TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[Charu]

I mean, believing mellon means disregarding all the mechanical details within the game.

Unless there's something from mellon's side of things that also has that level of mechanical detail?

[TWG Ike]

If Haku MVX self counts as eternalisk gamma shot we lynch Haku 100% today because either Mellon is telling the truth, we are in mylo, and Haku is initiate, or AA is and Haku is the only one we know for sure isn't town at this point because we don't know between AA and Mellon yet I think

[Charu]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

Your role is the Transmorpher (shoutout to litodude), which seers GRAY and returns ANTI TOWN

Well... yes, but they're neutral.

As in

They're not with town or wolves, they're standalone. I think a standalone 3rd party with no alignment means they're neither wolf or town, so whatever powers there are that relate to that...

...Might need a mod to shed some light.

[TWG Ike]

It's much more likely AA is vig but the fact that if AA is scum means we lose by mislynching Mellon cause Haku is then initiate makes me really uneasy

[Charu]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

It's much more likely AA is vig but the fact that if AA is scum means we lose by mislynching Mellon cause Haku is then initiate makes me really uneasy

I'm gonna agree with AA here. Try to follow the logic that me and him are saying. It falls flat on its face if you think about it.

[TWG Ike]

The big flaw in mellons push is that one of me and roundbox has to still be scum because there are only 3 VT left alive and if she is eternalisk, and her role works the way she says, ind is conf town, blind is conf town, but there is only 1 other VT

[TWG Ike]

Super spicy take: woof alien charu pushing for the Mellon ml

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm gonna agree with AA here. Try to follow the logic that me and him are saying. It falls flat on its face if you think about it.

Especially even more if you consider, if Haku was MVX Initiate...

...All he would've had to say... was that he's town aligned...

Like that's it.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

Super spicy take: woof alien charu pushing for the Mellon ml

Well until she comes up with something better... I rather trust mechanics than someone's own words and post that may or may not be legitimate in their supposed "softs" and whatnot.

That's all.

[TWG Ike]

Is anyone going to believe Haku is town MVX though?

Ok here is why he does it:

Roundbox is on his team. Roundbox is dead to the world real quick.

MVX self is less of a threat so he claims that and frames Mellon who we will almost certainly lynch before AA and Haku himself at this point

Only thing is scum can't know if it's gamma or another one and the shot is wasted at that point, and if it's gamma and not lynched but we get Roundbox, Mellon can shoot AA

[Charu]

Y'know, if Haku was initiate, I BET he would've said roundbox as his "savior" thing for last night phase.

No offense to Haku, this is a meta read, but I feel this a good meta read.

No proof for this of course, since I don't think MVX initiate knows they're partners... I think?

sigh

*Back to the OP I go*

[TWG Ike]

If Haku was initiated he got shot and now knows his team I think?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by TWG Jade Harley

Insider: You are informed who the members of the scum team, but they do not know your individual identity. Due to the Informant, the scum team are always alerted to the presence of an Initiate on their team at the start of the game.

Oh, the MVX does know the wolf team.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by TWG Jade Harley

Wretched Scum: You initially count as a town for the purposes of parity. You do not count towards scum teams parity with town until you are night killed. The first time you are nightkilled by the scum team, you become a full member of the scum team instead, gaining access to night chat and the factional kill.

Hmm...

[Charu]

So if Haku is scum aligned...

He's still in parity with us if the night kill on him didn't happen.

...I think that's what this power means.

[Charu]

What a funny power.

This game is weird.

[Charu]

...So, here's a new scenario.

Reason why nothing happened

Because the wolves shot the MVX scum Haku

And because Wolf Day Chat, MVX could coordinate something with the wolves to do something like this.

...

lol... this game is so cool.

[TWG Ike]

Haku is MVX self and scum Mellon shot him

OR

Haku is MVX scum and scumteam shot him to initiate him fully, meaning ind is VT Mellon is eternalisk

I think I sheep dbp and roundbox cause I don't wanna throw being overly paranoid - unless we get confirmation Haku counts for gamma's shot and then he's the best possible lynch in either scenario, and sorry Haku, but it's gotta happen

[TWG Ike]

Er dbp and blind

Roundbox is very likely woof lol

[TWG Ike]

I think it's much more likely that AA is vig Mellon is scum nobody is surprised the woofs were irrelevant lowposters