and fascination -eternal love mix are hard and PSMO but thats about all.

**hi19hi19** · 02-22-2007, 10:31 PM

ITG stepcharts are random as hell in the hard levels. If you want a hard chart the actually follows something play HotN or like, Anubis.

sjoecool1991 · 02-23-2007, 08:26 AM

I prefer DDR, but I still love ITG.
And One False move expert is awesome, follows the music perfectly.

I HATE Dawn expert, its easy, but I dont like where those hands are placed.

nforcer06164 · 02-23-2007, 11:50 AM

rel, if you listen carefully, those runs on Sunshine do follow the music. You're listening to the vocals and not the melody.

Every song on ITG has some kind of flow to it. If you don't think so, you're not listening to the right elements.

Tibs · 02-23-2007, 12:42 PM

Unless the song is utopia in which case your ears aren't superhuman enough.

sjoecool1991 · 02-23-2007, 12:44 PM

I hate utopia, the timing at that one part is incredibly stupid.

**Neonatrias** · 02-23-2007, 12:56 PM

There are some beepy noises in the background of Utopia that allow for such a chart to be made without regret. Can't say I like it, but whatever, I just don't play Utopia.

On the Topic of Sunshine: I guess everyone has their preferences, but why the hate? ITG Expert steps rarely follow lyrical progression and focus more on instrumental melodies. The idea of most Expert charts is to take the quickest-moving melody of the music and put a step on each note. They took this to a new level in many parts of Vertex² when they mixed two melodies and stepped both at the same time.

EDIT: I almost forgot to point out. ITG was created in the DDR hiatus some time after DDR Extreme was released. At that time DDR was extremely popular and people were starting to AAA PSMO. The solution? Get some fans together and pop out something that much more difficult. Add an extra tighter timing window, up the maximum difficulties, and throw in some extra stuff too. That is what ITG was meant to be. Something fresh for people who'd already destroyed DDR.

rel89 · 02-23-2007, 04:01 PM

Well for one thing.. I can pass Sunshine. I just wish people who said I can't would stop being blind or atleast take their head's out of their asses.

And another thing.. if the bursts in Sunshine were meant to follow the vocals, then why doesn't the girl sound like Satan?

nforcer06164 · 02-23-2007, 04:44 PM

How many times do I have to say that the bursts don't follow the vocals? Listen to the melody, damnit.

02-22-2007, 07:18 PM	#24
rel89 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 35 Posts: 2,046	Re: Why ITG is stupid. You people really need to use logic. I said I QUIT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I CANNOT PASS IT. Jesus christ should smite you all for being blind.

02-22-2007, 08:03 PM	#25
travman301 #swagdog Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 2,641	Re: Why ITG is stupid. You did not just diss Sunshine... It one of my favorite songs on the game, and one of the first 10's I passed. And there's no way in hell you can pass an ITG 12 if you can't pass Sunshine Expert. And DDR syncing is not as refined as ITG. (A DDR perfect is inbtween an ITG fantasic and excellent) AND CHARLENE is great song too. I played DDR, but it got too easy. Come back once your ready for the real thing dude.

02-22-2007, 08:04 PM	#26
Darkstalker_X FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New york Age: 33 Posts: 113	Re: Why ITG is stupid. More like smite you for saying ITG is crap because of a part of a song which so far only you have complained about, WHY do you think ITG is like that, do you think it's supposed to be DDR? it's supposed to be something DIFFERENT, you can't blame the whole game because you think a jump doesn't fit into a part of the song. __________________ Be sure to check me out man, you don't wanna miss out the GOOD stuff. .

02-22-2007, 08:24 PM	#28
taylorlee FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Burninatin' the countryside Posts: 25	Re: Why ITG is stupid. All these people that say ITG is better... Their main reason is usually, "it's harder, so it's more fun". That's like saying that old NES games that were impossible, deriviative, and downright unfair were fun to play "just because it's more of a challenge." To someone who has never played any type of dancing game before would probably agree that, after trying to do an elitist ITG song, it's not very fun. Oh, and one musn't forget the large quantity of modifications that ITG allows. While it's nice to have the option, it doesn't really add much to the game (the only mods I ever really use are speed ones) except screw you up more than a large stream of unnecessary 16th's already does.

02-22-2007, 08:26 PM	#29
ddr_f4n FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in Canadaland Age: 31 Posts: 3,807	Re: Why ITG is stupid. ITG is not crappy. I find their stepcharts really fun. DDR is starting to lose their taste in good stepcharts that flow with the music now. The music in DDR is way better than ITG, but ITG has amazing stepcharts, regardless if their hard. __________________ Out Now! Older Releases: Vocaloid: Project Pad Pack 3rd Gpop's Pack of Original Pad Simfiles 東方幻想踊 (Touhou Gensouyou) ~ Illusionary Dance Fantasy & Vocaloid: Project Pad Pack 2nd

02-22-2007, 08:30 PM	#30
purebloodtexan FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In front of the speakers, banging my head until I get a nosebleed. Age: 32 Posts: 2,845	Re: Why ITG is stupid. The arcade I go to the most often is Gattiland, and they only have an ITG machine (well, and Pump It Up, but you get my point), so I guess ITG has a special place in my heart. = 3 About the only thing I don't like about it is the life bar. You can own the song but still fail if you don't get past a certain stream or set of steps. __________________

02-22-2007, 10:27 PM	#32
ddranthony92 FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester,CT Age: 31 Posts: 487	Re: Why ITG is stupid. not all ddr is easy, well fascination maxx and fascination -eternal love mix are hard and PSMO but thats about all.

02-22-2007, 10:31 PM	#33
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Why ITG is stupid. ITG stepcharts are random as hell in the hard levels. If you want a hard chart the actually follows something play HotN or like, Anubis. __________________

02-23-2007, 08:26 AM	#34
sjoecool1991 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,302	Re: Why ITG is stupid. I prefer DDR, but I still love ITG. And One False move expert is awesome, follows the music perfectly. I HATE Dawn expert, its easy, but I dont like where those hands are placed.

02-23-2007, 12:42 PM	#36
Tibs FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Age: 35 Posts: 5,235	Re: Why ITG is stupid. Unless the song is utopia in which case your ears aren't superhuman enough. __________________ Metal covers of vidya game songs

02-23-2007, 12:44 PM	#37
sjoecool1991 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,302	Re: Why ITG is stupid. I hate utopia, the timing at that one part is incredibly stupid.

02-23-2007, 12:56 PM	#38
Neonatrias MAЯISA Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Urbana, IL Age: 36 Posts: 919	Re: Why ITG is stupid. There are some beepy noises in the background of Utopia that allow for such a chart to be made without regret. Can't say I like it, but whatever, I just don't play Utopia. On the Topic of Sunshine: I guess everyone has their preferences, but why the hate? ITG Expert steps rarely follow lyrical progression and focus more on instrumental melodies. The idea of most Expert charts is to take the quickest-moving melody of the music and put a step on each note. They took this to a new level in many parts of Vertex² when they mixed two melodies and stepped both at the same time. EDIT: I almost forgot to point out. ITG was created in the DDR hiatus some time after DDR Extreme was released. At that time DDR was extremely popular and people were starting to AAA PSMO. The solution? Get some fans together and pop out something that much more difficult. Add an extra tighter timing window, up the maximum difficulties, and throw in some extra stuff too. That is what ITG was meant to be. Something fresh for people who'd already destroyed DDR. __________________ Last edited by Neonatrias; 02-23-2007 at 12:59 PM..

02-23-2007, 04:01 PM	#39
rel89 FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Age: 35 Posts: 2,046	Re: Why ITG is stupid. Well for one thing.. I can pass Sunshine. I just wish people who said I can't would stop being blind or atleast take their head's out of their asses. And another thing.. if the bursts in Sunshine were meant to follow the vocals, then why doesn't the girl sound like Satan?

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